Shueisha's 'Dragon Ball' Room, New Department Focused on Dragon Ball
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Re: Shueisha's 'Dragon Ball' Room, New Department Focused on Dragon Ball
Very slim chance of happening, but I would love to see more Great Saiyaman Stuff. That was probably some of my favorite stuff in the series.
Also, now that I think about it I kind of like the idea of a New Dragonball for a younger generation. If this helps towards that, then here is hoping all goes well.
Also, now that I think about it I kind of like the idea of a New Dragonball for a younger generation. If this helps towards that, then here is hoping all goes well.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
This was bound to happen sooner or later, you have an elderly author who in all honestly gets burnt out very easily these days and rightfully so. I think Shueishia will work closely with Toei and pump out tons of new manga and anime to go alongside it. This is kind of been going on all along but we now have confirmation on it, Toriyama got suggestions and you had Toei filling in the gaps with the mini arcs, and you have tons of different artist doing tons of manga spin offs. It's just a confirmation of what we more or less already knew. Having said that I don't see them ending Super, but coming up with ideas for the series and getting Toriyama's green light for the suggestion. That's more or less what It's been slowly turned into if it hasn't been that way all along. I'm just glad Dragon Ball isn't dying anytime soon, I'd like to think judging by the filler arcs that Toei and Shueishia has a good idea of what Toriyama would do or wouldn't do.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Because of this:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why do you think that? There's a new studio that, in itself, doesn't have much to do with Toriyama. There's no reason he should stop sending outlines.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Toriyama will no longer write story outlines for Super now?Sounds like with what happened with Star Wars, George Lucas was writing the main canon stories (Episodes I-VI, The Clone Wars), but now the Story Group is responsible for the canon stories. Here, Toriyama seems to be replaced with the "Dragon Ball Room".The department is working to provide new ideas for content for Dragon Ball, and to optimize and expand the brand. Iyoku commented that the department is "only thinking about Dragon Ball."
Dragon Ball creator Toriyama commented on the new department, saying that the team was one he could put his trust in. He joked, "It's really great that I don't have to do anything now."
I guess we'll have to wait & see this "Dragon Ball Room's" exact role.ArchedThunder wrote:Toriyama was just joking because there is a whole department of Shueisha focused on Dragon Ball. Depending on the staff though they might help him out with designing characters though, as well as fleshing out his ideas.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Toriyama will no longer write story outlines for Super now?
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My crazy guess as to how things will go is that that come December the next arc of the anime will be announced with a message from Toriyama confirming that it's based on an outline of his and it will still take place before the end of Z. Toyotaro will finish up the Future Trunks arc in a few more months and then move to doing a post end of Z weekly manga in Weekly Jump that is based on outlines from Toriyama and fleshed out by himself and the others at Dragon Ball Room. The anime of Super will continue for about a year while the sequel manga is running in Jump, then when Toei has enough of a buffer to work off of they will create an anime based on the new manga and tie the ending of the Super anime into the start of the new series. Then years from now Toriyama will step down, but not in the immediate future, making Dragon Ball Room completely in charge of the story of Dragon Ball going forward.
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You can draw a comparison, but Toriyama isn't Lucas, and this wasn't announced as a replacement for him. It very well could be that one of these days, but replacing him now would be idiotic. His name recognition is a large part of what jump-started the Dragon Ball Renaissance to begin with, they'll hold on to him as long as possible.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Because of this:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why do you think that? There's a new studio that, in itself, doesn't have much to do with Toriyama. There's no reason he should stop sending outlines.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Toriyama will no longer write story outlines for Super now?Sounds like with what happened with Star Wars, George Lucas was writing the main canon stories (Episodes I-VI, The Clone Wars), but now the Story Group is responsible for the canon stories. Here, Toriyama seems to be replaced with the "Dragon Ball Room".The department is working to provide new ideas for content for Dragon Ball, and to optimize and expand the brand. Iyoku commented that the department is "only thinking about Dragon Ball."
Dragon Ball creator Toriyama commented on the new department, saying that the team was one he could put his trust in. He joked, "It's really great that I don't have to do anything now."
I guess we'll have to wait & see this "Dragon Ball Room's" exact role.ArchedThunder wrote:Toriyama was just joking because there is a whole department of Shueisha focused on Dragon Ball. Depending on the staff though they might help him out with designing characters though, as well as fleshing out his ideas.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Toriyama will no longer write story outlines for Super now?
