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by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:49 pm
I've never seen the Super Saiya-jin God stage as a direct follow-up Super Saiya-jin transformation building up on the previous one in a perfect sequence - Super Saiya-jin, Super Saiya-jin Dai Ni Dankai, Super Saiya-jin Dai San Dankai, Super Saiya-jin Full Power, Super Saiya-jin 2, Super Saiya-jin 3 -, but rather a different, separate and parallel event and stage achieved through a different method. The whole atmosphere in BoG lacked the seriousness, despair and drama of DB's Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr. arcs and all of DBZ's arcs, and in that setting I've always viewed the ritual to achieve the Super Saiya-jin God stage as a rather inoffensive and over-friendly way to basically have the Saiya-jin as a race be put in a different light when compared to the blood-thirsty, savage, violent characteristics they display throughout the Saiya-jin and Freeza arcs, through the introduction of the concept of "good-hearted" Saiya-jin back on Planet Vegeta, fitting the movie's environment.
I do hope they change the ritual, or have the ritual itself be replaced by another method to achieve the stage - which has the potential of turning it into a proper direct follow-up of the other Super Saiya-jin transformations building up on the previous one.
Regarding Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin, I view it as a slight improvement on the Super Saiya-jin God stage, keeping all of its advantages and adding some further Ki and the typical fighting abilities and tension typical of the Super Saiya-jin state(s), more than a mere "mastering" of the form or a Super Saiya-jin transformation building up on a Saiya-jin's state of mastery over the Super Saiya-jin God's stage, which is the explanation Goku provides in Fukkatsu no F, which, as he says it himself, is "a little complex and hard to grasp".
I'm well over the (at first) unpleasant fact that after going through the process of annexing BoG and Fukkatsu no F to the direct sequence of events in DBZ's timeline we now have to look at those movies as non-canon, as in, they never "happened". It's been thoroughly discussed before. We're basically going to have the same characters and events - Beerus, Whis, Super Saiya-jin God Goku, Freeza's resurrection, Golden Freeza, Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin Goku, Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin Vegeta - be introduced almost with no change to the setting and even picking up on some of the exact lines from BoG, as we've already seen in the first 2 episodes of DBSuper and know for a fact will happen in the next 3 episodes, with Beerus crashing a party, Goku fighting Beerus on Kaiou-sama's planet, etc., although at a different timing and in slightly different circumstances. They could have chosen not to go this road and just keep BoG and Fukkatsu no F they way they are, but I guess Toriyama realized the immense potential of Beerus, Whis and the concept of Super Saiya-jin God had and decided to make a series-long version of the movie(s), expanding on the stories, building up a proper atmosphere and introducing everyone and everything at the right pace, without the time restrictions typical of a movie, even a longer one like BoG.
It might be seen as disappointing to have two entire arcs and quite a large chunk of DBSuper's first episodes - after these first two smooth family-focused ones, as a means to reintroduce the characters in a proper setting after the Majin Buu arc - depict characters who we already know and to whom we have already been introduced in BoG and Fukkatsu no F, but even for the ones who can't get over that fact, I'm sure that before we know it, taking into account the fast pace at which they are moving forward with the story - we'll get entirely new events, characters and insanely powerful antagonists/villains be introduced after the Beerus and Freeza arcs, in the 6th Universe arc. I don't really mind the direction they took, although it might have come as a little bit of a shock when I first learned about it as the news, leaks and info on DBSuper's plot, arcs and storyline became available. I pretty much welcome anything Toriyama throws our way with open arms and the degree to which I was hyped before the series' debut, during its debut and at this point as well is pretty high, and will remain so, or even increase, particularly as we approach the 6th Universe arc.
I can't wait for them to explore on off-screen events which happened between BoG and Fukkatsu no F either, namely Goku's and Vegeta's decision to train with Whis, Freeza's 4-month training and Goku's and Vegeta's reaching the Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin stage, which I see as a slight improvement on the Super Saiya-jin God stage, adding the natural fighting violence and tension typical of the Super Saiya-jin stages to it and most likely increasing the level of power by a little bit, while keeping all of the Super Saiya-jin God's advantages (ability to sense godly Ki, massive increase in power, making others unable to sense their Ki). I'm not sure we'll actually get to see the exploration of every single one of those events which happened off-screen between BoG and Fukkatsu no F (especially Freeza's training and just how he managed to overcome such a huge gap in power between his previous forms and the levels of Ki Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Beerus and Whis have by the time of Fukkatsu no F), but it gets one hyped to anticipate just how Goku (and Vegeta) will reach their SSJG and SSJGSSJ stages, which will obviously need to be shown, fully explored and expanded upon.
What I am having trouble with is the fact that I've never liked the way DBZ ended, with those last 3 episodes, the last Tenkaichi Budokai and the introduction of Uub. On one hand, we get 10 years to explore, but whatever happens during the Beerus, Freeza and 6th Universe arcs will eventually and inevitably lead to that, and it just doesn't seem that by the time of the ending of DBZ they've gone through all of that. Maybe Toriyama will just go for another retcon, just like he did with BoG and Fukkatsu no F, and will have that last Tenkaichi Budokai and the introduction of Uub become non-canon.
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