Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[ZeroNeonix]

Speaking of music, remember when the English dub of Lord Slug used Disturbed's music? lol. Honestly, if we got a new Disturbed song in the Broly movie, I'd be pretty happy about it. Dragon Ball and rock/metal go well together.

[BlueBasilisk]

Common sense suggest that Vegeta always had SSG. You need SSG in order to become a SSB in the first place, since SSB is merely what happens when a SSG goes SSJ (as stated in RoF). That's why SSB was originally call super saiyan god super saiyan.

Clearly not. Goku and Vegeta were shown to have obtained the form after they held in their ki.

What do you mean by "held in their ki"? We never actually see the first time they ever'd transform into it. We are only told in RoF that SSB is simply a SSG going SSJ.

In the anime they generate god ki by sealing their leaking ki inside their bodies and increasing it, or something like that. It's the same principle as MSSB in the manga. Whis teaches it to them in the RoF pre-arc training and they flash blue the first time they do it. Vegeta's comments inside Whis' staff in episode 22 indicate they'd never used god ki before that. Goku says he has the powers of a Super Saiyan God when he's explaining it to Frieza later so it seems like that's when/how he re-learned how to use SSG. "It's a little confusing and hard to explain but I'm a Saiyan with the powers of Super Saiyan God who is Super Saiyan."

[PFM18]

There's nothing that suggest that Vegeta had it, because SSGSS isn't obtained by powering up in SSG in the anime, but instead it's a form obtained through holding in your Ki.

Common sense suggest that Vegeta always had SSG. You need SSG in order to become a SSB in the first place, since SSB is merely what happens when a SSG goes SSJ (as stated in RoF). That's why SSB was originally call super saiyan god super saiyan.

Clearly not. Goku and Vegeta were shown to have obtained the form after they held in their ki.

the verbatim describing SSB obviously implies that SSG is a prerequisite.

SSG= God Ki
SSB= SSJ+God Ki

[GodVegetto91]

I really hope Toei actually acts like a good Toei now by modifying Toriyama’s script if Blue Evo and Kaioken weren’t in there. They need to include that in the movie, otherwise the continuity is fucked up. And i don’t care about this “It’s Toriyama’s version crap excuse” the movie is an anime movie that follows the events of the ToP. Therefore, Toei should make sure these 2 evolved forms are in there. It’s for the fans. And Toei is all about an excess of transformations and fanservice.

[Saiga]

I'd prefer not to see them. Keep this movie closer to Toriyama's script and just adapt it for the anime when they eventually reboot it, because they almost certainly will anyway.

[Noah]

I'd prefer not to see them. Keep this movie closer to Toriyama's script and just adapt it for the anime when they eventually reboot it, because they almost certainly will anyway.

Er... No. Enough of retellings already, I hope "Ultra" starts with a new plot, after this movie (if possible).

[sintzu]

I'd prefer not to see them. Keep this movie closer to Toriyama's script and just adapt it for the anime when they eventually reboot it, because they almost certainly will anyway.

Er... No. Enough of retellings already, I hope "Ultra" starts with a new plot, after this movie (if possible).

In a perfect world maybe but retellings seem to be getting popular so it'll most likely start with Broly which like other retellings, will be a waste of time.

[RecolorSaiyan]

20 episode retelling is definitely going to happen. That 90 minutes of script they cut will be shown during the retelling

[GodVegetto91]

I'd prefer not to see them. Keep this movie closer to Toriyama's script and just adapt it for the anime when they eventually reboot it, because they almost certainly will anyway.

Right, because fuck continuity right?? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Fans that have watched the anime, are going to wonder where the hell those two forms are when they see this movie and know that it’s a continuation of the ToP. But apparently you’re willing to accept a fucked up continuity?

[GodVegetto91]

I'd prefer not to see them. Keep this movie closer to Toriyama's script and just adapt it for the anime when they eventually reboot it, because they almost certainly will anyway.

Er... No. Enough of retellings already, I hope "Ultra" starts with a new plot, after this movie (if possible).

Well, the chances of your preference coming to fruition are slim to none. This movie will MOST LIKELY be adapted into an Arc once Super returns. You can practically bet on it.

[Saiga]

I'd prefer not to see them. Keep this movie closer to Toriyama's script and just adapt it for the anime when they eventually reboot it, because they almost certainly will anyway.

Right, because fuck continuity right?? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Fans that have watched the anime, are going to wonder where the hell those two forms are when they see this movie and know that it’s a continuation of the ToP. But apparently you’re willing to accept a fucked up continuity?

No, I'm not. I just expect that the anime will re-tell the events, which will make the re-telling part of the anime's continuity. Why bother making this movie align with the anime's continuity when I don't expect the anime to do the same thing?

If they stay closer to Toriyama's script this movie can be its own thing, like the BOG-RF continuity. Any continuity issues will be completely pointless when the anime resumes.

edit: Hell, the more differences this movie has from the anime's continuity, the fresher the retelling will be by adding those elements back in and differentiating it from the movie.

[Bergamo]

Common sense suggest that Vegeta always had SSG. You need SSG in order to become a SSB in the first place, since SSB is merely what happens when a SSG goes SSJ (as stated in RoF). That's why SSB was originally call super saiyan god super saiyan.

Clearly not. Goku and Vegeta were shown to have obtained the form after they held in their ki.

the verbatim describing SSB obviously implies that SSG is a prerequisite.