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I really think Toyotaro could pull off a weekly run with a few assistants! Hell, bring in Young Jijii to help.ArchedThunder wrote:My crazy guess as to how things will go is that that come December the next arc of the anime will be announced with a message from Toriyama confirming that it's based on an outline of his and it will still take place before the end of Z. Toyotaro will finish up the Future Trunks arc in a few more months and then move to doing a post end of Z weekly manga in Weekly Jump that is based on outlines from Toriyama and fleshed out by himself and the others at Dragon Ball Room. The anime of Super will continue for about a year while the sequel manga is running in Jump, then when Toei has enough of a buffer to work off of they will create an anime based on the new manga and tie the ending of the Super anime into the start of the new series. Then years from now Toriyama will step down, but not in the immediate future, making Dragon Ball Room completely in charge of the story of Dragon Ball going forward.
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That would be my wet dream. Either way, I want more manga, they're my favorite version of DB.Xeztin wrote:I really think Toyotaro could pull off a weekly run with a few assistants! Hell, bring in Young Jijii to help.ArchedThunder wrote:My crazy guess as to how things will go is that that come December the next arc of the anime will be announced with a message from Toriyama confirming that it's based on an outline of his and it will still take place before the end of Z. Toyotaro will finish up the Future Trunks arc in a few more months and then move to doing a post end of Z weekly manga in Weekly Jump that is based on outlines from Toriyama and fleshed out by himself and the others at Dragon Ball Room. The anime of Super will continue for about a year while the sequel manga is running in Jump, then when Toei has enough of a buffer to work off of they will create an anime based on the new manga and tie the ending of the Super anime into the start of the new series. Then years from now Toriyama will step down, but not in the immediate future, making Dragon Ball Room completely in charge of the story of Dragon Ball going forward.
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He certainly couldn't pull off any worse than one of Kishimoto's former assistants has done with the Boruto manga, at least art-style wise, from what I've seen.Xeztin wrote:I really think Toyotaro could pull off a weekly run with a few assistants! Hell, bring in Young Jijii to help.
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It is not like they do not have any people talented enough. They have Yamamuro-san, Nakatsuru-san, Toyble-san, Oiishi-san, ... the possibilities are endless.Gyt Kaliba wrote:He certainly couldn't pull off any worse than one of Kishimoto's former assistants has done with the Boruto manga, at least art-style wise, from what I've seen.Xeztin wrote:I really think Toyotaro could pull off a weekly run with a few assistants! Hell, bring in Young Jijii to help.
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Young Jijii's doing about 70-80 pages a month, him and Toyotaro on a weekly manga would be insane! I don't think Young Jijii wants to work for the company though, I'm sure by now he's at least been looked up by them if Toyble/Toyotaro got the job within 5 volumes to where as Young Jijii has over 20 out.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:That would be my wet dream. Either way, I want more manga, they're my favorite version of DB.Xeztin wrote:I really think Toyotaro could pull off a weekly run with a few assistants! Hell, bring in Young Jijii to help.ArchedThunder wrote:My crazy guess as to how things will go is that that come December the next arc of the anime will be announced with a message from Toriyama confirming that it's based on an outline of his and it will still take place before the end of Z. Toyotaro will finish up the Future Trunks arc in a few more months and then move to doing a post end of Z weekly manga in Weekly Jump that is based on outlines from Toriyama and fleshed out by himself and the others at Dragon Ball Room. The anime of Super will continue for about a year while the sequel manga is running in Jump, then when Toei has enough of a buffer to work off of they will create an anime based on the new manga and tie the ending of the Super anime into the start of the new series. Then years from now Toriyama will step down, but not in the immediate future, making Dragon Ball Room completely in charge of the story of Dragon Ball going forward.
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Nothing has been said about Super and this thing was set up and I presumme running since June so if Toriyama was leaving the creative process of Super we'd have gotten some announcement by now especially since we're nearing the end of the current arc (it seems).DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, Toriyama will no longer write story outlines for Super now?
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In the event that Pan were to ever become the main character of a Dragon Ball series, I agree with you that she can be what you described, without being a female Goku.Chuquita wrote:I liked Pan's EoZ personality. She can be a cheerful, battle hungry character without being a female Gokû. If they replace Gokû, I'd pick her to be it.
