The only interesting option is to have Roshi take Broly out with his UI as that's surely to get people talking.kudo6000 wrote:That would be ridiculously anti-climatic, boring, and almost as predictable as Gogeta or UI Goku being possible end game options.ekrolo2 wrote:This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Beerus beating Broly is just as bad of an idea as Broly destroying himself. It would be yet another example of the gods fixing the Z-crews problems like in the ending of the Black arc, killing any tension whatsoever.ekrolo2 wrote:I'll take an anticlimax if it avoids the most generic conclusions possible which is what MUI and Gogeta Blue are. Fuck, if someone has to beat Broly, have it be Beerus going full power for the first time ever. That'd be different and a resolution to something people have been wanting to see happen for 5 years now.ricky84 wrote:Those are the most logical ways to beat Broly without making the movie anti-climatic. Broly destroying himself in the end would be lame and very un-Dragonball like imo.ekrolo2 wrote:This'll never happen but I'd love it if the thing beating Broly at the end was his own power killing or crippling him, similar to manga Kale.
Mostly because the alternatives of Gogeta Blue or UI Goku doing it are boring as hell.
The only other options I see are:
1) Broly just simply wins and becomes a reoccurring neutral character from that point on.
2) MUI Vegeta steps in and beats Broly after Goku loses.
3). Broly wins against Goku but then is defeated (not killed though) by Kale in a sequel film or new series. This could potentially happen, since Kale is Broly's U6 counterpart she should have at least the same potential as Broly after a lot of training with either Goku & Vegeta or Vados.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Kale beating Broly (in a sequel film or later series) is the only plausible option that's neither predictable (MUI Goku, SSB Fusion) nor anticlimatic (Beerus, self-destruction).
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If Broly isn't just a threat for the Z Warriors but to the entire Universe 7, there's no reason Beerus shouldn't get involved.ricky84 wrote:Beerus beating Broly is just as bad of an idea as Broly destroying himself. It would be yet another example of the gods fixing the Z-crews problems like in the ending of the Black arc, killing any tension whatsoever.ekrolo2 wrote:I'll take an anticlimax if it avoids the most generic conclusions possible which is what MUI and Gogeta Blue are. Fuck, if someone has to beat Broly, have it be Beerus going full power for the first time ever. That'd be different and a resolution to something people have been wanting to see happen for 5 years now.ricky84 wrote:
Those are the most logical ways to beat Broly without making the movie anti-climatic. Broly destroying himself in the end would be lame and very un-Dragonball like imo.
The only other options I see are:
1) Broly just simply wins and becomes a reoccurring neutral character from that point on.
2) MUI Vegeta steps in and beats Broly after Goku loses.
3). Broly wins against Goku but then is defeated (not killed though) by Kale in a sequel film or new series. This could potentially happen, since Kale is Broly's U6 counterpart she should have at least the same potential as Broly after a lot of training with either Goku & Vegeta or Vados.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Particularly because Broly is an insane rage machine who'll just keep destroying things until there's nothing left. Universe 7 doesn't have much left standing as it is.Draconic wrote:If Broly isn't just a threat for the Z Warriors but to the entire Universe 7, there's no reason Beerus shouldn't get involved.ricky84 wrote:Beerus beating Broly is just as bad of an idea as Broly destroying himself. It would be yet another example of the gods fixing the Z-crews problems like in the ending of the Black arc, killing any tension whatsoever.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
I don't mind Beerus getting involved, its him winning that would be a problem especially since DBS Broly was said to he power beyond God of Destruction tier according to a guide.Draconic wrote:If Broly isn't just a threat for the Z Warriors but to the entire Universe 7, there's no reason Beerus shouldn't get involved.ricky84 wrote:Beerus beating Broly is just as bad of an idea as Broly destroying himself. It would be yet another example of the gods fixing the Z-crews problems like in the ending of the Black arc, killing any tension whatsoever.ekrolo2 wrote: I'll take an anticlimax if it avoids the most generic conclusions possible which is what MUI and Gogeta Blue are. Fuck, if someone has to beat Broly, have it be Beerus going full power for the first time ever. That'd be different and a resolution to something people have been wanting to see happen for 5 years now.
