Why is 17 still alive?

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Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:00 pm

Yamcha wished for everyone killed by Cell and the androids to be revived. But it was shown that 18 was still alive inside of Cell when Gohan made him throw her up, so the same must be true of 17. That means that Cell didn't kill 17, Gohan did. So 17 shouldn't have been brought back with the wish.
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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by TheatreStyleKai » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:13 pm

Shenlong mixed up No. 17 with No. 16, with hilarious results.

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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Skar » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:15 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Yamcha wished for everyone killed by Cell and the androids to be revived. But it was shown that 18 was still alive inside of Cell when Gohan made him throw her up, so the same must be true of 17. That means that Cell didn't kill 17, Gohan did. So 17 shouldn't have been brought back with the wish.
Didn't #17 die when Cell self-destructed on King Kai's planet? I always assumed he died there and then wished back after the Cell Games.

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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:20 pm

Skar wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Yamcha wished for everyone killed by Cell and the androids to be revived. But it was shown that 18 was still alive inside of Cell when Gohan made him throw her up, so the same must be true of 17. That means that Cell didn't kill 17, Gohan did. So 17 shouldn't have been brought back with the wish.
Didn't #17 die when Cell self-destructed on King Kai's planet? I always assumed he died there and then wished back after the Cell Games.
Oh, good point, so then Cell would have killed him.
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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by precita » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:07 pm

Yes, 17 died when Cell blew himself up

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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:39 pm

#17 died when Cell blew himself up. Cell found away to become his Perfect Form again after he blew himself up.
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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Hot Rod » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:12 pm

Actually that was a combination of both Zenkai and regeneration. That is why he was able to return into his Perfect Form (with Zenkai providing his Super Saiyan 2) without the need to absorb him again.

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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Cetra » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:10 am

Basically they are dead already when converted to energy - unless their essence is still in Cell and can be re-converted as seen with 18. So not alive in a normal way but ultimately gone when Cell is gone.
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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by nickzambuto » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:39 am

Unlike 16, who was 100% robot and not technically a living being, 17 was a cyborg. That makes him a human, so the wish probably brought him back.

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Re: Why is 17 still alive?

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:30 am

nickzambuto wrote:Unlike 16, who was 100% robot and not technically a living being, 17 was a cyborg. That makes him a human, so the wish probably brought him back.
I realize the answer is "Because GT/movies", but why do we see 19 in the Super 17 saga and Misokatsun and Ebifurya in Fusion Reborn, if they're entirely mechanical too?
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