The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

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The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Bullza » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:54 pm

I'm seeing a lot of people who think it's canon and then people who think it's filler. Is there a definite answer to this?

Toyotaro said this "The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I’ll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them. "

The next chapter in December may be the final chapter of the Future Trunks arc. By near future does that mean he'll be in front by January? February? I can't see the anime having filler from now up to February.

As for the anime, the next 3 episodes definitely seem like filler. The episode "Goku dies!", with that new Key Art they did for it, the returning RoF costume, them bringing back a fairly major character like Hit whose been ordered to track him down and kill him...that does not seem like filler to me.

However it didn't mention Toriyama this time around did it? Which is why I'm unsure.

By the time that episode comes out the next and possibly last chapter of the Future Trunks saga will be out. It'd mean the chapter after that in January could start to cover this Hit arc and as the manga moves at a quicker pace then I guess it could pull a ahead. So i could see it working like that.

Either that or there's gonna be quite a bit of filler.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Xeztin » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:22 am

I think it's filler and that Champa hired Hit to do it, it'll be an excuse to see Hit again at least! The reason I say it's filler is because they even have Champa coming back I believe, and if you insert a God of Destruction into filler why not Hit?

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:18 am

It is true that Champa is going to be in one so I don't suppose Hit couldn't be in the filler but Champa's episode is just a baseball one, Hit's sounds pretty serious.

As for Champa hiring Hit to kill Goku, I've seen people mention that but it doesn't seem that likely to me. Why would Champa want to kill Goku? Why couldn't he do it himself? Why would Hit accept such a thing from a guy who'd previously threatened to kill him? Beerus was nice enough to use his wish to revive Earth for him so that's not a nice way of saying thank you :lol: .

If it actually is a canon arc then I would guess it would be someone else to retain the mystery than the Future Trunks arc had. Maybe someone from the Universe 6 Earth wants him dead.

It all sounds too interesting to be an idea from Toei.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by OLKv3 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:57 am

If it doesn't have any Toriyama statements or art, it's anime only.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by precita » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:00 am

Does it really matter in Super what's "canon?" Every episode is canon.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Chuquita » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:05 am

They reused artwork from the Champa arc and didn't promote it as a brand new arc so my guess is filler.

(I would like to see that Champa arc dougi of Gokû's make a return though).
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Hit!! » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:19 am

Maybe Zamasu never actually died after all and he paid Hit to kill Goku?? Maybe he's forming an army of mortals from the multiverse to attack Goku and Co?? Maybe Zamasu is becoming The Joker of DB.

Or maybe I'm just having wet dreams..

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by MaxZ » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:12 am

sounds like a real arc to me

I don't think it's filler. that would be disappointing.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Alruneia » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:23 am

Bullza wrote:Toyotaro said this "The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I’ll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them. "
This quote is a big part of why I think the arc is going to be filler.
...Well, filler isn't the correct word at this point. I mean I think the manga will skip the arc.
Of course, another big hint would be a "Story written by Toriyama" statement, which, if I recall correctly, was put on the Champa arc and the Zamasu arc, but not on the Copy-Vegeta saga, and to my knowledge not on this Hit saga either, at least not yet.
We also have to consider that the new arc was going to be announced at Jump Festa, which is on the December 17th-18th. I would find it very strange if the arc was announced the same day as, or the day before, it started to air. That's not how you announce things. You'd want to build some hype first. We saw Hit posters way before the Champa arc started, for example.
I think that's all we can say at this point. We'll have to wait for the month to pass so we can get more information.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by gofishus » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:24 am

precita wrote:Does it really matter in Super what's "canon?" Every episode is canon.
So by this logic, Garlic Jr's return in DBZ is canon too right...?

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Grimlock » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:31 am

precita wrote:Does it really matter in Super what's "canon?"
Yes. So we get to prepare ourselves for a bunch of boring episodes. Something I wasn't when that shitty Potaufeu saga began.
precita wrote:Every episode is canon.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:40 am

There's no confirmation of a "Hit Arc", for all we know this could be just a one off episode.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Helios518 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:05 am

It's likely filler but man, I really want this to be canon.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:18 am

Yeah I'd like it to be canon as well. I'm really not sure, it all depends how the schedule with the manga plays out.

There is no statement from Toriyama (yet) but they didn't really advertise the Copy Water arc like this did they? It just doesn't come across like filler to me though there's not to say it couldn't be it just sticks out when compared to the other episodes which definitely seem like filler.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Big Black Sayian » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:33 am

I wouldn't strees it too much.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by desu » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:36 am

Probably it's filler but longer than the 3 episodes Potafou arc, probably why they are adversiting it. If this was the case then the manga would have 1 or 3 months to go ahead without needing to rush a lot.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:04 pm

Surely an arc that we actually want won't be filler.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by phattangent » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:14 pm

Grimlock wrote:
precita wrote:Does it really matter in Super what's "canon?"
Yes. So we get to prepare ourselves for a bunch of boring episodes. Something I wasn't when that shitty Potaufeu saga began.
That saga was great, though! It had Jaco, Monaka, commeson, a pacifier seal, Copy-Vegeta, lots of serious moments, and lots of laughs. The only thing that would have made it better is if the whole thing was displayed on KamiTube in MST3K style.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by sangofe » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:18 pm

I thought it was only one episode with Hit? Not an entire arc?

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by phattangent » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:21 pm

sangofe wrote:I thought it was only one episode with Hit? Not an entire arc?
I guess we know from the episode titles that he's in at least one episode... maybe more?
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