"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[DBZ_Lee]

Wow. Sean is on another level right now compared to some of the other overseas Goku VAs.
That was so amazing, and I can't wait to see how he handles ultra instinct.

[Noah]

Wow. Sean is on another level right now compared to some of the other overseas Goku VAs.

That's your opinion only as many still think Castañeda and Bezerra are ahead of him.

[DBZ_Lee]

Wow. Sean is on another level right now compared to some of the other overseas Goku VAs.

That's your opinion only as many still think Castañeda and Bezerra are ahead of him.

That's their opinion, and the above is mine.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The Kaioken Blue time tens segment was everything I wanted out Schemmel and Mercer and even more.

Great stuff.

Mercer makes Hit so much more cooler than the JPN counterpart, imo.

[Doctor.]

Sean Schemmel's screams basically sound all the same at this point.

[Scsigs]

These are provisional I think as #41 has been updated to ""Come Forth, Divine Dragon and Grant My Wish, Peas and Carrots!"" now.

Really? Peas and Carrots? Does "Pretty Peas" sound too inappropriate? I mean that excuse doesn't really make much sense anyways due to how heavily adulterated this dub is.

What do you mean by " how heavily adulterated this dub is"?

The definition of "adulterate" is "render (something) poorer in quality by adding another substance, typically an inferior one."
Coming off of this, it seems this person REALLY doesn't like the dub, or at least hates a lot of aspects about it, despite that it's even more accurate than the official subtitles, as some have apparently said, just not exactly scripted as the subbed would be to help make the dub feel more natural, which is a great way to do a dub. Plus, the acting is really great.

Sean Schemmel's screams basically sound all the same at this point.

How? Back in the Z days, I'd say you'd be accurate, but nowadays, he's gotten to the point where a lot of his screams are each distinct.
Consider Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTFQAddGc_M to Super Saiyan 3: https://youtu.be/X_FMibSdpIU?t=46s. They both sound distinct & awesome at the same time.

[ConfusedPhantom]

His voice kind of died midway. heh heh But he did it quite nicely. Part of me wishes they got an old guy to voice him, but McCree Hit works.

[HeroR]

Really? Peas and Carrots? Does "Pretty Peas" sound too inappropriate? I mean that excuse doesn't really make much sense anyways due to how heavily adulterated this dub is.

What do you mean by " how heavily adulterated this dub is"?

The definition of "adulterate" is "render (something) poorer in quality by adding another substance, typically an inferior one."
Coming off of this, it seems this person REALLY doesn't like the dub, or at least hates a lot of aspects about it, despite that it's even more accurate than the official subtitles, as some have apparently said, just not exactly scripted as the subbed would be to help make the dub feel more natural, which is a great way to do a dub. Plus, the acting is really great.

Sean Schemmel's screams basically sound all the same at this point.

How? Back in the Z days, I'd say you'd be accurate, but nowadays, he's gotten to the point where a lot of his screams are each distinct.
Consider Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTFQAddGc_M to Super Saiyan 3: https://youtu.be/X_FMibSdpIU?t=46s. They both sound distinct & awesome at the same time.

I always felt Super Saiyan 3 Kai’s scream was inferior to what he did in Z, which is one of my favorite Sean’s screams. That and that scream he did in the Battle of Gods movie after going Super Saiyan against Beerus after he lost Super Saiyan God.

[Doctor.]

I agree that Z's SS3 was more impressive; Fusion Reborn's too.

[Draconic]

I don't even know why I bother to check these anymore.. Everyone sounded like gargling marbles in that scene, even Mercer's amazing Hit. It might just be the clip I watched, but I can't say I was impressed in the least.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

What do you mean by " how heavily adulterated this dub is"?

The definition of "adulterate" is "render (something) poorer in quality by adding another substance, typically an inferior one."
Coming off of this, it seems this person REALLY doesn't like the dub, or at least hates a lot of aspects about it, despite that it's even more accurate than the official subtitles, as some have apparently said, just not exactly scripted as the subbed would be to help make the dub feel more natural, which is a great way to do a dub. Plus, the acting is really great.

Sean Schemmel's screams basically sound all the same at this point.

How? Back in the Z days, I'd say you'd be accurate, but nowadays, he's gotten to the point where a lot of his screams are each distinct.
Consider Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTFQAddGc_M to Super Saiyan 3: https://youtu.be/X_FMibSdpIU?t=46s. They both sound distinct & awesome at the same time.

