Dragon Ball Kai (2009) vs. Dragon Ball Super

[8000 Saiyan]

Whats going on with Wakamoto, these days he sounds like a parody of his 90's voice.

Dude's getting old, much like Nozawa and the others. He still did a great job as Charles zi Britannia from Code Geass.

I don't think it's so much age, It just sounds like he's exaggerating his cell voice more in kai.

He did exaggerate his voice in Kai to the point of strain.

[Ripper 30]

Nozawa was still good in Kai, she's almost entirely awful in Super. The only thing that remotely saves her is Black.

Not really, she was okayish in Kai 1.0 but by the time Kai TFC ended she got her Powerful Voice back.
If you listen Her voice in Kai, which was a lot Weaker compared to Super voice where she seemed to get her powerful Voice back and she clearly deepens the voice when goku's serious and when he is talking to chi chi then its High Pitched so I don't see how she's Awful in Super.

[ekrolo2]

I wouldn't go entirely that far, but there's been some issues. The overlapping DADADADADADADA when Goku and Gohan were fighting was a problem, seemed like there was a lack on her part to differentiate her characters there, battle screams or not, it just didn't sound good. That scene will definitely be topped in the dub needless to say.

I'm not bothered by that so much as I am Goku sounding exactly the same tone wise no matter what's happening. He'll have the same inflated, stupidly happy voice regardless if you show him mutilated road kill or a cookie.

Really? I don't recall Goku having a happy tone when Black told him he killed ChiChi and Goten for instance.

The exception doesn't make the rule.

[MR.Mark]

I'm not bothered by that so much as I am Goku sounding exactly the same tone wise no matter what's happening. He'll have the same inflated, stupidly happy voice regardless if you show him mutilated road kill or a cookie.

Really? I don't recall Goku having a happy tone when Black told him he killed ChiChi and Goten for instance.

The exception doesn't make the rule.

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

[DHM211]

Really? I don't recall Goku having a happy tone when Black told him he killed ChiChi and Goten for instance.

The exception doesn't make the rule.

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

Goku doesn't sound too happy here either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7r13n- ... e=youtu.be

[LuckyCat]

Dude's getting old, much like Nozawa and the others. He still did a great job as Charles zi Britannia from Code Geass.

I don't think it's so much age, It just sounds like he's exaggerating his cell voice more in kai.

He did exaggerate his voice in Kai to the point of strain.

I think Wakamoto just got bored/forgetful when voicing Cell. If you look at any other of his more recent performances he still has a great range similar to 90s DBZ. That said, Wakamoto's Perfect Cell isn't that bad in Kai, it's the Imperfect Cell that's weak (the games are the same way).

[MR.Mark]

The exception doesn't make the rule.

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

Goku doesn't sound too happy here either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7r13n- ... e=youtu.be

Indeed, nor did Goku sound to happy when he was sinking underwater after Beerus beat his ass.

OfF topic but damn, I forgot how friggin NICE that shot of Goku and Freeza punching each other looks, it's like movie quality!

[ekrolo2]

Really? I don't recall Goku having a happy tone when Black told him he killed ChiChi and Goten for instance.

The exception doesn't make the rule.

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

The 5-10% of the time he doesn't sound the same doesn't make up for all the others when he does though. It just means Nozawa not terrible a smidge of the time.

[DHM211]

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

Goku doesn't sound too happy here either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7r13n- ... e=youtu.be

Indeed, nor did Goku sound to happy when he was sinking underwater after Beerus beat his ass.

OfF topic but damn, I forgot how friggin NICE that shot of Goku and Freeza punching each other looks, it's like movie quality!

Honestly the 2nd half of episode 95 was, imo, the best Dragon Ball has ever looked.

[MR.Mark]

The exception doesn't make the rule.

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

The 5-10% of the time he doesn't sound the same doesn't make up for all the others when he does though. It just means Nozawa not terrible a smidge of the time.

