Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Xeztin]

Outside of Cell there is no popular villain to bring back

Cell is mainly popular in the West, not Japan. That's why Cell doesn't seem to get much coverage and merchandise in things like Dragonball Heroes. Toei and Bandai doesn't seem to care much about what oversees DB fans like, so I doubt they wold bring back Cell.

Cooler on the other hand has a high chance of coming to canon. He's already getting much spotlight in DB Heroes and he always had big Japanese fanbase.

They did say the dragon ball room takes into account the international market so the potential is there, even if it's not as high as someone popular in Japan.

Toyotaro hinted at the use of Majin Ozzoto in his latest drawing to be used in the future as well, a video game character that never seen the light of day in anime or manga. Seems like they are trying to make use of every non-canon character and re-use them. Probably for the designs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they use Pakuhan. He and Cooler are the next ones I see being used.

[potat_lasaro]

November: The big reveal of the mystery characters, with designs and screenshots from the film.
December: Since the film would have already opened at this point probably more designs or just talking about spoilers.

Wouldn't it make more sense to save the mystery characters for December after the movie opens ? I assume spoiling everything will cost them some people not rushing out to see it which will hurt its box office numbers.

Logically one would assume so, but unfortunately the Ichiban Kuji that contains the two new "super secret" characters is scheduled for early December... which means they will have to be formally revealed before hand. Bandai Spirits have revealed their full December Ichiban Kuji schedule and Dragon Ball is one of the first to be released, likely 8th December since 1st I feel is too early.

Japan loves spoiling crap, look at mastered UI couldn't help themselves but to ruin it just before March in Feb's Vjump so that is why I think they'll do the same for this movie and ruin the big secret characters in November's Vjump.

Two new "super secret" characters?

Why do I get the feeling the "new" characters are ones we've already seen but are being reintroduced. Like a Blue Gogeta or possibly Bardock or King Vegeta from the past when Broly and Goku were babies...

Or even just characters with new forms. I hope this option isn't the case. Preferably I would like two actual new characters who haven't been revealed and will play an important role in the movie. But I'm honestly just banking on these characters being something like Blue Gogeta, UI Goku or a Bardock

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Look at it like this. If they reveal Gogeta Blue, that will just make people HAVE to pre-order their tickets.

But i think ur wrong on the December thing. Does ANYBODY remember JUMP FESTA!!? You know, the event where the biggest Dragon Ball news is revealed most of the time?

I fully expect either an announcement of DBS coming back, a trailer advertising the next arc in the manga (as I'm sure it will continue after adapting the Broly movie), or whatever else is up next for the DB series as a whole. And the V-Jump scan will probably cover stuff about that

Jump Festa is where they'll hold the judging for this years BWFC sculpting competition, I am not expected anything more than that to be honest for things DB related. I feel it would be way too early in the movies cycle (overseas won't even be released) to suddenly shift focus from that to the return of the new series, if the series is going to return we probably won't hear about it for a few months after the movie has come out.

Two new "super secret" characters?

Why do I get the feeling the "new" characters are ones we've already seen but are being reintroduced. Like a Blue Gogeta or possibly Bardock or King Vegeta from the past when Broly and Goku were babies...

Or even just characters with new forms. I hope this option isn't the case. Preferably I would like two actual new characters who haven't been revealed and will play an important role in the movie. But I'm honestly just banking on these characters being something like Blue Gogeta, UI Goku or a Bardock

The new characters most likely won't be forms of existing characters or Bardock/King Vegeta they would just be labelled as "Movie Character A" instead of "Movie New Character A" because they have been shown in manga/Kai/DBS, as for forms of existing characters they would most likely just say it like for UI Goku they flat out labelled him as "New form Son Goku" before the reveal.

Gogeta since he hasn't appeared in the original manga, Kai, or DBS could get away with the "new" label.