I always felt Super Saiyan 3 Kai’s scream was inferior to what he did in Z, which is one of my favorite Sean’s screams. That and that scream he did in the Battle of Gods movie after going Super Saiyan against Beerus after he lost Super Saiyan God.

His SS3 Kai was miles better in my opinion, it was so much nuanced than Z, Z was just him yelling for couple of mins whereas as in Kai you could actually feel pain in the screaming. The scream had weight.

[HeroR]

The definition of "adulterate" is "render (something) poorer in quality by adding another substance, typically an inferior one."
Coming off of this, it seems this person REALLY doesn't like the dub, or at least hates a lot of aspects about it, despite that it's even more accurate than the official subtitles, as some have apparently said, just not exactly scripted as the subbed would be to help make the dub feel more natural, which is a great way to do a dub. Plus, the acting is really great.


How? Back in the Z days, I'd say you'd be accurate, but nowadays, he's gotten to the point where a lot of his screams are each distinct.
Consider Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTFQAddGc_M to Super Saiyan 3: https://youtu.be/X_FMibSdpIU?t=46s. They both sound distinct & awesome at the same time.

I always felt Super Saiyan 3 Kai’s scream was inferior to what he did in Z, which is one of my favorite Sean’s screams. That and that scream he did in the Battle of Gods movie after going Super Saiyan against Beerus after he lost Super Saiyan God.

His SS3 Kai was miles better in my opinion, it was so much nuanced than Z, Z was just him yelling for couple of mins whereas as in Kai you could actually feel pain in the screaming. The scream had weight.

Hmmm. I don’t think it was supposed to be ‘painful’. And he did more than yell in Z since you felt the power of the form through the scream along with the music and everyone’s reactions. Kai felt like a wet fart in comparison. I just didn’t like it even half as much.

[Scsigs]

I agree that Z's SS3 was more impressive; Fusion Reborn's too.

Well, to be fair, Sean's always had a powerful voice for screaming, so I'd get why you'd say that. However, when I hear this clip immediately afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F20IeFnG8w, while it's good, I feel he was still just acting while he was screaming. Kai's scream has the benefit of Sean's added acting experience. There's an added guttural growl to his later screams that his earlier ones just didn't have.
Fusion Reborn's is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQeueJnzSo, but that dub was recorded sometime several years later than Z, wasn't it? So, even then, Sean's voice was better in that film's dub than Z & already had more weight to it.
Even when I saw the episode where Goku & Vegeta lure Buu to the world of the Kais with Z's dub, I never really got that the screams of either of them are anything more than a performance. In Kai onwards, his screams actually feel threatening due to Schemmel being a better voice actor, with the screams to back up his performance.

I always felt Super Saiyan 3 Kai’s scream was inferior to what he did in Z, which is one of my favorite Sean’s screams. That and that scream he did in the Battle of Gods movie after going Super Saiyan against Beerus after he lost Super Saiyan God.

Was the scream inferior or superior to Z's, because I always loved it, but I don't think the 2 are even comparable, https://youtu.be/87BuPWfUgQI?t=1m10s, because that's more of a quick scream with an exclamation of a statement, when Z, Kai, & Super are examples of more elongated screams.

[HeroR]

I agree that Z's SS3 was more impressive; Fusion Reborn's too.

Well, to be fair, Sean's always had a powerful voice for screaming, so I'd get why you'd say that. However, when I hear this clip immediately afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F20IeFnG8w, while it's good, I feel he was still just acting while he was screaming. Kai's scream has the benefit of Sean's added acting experience. There's an added guttural growl to his later screams that his earlier ones just didn't have.
Fusion Reborn's is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQeueJnzSo, but that dub was recorded sometime several years later than Z, wasn't it? So, even then, Sean's voice was better in that film's dub than Z & already had more weight to it.
Even when I saw the episode where Goku & Vegeta lure Buu to the world of the Kais with Z's dub, I never really got that the screams of either of them are anything more than a performance. In Kai onwards, his screams actually feel threatening due to Schemmel being a better voice actor, with the screams to back up his performance.

I always felt Super Saiyan 3 Kai’s scream was inferior to what he did in Z, which is one of my favorite Sean’s screams. That and that scream he did in the Battle of Gods movie after going Super Saiyan against Beerus after he lost Super Saiyan God.

Was the scream inferior or superior to Z's, because I always loved it, but I don't think the 2 are even comparable, https://youtu.be/87BuPWfUgQI?t=1m10s, because that's more of a quick scream with an exclamation of a statement, when Z, Kai, & Super are examples of more elongated screams.

I was just saying that Battle of Gods and Z Super Saiyan 3 are my favorite Sean’s screams, not making a comparison.

