SSJ2 Goku dimensional buster?

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SSJ2 Goku dimensional buster?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:35 am

In the recent DB Super episode Goku mentioned around the lines that as a SSJ2, he could punch so hard that it breaks a dimension or something like that. If Herms or anyone could verify if this is a mistranslation, that'd be great. If it isn't, do you think it's true?

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Post by EmmaWinters » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:37 am

The original line has Goku telling Beerus "it's like you're in a whole other dimension".
This phrase is frequently used in the original Japanese to describe someone very powerful. Freeza, for example.

Dragon Team — the only release group worth watching — correctly translated this phrase into something a bit clearer:
Punches from a Super Saiyan 2 ain't even scratchin' you... You really are somethin'. You're on a whole different level.
The release group you're watching doesn't speak a word of Japanese; their translation is a translation of a Spanish translation, and both are done as quickly as possible, accuracy be damned (within ~2-6 hours of airing).
OWmyDragonBallz wrote:If Herms or anyone could verify if this is a mistranslation, that'd be great.
This (along with plenty of other mistranslations) are covered in his fact checker.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:41 am

In the future, it's probably best to consult this thread before making a topic about a questionable statement in Super's "translations". This is the very reason it exists.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:03 am

When I first read the bad translation and thought it was accurate, I thought it was a taunt by Goku to try to get Beerus to stand still so he could hit him.

In other words, something along the lines of "If you would stop dodging, I'd hit you so hard you'd fly to another dimension!" just to try to pique his curiosity so he'd let himself be hit.
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Re: SSJ2 Goku dimensional buster?

Post by Hitiro » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:42 pm

I questioned the translation as soon as it said that SSJ Goku "wouldn't be able to beat"/"would struggle against" Freeza.

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Post by Tectorman » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:07 am

Hitiro wrote:I questioned the translation as soon as it said that SSJ Goku "wouldn't be able to beat"/"would struggle against" Freeza.
Do we know what the actual translation of this is supposed to be?

I read one explanation of this line saying that the only reason Beerus uses Frieza as a comparison for Goku's SSJ and calls it a struggle is because Frieza is the only warrior at that level that Beerus would even be aware of. But now I'm wondering if that explanation is even necessary.
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Re: SSJ2 Goku dimensional buster?

Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:12 am

Tectorman wrote:
Hitiro wrote:I questioned the translation as soon as it said that SSJ Goku "wouldn't be able to beat"/"would struggle against" Freeza.
Do we know what the actual translation of this is supposed to be?
It's covered in the thread linked above.
Herms wrote:Context: After Super Saiyan Goku has fought Beerus for a little bit
Beerus: “You’re pretty good. I can see how you managed to defeat Freeza. But if this is all you’ve got, defeating Freeza would probably be the best you’re capable of.”
Goku: “Oh, really…? See for yourself if that’s all I’m capable of.”
Significance: Some fansubbers mistranslated this to Beerus saying Super Saiyan Goku would have a hard time defeating Freeza, or even that Super Saiyan Goku couldn’t defeat Freeza! Of course, in actual fact Super Saiyan Goku did have a bit of a hard time defeating Freeza (if only because of Freeza being a cheap jerk), but he’s supposed to have grown a lot stronger since then. Arguably even the properly translated line doesn’t properly reflect just how much stronger Super Saiyan Goku should be than Freeza, but it’s not the same as Beerus explicitly saying Goku would struggle against Freeza and/or lose. We’ve also seen that Beerus doesn’t seem aware of any non-god stronger than Freeza, which may factor in here. Anyway, regardless of what Beerus says, Goku doesn’t seem to agree that Beerus has the full measure of his power.
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