One of the two new characters is also expected to be that popular that Bandai Spirits/Banpresto are releasing them overseas, I feel like Gogeta or a different fusion fits that bill.

My bold prediction is Yamoshi and a Goku/Yamoshi fusion. But given how afraid they seem to really go in deep for new things it probably won't be.

[Noah]

My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.

And before someone throws the ever stupid "you haven't seen the film yet!" argument, if your movie is bringing back a raging moron from the past, says it's doing something different with him then spends the entire big reveal trailer showing him acting like the exact same raging moron of the past, your message has less credibility than EAs.

Exactly. Super lacks something that GT despite all its problems had not: the fear of being its own thing

People may say GT attempted to mix DB concepts with Z and that's a valid complaint, but I don't recall this series regressing characters to their old outfits nor using remixed old themes/songs to appeal to fans nostalgia.

Super is afraid of aging its own characters, giving them new outfits/new designs. This series is always relying on the sucess Z had. Which explains why have a lot of callbacks in both medias that make fans roll eyes nowadays.

I'm glad the manga is ending soon, so we can direct our attention to this movie until the second trailer release.

What are you talking about? The manga is going to adapt the Broly movie and very likely will continue the story

Please, that will not be a continuation of the manga and yes a promotion of the movie like we had in RoF (2015).

[ekrolo2]

My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.

And before someone throws the ever stupid "you haven't seen the film yet!" argument, if your movie is bringing back a raging moron from the past, says it's doing something different with him then spends the entire big reveal trailer showing him acting like the exact same raging moron of the past, your message has less credibility than EAs.

Exactly. Super lacks something that GT despite all its problems had not: the fear of being its own thing

People may say GT attempted to mix DB concepts with Z and that's a valid critic, but I don't recall this series regressing characters to their old outfits nor using remixed old themes/songs to appeal to fans nostalgia.

Super is afraid of aging its characters, giving them new outfits/new designs. This series is always relying on the sucess Z had. That's why we have a lot of callbacks in both medias that make fans roll eyes nowadays.

Goku and Vegeta can't even get new costumes permanently. Hell, the fact Goten and Trunks can't age is all the proof you need how stuck everyone is and before someone tells me a DB series needs kids 1) you've got Pan and then Bra for that and 2) the Universe Survival arc removed them both for about 40 episodes, roughly a third of Super's episode count and I didn't notice any drop off in viewership over it.

[sintzu]

My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.

And before someone throws the ever stupid "you haven't seen the film yet!" argument, if your movie is bringing back a raging moron from the past, says it's doing something different with him then spends the entire big reveal trailer showing him acting like the exact same raging moron of the past, your message has less credibility than EAs.

Exactly. Super lacks something that GT despite all its problems had not: the fear of being its own thing

People may say GT attempted to mix DB concepts with Z and that's a valid critic, but I don't recall this series regressing characters to their old outfits nor using remixed old themes/songs to appeal to fans nostalgia.

Super is afraid of aging its characters, giving them new outfits/new designs. This series is always relying on the sucess Z had. That's why we have a lot of callbacks in both medias that make fans roll eyes nowadays.

Goku and Vegeta can't even get new costumes permanently. Hell, the fact Goten and Trunks can't age is all the proof you need how stuck everyone is and before someone tells me a DB series needs kids 1) you've got Pan and then Bra for that and 2) the Universe Survival arc removed them both for about 40 episodes, roughly a third of Super's episode count and I didn't notice any drop off in viewership over it.

Super is trying to have its cake and eat it too which has worked in some places but completely failed in others.

[AnimeNation101]

My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.

And before someone throws the ever stupid "you haven't seen the film yet!" argument, if your movie is bringing back a raging moron from the past, says it's doing something different with him then spends the entire big reveal trailer showing him acting like the exact same raging moron of the past, your message has less credibility than EAs.

Exactly. Super lacks something that GT despite all its problems had not: the fear of being its own thing

People may say GT attempted to mix DB concepts with Z and that's a valid complaint, but I don't recall this series regressing characters to their old outfits nor using remixed old themes/songs to appeal to fans nostalgia.

