Does Super get as much hate as GT?
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Does Super get as much hate as GT?
This has been on my mind lately, because when I tend to watch DB/ Z / GT clips on Youtube, the majority of the comment section is just bashing on how bad Super is. The amount of rant videos being uploaded is insane too. So, does this even mean Super gets more hate than GT now? Imo I'd just rank them at the same level, both series have their pros and cons and it all comes down to personal taste in the end, but...the hate. It's everywhere regarding Super. Fans criticize every new piece of footage, which I can understand to a certain degree.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
No way. Not even back in the BOG and FNF Arcs.
Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
I hate GT.
I don't hate Super.
No.
I don't hate Super.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
Not really, those same comment section praises the dub of super saying how good it is..
Most of them have a problem with super because of Japanese Voices, not super itself..
As for me personally, GT dosen't deserve to be called Dragonball and super is explained in my sig..
Most of them have a problem with super because of Japanese Voices, not super itself..
As for me personally, GT dosen't deserve to be called Dragonball and super is explained in my sig..
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
I personally don't hate GT, moreover I think Super won't get anywhere close to GT's ending's level, but I don't hate Super either... I think Super has a better story than GT, but GT has it's own great advantage in it's ending.
I guess, Super and GT always get compared with each other, but Super is kinda better... especially counting the last, Future Trunks/Goku Black Arc.
I think Super gets slightly lesser hate than GT, but maybe due to nostalgia factor. In my view, Super it's mediocre at best along with GT...
I guess, Super and GT always get compared with each other, but Super is kinda better... especially counting the last, Future Trunks/Goku Black Arc.
I think Super gets slightly lesser hate than GT, but maybe due to nostalgia factor. In my view, Super it's mediocre at best along with GT...
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
No.
Gt's boring, and at least for me Super never bored me. Not even when I rewatched the retellings.
Gt's boring, and at least for me Super never bored me. Not even when I rewatched the retellings.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
Back then Super was hated because of Episode 5 animation & the retellings but now not that much ...At the beginning it was crazy you have seen so
many videos and facebook posts about how bad the animation was etc There is hate especially if you watch youtubers who does reviews but not only
Dragonball different animes you can see some other anime fans hating on Dragonball Super Reviews saying Super sucks etc
many videos and facebook posts about how bad the animation was etc There is hate especially if you watch youtubers who does reviews but not only
Dragonball different animes you can see some other anime fans hating on Dragonball Super Reviews saying Super sucks etc
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
YouTube is not the majority. They're a vocal minority that just like to hate everything. So, don't pay attention to anything what the YouTube crowd says.
There's no way to say for sure which is more liked or hated, but if sales are anything to go by DBS is in a much better place than GT was. Of course, sales don't reflect quality, but factually speaking that's the only criteria which can be used to compare the two products.
Personally, both are poor products that get a lot of things wrong. There are few things I find myself enjoying in both products, but neither of them are good.
There's no way to say for sure which is more liked or hated, but if sales are anything to go by DBS is in a much better place than GT was. Of course, sales don't reflect quality, but factually speaking that's the only criteria which can be used to compare the two products.
Personally, both are poor products that get a lot of things wrong. There are few things I find myself enjoying in both products, but neither of them are good.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
In my humble opinion Super is comitting suicide being stuck in the this 10 years of "peace"!Saikyo no Senshi wrote:YouTube is not the majority. They're a vocal minority that just like to hate everything. So, don't pay attention to anything what the YouTube crowd says.
There's no way to say for sure which is more liked or hated, but if sales are anything to go by DBS is in a much better place than GT was. Of course, sales don't reflect quality, but factually speaking that's the only criteria which can be used to compare the two products.
Personally, both are poor products that get a lot of things wrong. There are few things I find myself enjoying in both products, but neither of them are good.
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1. Uub is mentioned, so EoZ is on the table -> we already know the ending -> there are no real stakes
2. Goku and Vegeta are already too overpowered -> virtually no room for real threats even if they pass through the time when they meet Uub.
3. The Supreme being (Omni-king/Zen'o) and the whole reality(the 12 universes and their alterante timelines and governors) are already introduced, there's no room for any true surprises.
These facts aside, characters are essentially caricartures of themselves and the producers rely too much on the fanservice... Now they are under the necessity to introduce a Saiyan form(LSSJ) from one of the movies, which even if it turns out not to be the exact same form, it truely represents what a crisis really exists... Let's be honest, it really does.
In my view, Super can no longer be saved in the sense to become a comparable masterpiece to DBZ(DB) anime... It's too late! It can be enjoyable, but that's it, it has failed to gain the capacity to inspire...
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I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
It's a real shame though, because the Super manga is leagues better. I keep hitting myself because think how good it would be if Super was actually done like the manga in Z's style. The manga has that Z violence and atmosphere going for it.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
1.Black says helloLow Tone G wrote:
2. Goku and Vegeta are already too overpowered -> virtually no room for real threats even if they pass through the time when they meet Uub.