In fact, Broly killing Beerus in an all out fight (before taking on Goku & Vegeta) would be the best way to raise tension in the film. A common complaint about Dragonball Super is the lack of tension in some of its arcs. By killing off Beerus, it would also remove Whis (who can bring people back to life) from the conflict, since it is stated that when a God of Destruction dies, its Angel attendant will be "decatived" until another is assigned to replace the previous one. Since we know that Angels don't die when their Hakaishin are killed (as shown in the Tournament of Power arc) this could also be an opportunity to explain what it means for an Angel to be "deactivated".
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The latter two, maybe, but what would be plausible about it?ricky84 wrote:Kale beating Broly (in a sequel film or later series) is the only plausible option that's neither predictable (MUI Goku, SSB Fusion) nor anticlimatic (Beerus, self-destruction).
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That wouldn't be too bad but I don't trust modern DB not to just do a shitty do over of Fusion Reborn where Blue Gogeta stomps Broly or an equivalent thing happening with UI Goku.ricky84 wrote:I don't mind Beerus getting involved, its him winning that would be a problem especially since DBS Broly was said to he power beyond God of Destruction tier according to a guide.Draconic wrote:If Broly isn't just a threat for the Z Warriors but to the entire Universe 7, there's no reason Beerus shouldn't get involved.ricky84 wrote:
Beerus beating Broly is just as bad of an idea as Broly destroying himself. It would be yet another example of the gods fixing the Z-crews problems like in the ending of the Black arc, killing any tension whatsoever.
In fact, Broly killing Beerus in an all out fight (before taking on Goku & Vegeta) would be the best way to raise tension in the film. A common complaint about Dragonball Super is the lack of tension in some of its arcs. By killing off Beerus, it would also remove Whis (who can bring people back to life) from the conflict, since it is stated that when a God of Destruction dies, its Angel attendant will be "decatived" until another is assigned to replace the previous one. Since we know that Angels don't die when their Hakaishin are killed (as shown in the Tournament of Power arc) this could also be an opportunity to explain what it means for an Angel to be "deactivated".
The angel deactivation thing never made any sense to me. Okay, so if a God of Destruction dies, the angel gets render inert until a new one is assigned, who's doing the assigning? Is it supposed to be the Kaioshin? Is their lifeline a one way street where a Kaioshin can survive if his GoD dies? This also reminds me, why do none of the Angels who lost their GoDs in the ToP turn off?
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Well since Kale and Broly are counterparts (like Vegeta/Cabba, Goku/Caulfila and Freeza/Frost), Kale should have at least the same potential as Broly lore wise.Simere wrote:The latter two, maybe, but what would be plausible about it?ricky84 wrote:Kale beating Broly (in a sequel film or later series) is the only plausible option that's neither predictable (MUI Goku, SSB Fusion) nor anticlimatic (Beerus, self-destruction).
My idea for the film would be that MUI Goku or SSB Gogeta either fights Full Powered Broly to a draw before depowering/defusing or they flat out lose to him. Then afterwards Vegeta mentions Kale as a possible option against Broly. Goku & Vegeta (the other Z-fighters being optional) then go to U6 Sadala to search for Kale before Broly gets his hands on her. The next film or story arc could be about Goku, Vegeta & Vados training Kale to surpass Broly (they most likely would train Cabba and Caulfila also for the hell of it).
This idea would a complete curve ball that most wouldn't expect. Also, it would be an opportunity to give us the long awaited Sadala arc: Cabba could take Vegeta to see King Sadala like he promised him, Goku could run into Caulfila's gang and train them, Vegeta could also become the new leader of the Sadala Force, Kale could finally get a complete backstory, the three U6 Saiyans could also get more character development in general, Hit would most likely be hired by whoever to kill Broly in this story, Frost could be plotting his revenge against Freeza and possibly become a neutral/antiheroic character like Hit, etc. Even the U6 Namekians could get involved, as the Z-crew would most likely want to use the U6 Namek Dragonballs after the conflict is over. Piccolo could have a big moment with them.