I still don't want Gokû replaced at all though. ^^;
As a matter of fact, I feel like a series focusing on Pan would be great if she had a personality similar to that of Sakura Kasugano from Street Fighter.
Very outgoing and respectful in personality, as she is most of the time happy, energetic, cheerful, positive, hard-working and focused in combat. She has a noble spirit and a very determined attitude, either in studies or in martial arts training. She sees Goku as an idol and teacher, rather than an opponent, since she always watches him fight and mirrors herself on his philosophies in battle.
In my eyes, Pan would probably become so much more likable than her GT counterpart if she had a personality like this.
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Let's see the currect state of the franchise for a moment:
- Current on-going anime series: Dragon Ball Super
Current on-going manga series:- Dragon Ball Super
Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission
Dragon Ball Discross: Jinryoku God Max!!
Dragon Ball Fusions: The Manga
Dragon Ball SD
Dragon Ball GT Anime Comic
Latest console video-game: Dragon Ball XenoVerse 2
Latest handled video-game: Dragon Ball Fusions
Latest theatrical movie: Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection "F" - Dragon Ball Super
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I'm mostly in agreement with this sentiment, but I also have positive thoughts about it, too. I think a big new spin-off series (not based on a video game or anything like that) would be majorly fascinating.Cipher wrote:I had a weird negative visceral reaction to this. Like Dragon Ball's taken the next step into full-on zombie franchise mode. It was only a matter of time until that happened, ever since it proved itself so renewable, but
... eugh. I don't like it.
Dream job.The department is working to provide new ideas for content for Dragon Ball, and to optimize and expand the brand. Iyoku commented that the department is "only thinking about Dragon Ball."
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Unfortunately we haven't been getting much quality DragonBall content since at least 2009. Of course every franchise gets milked, the problem is where they decided to take the story and the characters. I still think that Vegeta having a little brother makes no sense whatsoever, that DragonBall Minus was a huge piece of shit and a terrible way to introduce Goku's mother, and that Freeza's revival and his 4 months of training was awful fan-fiction level writing.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:So long as we get quality product it should be fine.A franchise is meant to be milked.Cipher wrote:I had a weird negative visceral reaction to this. Like Dragon Ball's taken the next step into full-on zombie franchise mode. It was only a matter of time until that happened, ever since it proved itself so renewable, but
... eugh. I don't like it.
There were some good ideas, I actually liked Beerus and Whis. However making Beerus responsible for almost everything that ever happened in DragonBall was NOT a good idea. Turning ChiChi back into a crazy soccer mom in DragonBall Super, after she mellowed out in the Buu Saga, was NOT a good idea. And quite frankly introducing a new enemy who just happens to be immortal is NOT a good idea, it's one of the lamest cliches in fiction.
Akira Toriyama and the scriptwriters at Toei Animation need better editors.
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I'm currently idling in "wait-and-see" mode. Maybe it'll bring out some good content.Cipher wrote:I had a weird negative visceral reaction to this. Like Dragon Ball's taken the next step into full-on zombie franchise mode. It was only a matter of time until that happened, ever since it proved itself so renewable, but
... eugh. I don't like it.
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I would really love to see Muten Roshi specials, with him becoming a martial artist, pervy antics, rivalry with the Crane Hermit, climbing Karin Tower, fighting off Piccolo Daimao, and becoming the hermit that he is in Dragon Ball. It would be so good (if done right).
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Make a Freeza prequel. With Cooler, Cold and all that is good. And show me when Freeza got bitchslapped by Beerus for being a cocky little shrimp.
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I'd like to see their involvement with Beerus, and perhaps some female Frost Demons.Cetra wrote:Make a Freeza prequel. With Cooler, Cold and all that is good.
(EDIT: You sly post editor...)
Speaking of Beerus, some insight on how he became the God of Destruction and met Whis would be cool.
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Pretty sure Whis bought Beerus in some intergalactic pet shop.Anime Kitten wrote:I'd like to see their involvement with Beerus, and perhaps some female Frost Demons.Cetra wrote:Make a Freeza prequel. With Cooler, Cold and all that is good.
Speaking of Beerus, some insight on how he became the God of Destruction and met Whis would be cool.
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I'm very worried for how this will pan out, since I have enjoyed very little of the new Dragon Ball content aside from Battle of Gods. I think there is great opportunity to expand on characters' backstories and such, but I have very little faith in the writers unless its Toyotaro since I think his Super manga is good enough.
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