In my view, Super can no longer be saved in the sense to become a comparable masterpiece to DBZ(DB) anime... It's too late! It can be enjoyable, but that's it, it has failed to gain the capacity to inspire...
2.Also db/dbz are more like a one time thing, i mean, the atmosphere and all that, super it's modern dragon ball and it'll never be old dragon ball.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
I'd ask you one question: Does Super inspire you?dbs fanboy wrote:1.Black says helloLow Tone G wrote:
2. Goku and Vegeta are already too overpowered -> virtually no room for real threats even if they pass through the time when they meet Uub.
In my view, Super can no longer be saved in the sense to become a comparable masterpiece to DBZ(DB) anime... It's too late! It can be enjoyable, but that's it, it has failed to gain the capacity to inspire...
2.Also db/dbz are more like a one time thing, i mean, the atmosphere and all that, super it's modern dragon ball and it'll never be old dragon ball.
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I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
Super is a roller coaster. GT is a merry go round.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
What do you mean?Low Tone G wrote:I'd ask you one question: Does Super inspire you?dbs fanboy wrote:1.Black says helloLow Tone G wrote:
2. Goku and Vegeta are already too overpowered -> virtually no room for real threats even if they pass through the time when they meet Uub.
In my view, Super can no longer be saved in the sense to become a comparable masterpiece to DBZ(DB) anime... It's too late! It can be enjoyable, but that's it, it has failed to gain the capacity to inspire...
2.Also db/dbz are more like a one time thing, i mean, the atmosphere and all that, super it's modern dragon ball and it'll never be old dragon ball.
I mean, i like super but so far, my feelings about how it could "inspire me" are really mixed. The only two things that i found inspirational were:
-Goku's never dying spirit in ep 14.
-Future Trunks/Mai not giving up in the Ft Trunks arc.
But this are pretty much basic things and pretty much the most basic thing i look for in any series.
But the things behind the scenes do inspire me. I mean, the schedule is hell for the animators, they really put a lot of effort in their work. People like Higashide who work in many episodes are the type of person i want to be, hard working.
Then again most of the things that i like in super are things that i pretty much want to see on the show and not necessarily anything inspirational.
Pretty much a mixed bag.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
YouTube is majority or closet thing too, if you ever wanna find a consensus for something gaming or TV related your best is go to YT.Saikyo no Senshi wrote:YouTube is not the majority. They're a vocal minority that just like to hate everything. So, don't pay attention to anything what the YouTube crowd says.
There's no way to say for sure which is more liked or hated, but if sales are anything to go by DBS is in a much better place than GT was. Of course, sales don't reflect quality, but factually speaking that's the only criteria which can be used to compare the two products.
Personally, both are poor products that get a lot of things wrong. There are few things I find myself enjoying in both products, but neither of them are good.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
Even then that isn't really true.SaiyanGod117 wrote:YouTube is majority or closet thing too, if you ever wanna find a consensus for something gaming or TV related your best is go to YT.Saikyo no Senshi wrote:YouTube is not the majority. They're a vocal minority that just like to hate everything. So, don't pay attention to anything what the YouTube crowd says.
There's no way to say for sure which is more liked or hated, but if sales are anything to go by DBS is in a much better place than GT was. Of course, sales don't reflect quality, but factually speaking that's the only criteria which can be used to compare the two products.
Personally, both are poor products that get a lot of things wrong. There are few things I find myself enjoying in both products, but neither of them are good.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
Super is worse than GT for me but it is more entertaining to watch despite being the mother of all pieces of shit Dragon Ball wise. That's why I'm not surprised people aren't so feverishly against it.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
Then tell me how it isn't.TheMathemagician wrote:Even then that isn't really true.SaiyanGod117 wrote:YouTube is majority or closet thing too, if you ever wanna find a consensus for something gaming or TV related your best is go to YT.Saikyo no Senshi wrote:YouTube is not the majority. They're a vocal minority that just like to hate everything. So, don't pay attention to anything what the YouTube crowd says.
There's no way to say for sure which is more liked or hated, but if sales are anything to go by DBS is in a much better place than GT was. Of course, sales don't reflect quality, but factually speaking that's the only criteria which can be used to compare the two products.
Personally, both are poor products that get a lot of things wrong. There are few things I find myself enjoying in both products, but neither of them are good.
Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
The only thing we can do to truly messure which one is hated more is through their financial results and we all know Super has faaaaaaaaar surpassed anything GT did financially.
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Re: Does Super get as much hate as GT?
I wouldn't say your completely objective opinion too loudly around here...HybridSaiyan wrote:It's a real shame though, because the Super manga is leagues better. I keep hitting myself because think how good it would be if Super was actually done like the manga in Z's style. The manga has that Z violence and atmosphere going for it.
But no matter how "bad" Super gets it will always have the distinct advantage of being considered "canon" and "from Toriyama"... no mattter how many Toei ideas they cram into it. So by default, for some people, Super is better because its "authentic" and "genuine"