SSG= God Ki
SSB= SSJ+God Ki

While I don't disagree, SSG was obviously never intended to reappear in the Anime. It doesn't even make sense for Goku to use SSG when his base should already have absorbed the power of the form. That's why I say that in the context of the anime and movies, it is completely reasonable to assume that Vegeta can't use SSG because he didn't do the ritual.

[PFM18]

Clearly not. Goku and Vegeta were shown to have obtained the form after they held in their ki.

the verbatim describing SSB obviously implies that SSG is a prerequisite.

SSG= God Ki
SSB= SSJ+God Ki

While I don't disagree, SSG was obviously never intended to reappear in the Anime. It doesn't even make sense for Goku to use SSG when his base should already have absorbed the power of the form. That's why I say that in the context of the anime and movies, it is completely reasonable to assume that Vegeta can't use SSG because he didn't do the ritual.

he didn't absorb the form itself he experienced that power and retained it in his SSJ form. Doesn't mean utilizing God ki won't still yield a boost. Both of them learned SSB so they both learned how to tap into SSG in the anime.

the movie continuity is something different entirely.

[Bergamo]

the verbatim describing SSB obviously implies that SSG is a prerequisite.

SSG= God Ki
SSB= SSJ+God Ki

While I don't disagree, SSG was obviously never intended to reappear in the Anime. It doesn't even make sense for Goku to use SSG when his base should already have absorbed the power of the form. That's why I say that in the context of the anime and movies, it is completely reasonable to assume that Vegeta can't use SSG because he didn't do the ritual.

he didn't absorb the form itself he experienced that power and retained it in his SSJ form. Doesn't mean utilizing God ki won't still yield a boost. Both of them learned SSB so they both learned how to tap into SSG in the anime.

the movie continuity is something different entirely.

He was equal to his strength while using God ki with normal ki, so I don't see why God ki would give him a boost. It was shown that you could learn SSB in a way that has nothing to do with SSG.

I just believe in giving credit where credit is due. SSG Vegeta was a Toyotaro original idea.

[MisteryOne]

SSG Vegeta was literally said to be Toyotaro's idea supervised by Toriyama on the interview of the manga volume. I know people love to headcanon things to make sense with how badly the anime version handled forms but we can't just ignore given information for the sake of it.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Dragon Ball Super: Broly has its own page on the official FUNimation Films website.

Apparently FUNi will be hosting a dub premiere a day before the film opens nationwide in... Japan! That's kinda nuts if true!

Meanwhile Toei Europe haven't done anything whatsoever............. Their website is still down (and being "fixed") it's been over a year shows how f***king competent they are! They went from being completely communicative a few months ago to now just straight blanking. Looking increasinly likely gonna have to watch a shitty cam copy /:

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Dragon Ball Super: Broly has its own page on the official FUNimation Films website.

Apparently FUNi will be hosting a dub premiere a day before the film opens nationwide in... Japan! That's kinda nuts if true!

Meanwhile Toei Europe haven't done anything whatsoever............. Their website is still down (and being "fixed") it's been over a year shows how f***king competent they are! They went from being completely communicative a few months ago to now just straight blanking. Looking increasinly likely gonna have to watch a shitty cam copy /:

Surely you guys are going to get the film around the same time as North America and Australia. Toei want this to be an international success, so it would be pretty stupid of them to not take advantage of all English-speaking countries once the dub is ready for theatres.

Weren't Manga UK responsible for Resurrection 'F's theatrical run in the UK? Are they going to be distributing this new movie or is Toei Europe handling it?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Dragon Ball Super: Broly has its own page on the official FUNimation Films website.

Apparently FUNi will be hosting a dub premiere a day before the film opens nationwide in... Japan! That's kinda nuts if true!

Meanwhile Toei Europe haven't done anything whatsoever............. Their website is still down (and being "fixed") it's been over a year shows how f***king competent they are! They went from being completely communicative a few months ago to now just straight blanking. Looking increasinly likely gonna have to watch a shitty cam copy /:

Surely you guys are going to get the film around the same time as North America and Australia. Toei want this to be an international success, so it would be pretty stupid of them to not take advantage of all English-speaking countries once the dub is ready for theatres.

Weren't Manga UK responsible for Resurrection 'F's theatrical run in the UK? Are they going to be distributing this new movie or is Toei Europe handling it?

Well Toei Europe told me back in July that they were working with distributors across Europe to distribute the film. All communication has been cut of since. I'd assume they'd license the film out to Manga and they'd do marketing, release on home video etc. But who knows with Toei Europe they're notorious for being slow and the Toei branches don't have a good track record of communicating effectively, we had a whole second dub of DBS commissioned for example.

Deep down I've accepted us not getting the film until spring. Each pasing month it's one less month of marketing for the film and now September is almost over.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

I do wonder what the future holds after the movie.

Will there be a re-telling running alongside the manga for the anime?

Will it actually be an in-continuity follow-up?

There are downsides and upsides to both ideas, though the former obviously has some negative precedent given DBS's history of bad pre-production, not to mention that forgoing continuity is bad news bears with regards to creating a quality continuous story.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I really hope Toei actually acts like a good Toei now by modifying Toriyama’s script if Blue Evo and Kaioken weren’t in there. They need to include that in the movie, otherwise the continuity is fucked up. And i don’t care about this “It’s Toriyama’s version crap excuse” the movie is an anime movie that follows the events of the ToP. Therefore, Toei should make sure these 2 evolved forms are in there. It’s for the fans. And Toei is all about an excess of transformations and fanservice.

How exactly them not showing up fucks up continuity?