I also strongly disagree with the ‘still just acting while he was screaming‘. I truly felt the power of Super Saiyan 3 that I just don’t I’m in the Kai dub and it isn’t all me looking into the past since Kai has some good Sean screams. That just wasn’t one of them for me. Some times, you don’t need to growl.

[Scsigs]

I was just saying that Battle of Gods and Z Super Saiyan 3 are my favorite Sean’s screams, not making a comparison.

I also strongly disagree with the ‘still just acting while he was screaming‘. I truly felt the power of Super Saiyan 3 that I just don’t in the Kai dub and it isn’t all me looking into the past since Kai has some good Sean screams. That just wasn’t one of them for me. Some times, you don’t need to growl.

In Z, it just felt like he was screaming into a mic for me. It's not bad, there's just not a lot of emotion in it, like a lot of Schemmel's acting in Z. It's serviceable, but isn't nearly as good as his later performances. I'm not even saying the growl's necessary, but it's just what's been added & I think it makes his growls better. Even if his screams were just like the one from Fusion Reborn, I'd still like them better than Z, but that's just how his screams have evolved over time.
Let me compare to Lanipator's Vegeta. He doesn't have nearly as much of a guttural growl as Schemmel, but his screams are at a point where he doesn't need them. The scene where Vegeta screams after realizing Ghan took the Dragon Ball in Abridged is so great, especially the later 'Kai Episode 2' take. You can actually feel Vegeta go insane at that point & that's the kind of performance I'm talking about. Even MasakoX can scream pretty well, which he's said isn't easy for him, though I'd say he still needs a bit of experience before it'd be as good as I think he could be with that.

[HeroR]

I was just saying that Battle of Gods and Z Super Saiyan 3 are my favorite Sean’s screams, not making a comparison.

I also strongly disagree with the ‘still just acting while he was screaming‘. I truly felt the power of Super Saiyan 3 that I just don’t in the Kai dub and it isn’t all me looking into the past since Kai has some good Sean screams. That just wasn’t one of them for me. Some times, you don’t need to growl.

In Z, it just felt like he was screaming into a mic for me. It's not bad, there's just not a lot of emotion in it, like a lot of Schemmel's acting in Z. It's serviceable, but isn't nearly as good as his later performances. I'm not even saying the growl's necessary, but it's just what's been added & I think it makes his growls better. Even if his screams were just like the one from Fusion Reborn, I'd still like them better than Z, but that's just how his screams have evolved over time.
Let me compare to Lanipator's Vegeta. He doesn't have nearly as much of a guttural growl as Schemmel, but his screams are at a point where he doesn't need them. The scene where Vegeta screams after realizing Ghan took the Dragon Ball in Abridged is so great, especially the later 'Kai Episode 2' take. You can actually feel Vegeta go insane at that point & that's the kind of performance I'm talking about. Even MasakoX can scream pretty well, which he's said isn't easy for him, though I'd say he still needs a bit of experience before it'd be as good as I think he could be with that.

It never sounded he was just screaming into the mic to me except for the early parts of Z.

MasakoX‘s Goku screams kinda sucks imo. But I feel no one from TFS screams that well. It's like a bad dub most of the time.

[Scsigs]

It never sounded he was just screaming into the mic to me except for the early parts of Z.

MasakoX‘s Goku screams kinda sucks imo. But I feel no one from TFS screams that well. It's like a bad dub most of the time.

I...I just can't even with that second one. As for the first, whatever.

[DragonBallKing]

The original SSJ3 scream always sounded looped to me, while the Kai one sounds legit.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Sean really gave those screams his all, definitely can't wait for the Ultra Instinct stuff .

The original SSJ3 scream always sounded looped to me, while the Kai one sounds legit.

The original SSJ3 scream was fine, but this one has more layers to it, an improvement without question.

[DragonBallKing]

Sean really gave those screams his all, definitely can't wait for the Ultra Instinct stuff .

The original SSJ3 scream always sounded looped to me, while the Kai one sounds legit.

The original SSJ3 scream was fine, but this one has more layers to it, an improvement without question.

Definitely, both SSJ3 transformations sound good but I don't believe that the first one was done in a single take with no change in pitch at all.

Never the less I was very impressed by the Blue Kaioken scene, even though I knew Sean would kill it because he's been on fire since Kai. Truth be told I haven't really watched much of Supers dub since the beginning of the ROF arc.

I don't know If this is a common problem but It still feels wierd switching between Sean and Nozawa even though I like both.