It would also be an opportunity to expand the lore of the Saiyans from both Universe 7 & 6. Hell, Yamoshi could have a U6 counterpart for all we know. His counterpart possibly winning the ancient conflict could be the main reason why the U6 saiyans evolved so differently from the U7 saiyans.
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Predictable doesn't mean bad, I would love to see Gogeta show, I always thought It would be cool if Goku and Vegeta were both in Omen and their bodies fused on their own.
I'm still thinking we'll get a draw and Broly will just leave.
I'm still thinking we'll get a draw and Broly will just leave.
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That Takahashi SSJG Vegeta looks so damn good. I can't wait to see this fight scene.
Little translation from Herms. Broly gets stronger the more he fights.
That Takahashi SSJG Vegeta looks so damn good. I can't wait to see this fight scene.
Little translation from Herms. Broly gets stronger the more he fights.
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Nah, this is just fanservice at it's best and from storytelling point it doesn't add anything worth.miguelnuva1 wrote:Predictable doesn't mean bad, I would love to see Gogeta show, I always thought It would be cool if Goku and Vegeta were both in Omen and their bodies fused on their own.
Cool, that's supposed to be SSJ Broly, right? Didn't like much, still prefer his M10 design:Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:New scan:
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There will be a trailer at Jump Anime Festa. Anyone know when Jump Anime Festa is held?
EDIT: Nevermind, Yonkou answered my question. Jump Anime Festa takes place between 25th of November - 2nd of December. Damn. I can't wait until late November for a new trailer. I was expecting a new trailer around late October. Ah well.
EDIT: Nevermind, Yonkou answered my question. Jump Anime Festa takes place between 25th of November - 2nd of December. Damn. I can't wait until late November for a new trailer. I was expecting a new trailer around late October. Ah well.
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People make a big deal about that single Super Saiyan God bang, but I'm pretty sure Toriyama just draws it on every Super transformation these days.
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Dragon Ball Super as a whole does not add much so how the appearance of Gogeta would/could be worse?Noah wrote:Nah, this is just fanservice at it's best and from storytelling point it doesn't add anything worth.
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Yeah this is literally USELESS information. They might aswell have not revealed anything. I’m not getting hyped for an “announcement” of a trailer that’s literally MONTHS away.Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:There will be a trailer at Jump Anime Festa. Anyone know when Jump Anime Festa is held?
EDIT: Nevermind, Yonkou answered my question. Jump Anime Festa takes place between 25th of November - 2nd of December. Damn. I can't wait until late November for a new trailer. I was expecting a new trailer around late October. Ah well.
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Man, Broly is looking really SS4 there.
His Rage form > Everything else.
His Rage form > Everything else.
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Takahashi always looks so good. I'm not into ssjg Vegeta since transformations always seem less interesting on Vegeta because his hair never changes the way Gokû's does. I can deal with ssjg Vegeta if it means I also get more Takahashi ssjg Gokû.
A November trailer doesn't mean much in mid August, but the way time moves for me currently it'll be here in no time I'm sure.
Still hoping we get more plot info. Right now it feels so bare bones there's not much of interest to me to discuss or theorize on outside of how much is this gonna be a revised Movie 8 vs how much is this gonna be fresh and new.
A November trailer doesn't mean much in mid August, but the way time moves for me currently it'll be here in no time I'm sure.
Still hoping we get more plot info. Right now it feels so bare bones there's not much of interest to me to discuss or theorize on outside of how much is this gonna be a revised Movie 8 vs how much is this gonna be fresh and new.
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Too...much...Fan...service... for adding Gogeta?...................Noah wrote:Nah, this is just fanservice at it's best and from storytelling point it doesn't add anything worth.miguelnuva1 wrote:Predictable doesn't mean bad, I would love to see Gogeta show, I always thought It would be cool if Goku and Vegeta were both in Omen and their bodies fused on their own.
Cool, that's supposed to be SSJ Broly, right? Didn't like much, still prefer his M10 design:Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:New scan:
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may i remind you what this movie is called? And why the idea was brought up?
The movie itself IS fanservice.
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It's great to finally see SsjG Vegeta in animated form. Does anyone know what it says above and on the side of his image ?
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.