Sounds like you have more of a beef with how Goku is written than the performance? Because I'm simply not seeing this happy all the time tone, there's to many examples against it.

[8000 Saiyan]

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

The 5-10% of the time he doesn't sound the same doesn't make up for all the others when he does though. It just means Nozawa not terrible a smidge of the time.

Sounds like you have more of a beef with how Goku is written than the performance? Because I'm simply not seeing this happy all the time tone, there's to many examples against it.

Yeah, people should blame the scripts not Nozawa.

[Ripper 30]

The exception doesn't make the rule.

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

The 5-10% of the time he doesn't sound the same doesn't make up for all the others when he does though. It just means Nozawa not terrible a smidge of the time.

Can you give the example of rest of the 90% of the time you think goku sounded goofy in Serious Situations ?

[ekrolo2]

Well when you say, he's had the same voice no matter the situation, and I have examples against that, it becomes evidence, not an exception.

The 5-10% of the time he doesn't sound the same doesn't make up for all the others when he does though. It just means Nozawa not terrible a smidge of the time.

Can you give the example of rest of the 90% of the time you think goku sounded goofy in Serious Situations ?

Off the top of my head he sounds pretty goofy when they first fight Rose Black and when they save Gowasu & Shin from being murdered. Also when he fights Black as an SS2.

[MR.Mark]

Any line in particular? Can you give some context to the scenes in question?

[Bullza]

They have made Goku a little too happy go lucky in Super. He doesn't seem to care about the consequences of things as much.

Maybe some of that is because of the voice acting, I don't know if it carries over to the dub of Super because I haven't watched it yet.

[Metalwario64]

They have made Goku a little too happy go lucky in Super. He doesn't seem to care about the consequences of things as much.

Maybe some of that is because of the voice acting, I don't know if it carries over to the dub of Super because I haven't watched it yet.

Nozawa does that "heheh" laugh way more than ever in Super.

[LuckyCat]

They have made Goku a little too happy go lucky in Super. He doesn't seem to care about the consequences of things as much.

Maybe some of that is because of the voice acting, I don't know if it carries over to the dub of Super because I haven't watched it yet.

Nozawa does that "heheh" laugh way more than ever in Super.

She did it a ton in Buu Kai too. I'm thinking Nozawa's playing the character to better suit a Sunday Morning audience.

[Ripper 30]

They have made Goku a little too happy go lucky in Super. He doesn't seem to care about the consequences of things as much.

Maybe some of that is because of the voice acting, I don't know if it carries over to the dub of Super because I haven't watched it yet.

Actually the dub Shows him to be more heroic even know in first Episode when he said "I gotta keep training to keep you guys safe" to Goten.

She did it a ton in Buu Kai too. I'm thinking Nozawa's playing the character to better suit a Sunday Morning audience.

Yes, she did that in Kai TFC too. And yes in Super Goku's Character is more dumbed down for Kids but still I don't get how she at her worse here, if anything she was only at her Worse in Saiyan Arc of DB Kai but after that she got used to voicing him and in Super she is doing amazing with all the screams and changing Goku's Voice Tone when needed and screams considering she's 80 now she's doing great.

[MR.Mark]

They have made Goku a little too happy go lucky in Super. He doesn't seem to care about the consequences of things as much.

Maybe some of that is because of the voice acting, I don't know if it carries over to the dub of Super because I haven't watched it yet.

Nozawa does that "heheh" laugh way more than ever in Super.

Well aslong as he ain't going "heheh when future Bulma dies and such, I'm cool with it.

I think some of us just arent used to seeing Goku so front and center again as the star since the whole passing the torch to Gohan was dropped.

[Bullza]

The voice just naturally doesn't right, it's grown on me but Goku constantly sounds like a grandma, a happy grandma too.

In the dub because he's got a more masculine and appropriate voice and they've sort of toned down some of his aloofness it's more fitting. Once I see the dub in full Goku might not seem as different as he does from Kai.

He does have some more serious moments. Mostly in the Future Trunks though.