Super is afraid of aging its own characters, giving them new outfits/new designs. This series is always relying on the sucess Z had. Which explains why have a lot of callbacks in both medias that make fans roll eyes nowadays.

I'm glad the manga is ending soon, so we can direct our attention to this movie until the second trailer release.

What are you talking about? The manga is going to adapt the Broly movie and very likely will continue the story

Please, that will not be a continuation of the manga and yes a promotion of the movie like we had in RoF (2015).

Look, i hate the manga but Toyotaro said the manga would pass the anime and it wouldn’t make sense to end the DBS manga just for Toyotaro to write a DBS Broly manga, so put to and to together and you get the realization that Toyotaro’s manga will continue after the T.o.P, adapt the Broly movie (which is why the manga is going by so fast as they are trying to be able to release the manga version around the time the movie comes out), and then he will go past the movie. Its common sense.

[CTAkuma]

The new characters most likely won't be forms of existing characters or Bardock/King Vegeta they would just be labelled as "Movie Character A" instead of "Movie New Character A" because they have been shown in manga/Kai/DBS, as for forms of existing characters they would most likely just say it like for UI Goku they flat out labelled him as "New form Son Goku" before the reveal.

Gogeta since he hasn't appeared in the original manga, Kai, or DBS could get away with the "new" label.

One of the two new characters is also expected to be that popular that Bandai Spirits/Banpresto are releasing them overseas, I feel like Gogeta or a different fusion fits that bill.

My bold prediction is Yamoshi and a Goku/Yamoshi fusion. But given how afraid they seem to really go in deep for new things it probably won't be.

I don't think the new characters involves Gogeta, i fully expect the characters to be Yamoshi and that other saiyan who was with young Paragus in the trailer or a whole new character that we've never seen before.

[ekrolo2]

This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.

Mostly because the alternatives of Gogeta Blue or UI Goku doing it are boring as hell.

[sintzu]

This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.

As unlikely as this may seem, I think that issue being brought up with Kale could play a part in Broly's defeat here. Maybe it's something like what happened to Freeza on Namek where he'll start losing power until it kills him, giving whoever's fighting him an opening to win.

[ekrolo2]

This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.

As unlikely as this may seem, I think that issue being brought up with Kale could play a part in Broly's defeat here. Maybe it's something like what happened to Freeza on Namek where he'll start losing power until it kills him, giving whoever's fighting him an opening to win.

Nah, no opening, he just keeps powering up more and more, everyone's shitting themselves from it from Chaozu to Beerus and then he just fizzles out, drops dead & unconscious from the exertion.

[LightBing]

Broly should be defeated by Goku who unlocks Royal Ultra Instinct. He gets it after forming the most powerful Genki Dama ever with only the help of Vegeta, Piccolo and Bulma and absorbing said Genki Dama after Broly reflects it back just by screaming KAKAAAAAARRROOOOT! You're welcome Toei.

But seriously I agree that Goku or a fusion defeating Broly wouldn't be great. FnF for all it's bad had Freeza "win" in an interesting way. Of course Whis cheapness made the whole situation void.

I would prefer if Broly is not defeated, the victory can only be obtained but having him regain his senses. Either with the help the new alien girl who apparently has some kind of relationship with him or Paragus.

I guess Vegeta stepping in and winning would also be nice. If at the end he spares Broly and keeps up his new attitude towards Saiyans, if Vegeta's father had any role in Broly's struggles then an apologize for his father sins would also be pretty good.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

We're definitely getting spoiled before the film opens no matter what. The movie WCF comes out 3rd week of December since 1st December is on a Saturday the 3rd week in this case will be 10th-14th December. The WCFs will be fully revealed the week November's V Jump officially comes out... Just like UI earlier in the year. I'm convinced now the November issue of V Jump has the big spoilers.

For Resurrection "F" the movie WCFs didn't start coming out until May after movie release because SSGSS Vegeta hadn't been officially revealed.

It sucks but I guess they know what they're doing?

[CTAkuma]

Broly should be defeated by Goku who unlocks Royal Ultra Instinct. He gets it after forming the most powerful Genki Dama ever with only the help of Vegeta, Piccolo and Bulma and absorbing said Genki Dama after Broly reflects it back just by screaming KAKAAAAAARRROOOOT! You're welcome Toei.

But seriously I agree that Goku or a fusion defeating Broly wouldn't be great. FnF for all it's bad had Freeza "win" in an interesting way. Of course Whis cheapness made the whole situation void.

I would prefer if Broly is not defeated, the victory can only be obtained but having him regain his senses. Either with the help the new alien girl who apparently has some kind of relationship with him or Paragus.

I guess Vegeta stepping in and winning would also be nice. If at the end he spares Broly and keeps up his new attitude towards Saiyans, if Vegeta's father had any role in Broly's struggles then an apologize for his father sins would also be pretty good.

I prefer not Gogeta show up at all too, it would take away a lot with this movie centering around Broli and the history of the saiyans

[WittyUsername]

Maybe I’m just behind on the news, but the Wikipedia page for this movie claims that Vic Mignogna has in fact been confirmed to return for this film. Is that accurate?

[ricky84]

This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.

Mostly because the alternatives of Gogeta Blue or UI Goku doing it are boring as hell.

Those are the most logical ways to beat Broly without making the movie anti-climatic. Broly destroying himself in the end would be lame and very un-Dragonball like imo.

The only other options I see are:

1) Broly just simply wins and becomes a reoccurring neutral character from that point on.

2) MUI Vegeta steps in and beats Broly after Goku loses.

3). Broly wins against Goku but then is defeated (not killed though) by Kale in a sequel film or new series. This could potentially happen, since Kale is Broly's U6 counterpart she should have at least the same potential as Broly after a lot of training with either Goku & Vegeta or Vados.

[ekrolo2]

This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.

Mostly because the alternatives of Gogeta Blue or UI Goku doing it are boring as hell.

Those are the most logical ways to beat Broly without making the movie anti-climatic. Broly destroying himself in the end would be lame and very un-Dragonball like imo.

The only other options I see are:

1) Broly just simply wins and becomes a reoccurring neutral character from that point on.

2) MUI Vegeta steps in and beats Broly after Goku loses.

3). Broly wins against Goku but then is defeated (not killed though) by Kale in a sequel film or new series. This could potentially happen, since Kale is Broly's U6 counterpart she should have at least the same potential as Broly after a lot of training with either Goku & Vegeta or Vados.

I'll take an anticlimax if it avoids the most generic conclusions possible which is what MUI and Gogeta Blue are. Fuck, if someone has to beat Broly, have it be Beerus going full power for the first time ever. That'd be different and a resolution to something people have been wanting to see happen for 5 years now.

[Simere]

I want this movie to actually move the story along and not just be a simple big fight. The way the story advances in DB is by the characters progressing in strength. Beerus beating Broly would only maintain the status quo.

[Miracles]

We're definitely getting spoiled before the film opens no matter what. The movie WCF comes out 3rd week of December since 1st December is on a Saturday the 3rd week in this case will be 10th-14th December. The WCFs will be fully revealed the week November's V Jump officially comes out... Just like UI earlier in the year. I'm convinced now the November issue of V Jump has the big spoilers.

For Resurrection "F" the movie WCFs didn't start coming out until May after movie release because SSGSS Vegeta hadn't been officially revealed.

It sucks but I guess they know what they're doing?

lol, watch the secret characters be something like UI Goku.

Not really a secret.

[kudo6000]

This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.

That would be ridiculously anti-climatic, boring, and almost as predictable as Gogeta or UI Goku being possible end game options.