Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

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Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:42 am

This is just my personal opinion but next episode does sound like Vegeta's last stand. i mean he did his best, eliminated lots of warriors, had a great fight with Jiren AND he's about to fight Toppo god. ever since i saw the Toyotaro poster where Goku, 17 and Frieza were hilighted i couldn't stop but think that they're potentiall the final 3 now don't quote me on that i could be very wrong but i just can't see Goku and Vegeta fusing in this arc and i also don't see what's left for Vegeta ? i mean 127 does potentially hint at being a 17's episode but it's 100% yet so i'm just speculating. what's your thought on Vegeta being next to go ? will you be okay with it ?

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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by sintzu » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:55 am

I think Vegeta is mentioned in 127 somewhere so no.
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Post by Professor Freeza » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:58 am

sintzu wrote:I think Vegeta is mentioned in 127 somewhere so no.
we only have a title for Ep 127. What are you talking about?

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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by SupremeKai25 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:06 am

It would be cool if Vegeta sacrificed himself to eliminate Toppo. Like Gohan did with Dyspo, i guess.
but i just can't see Goku and Vegeta fusing in this arc
Agreed. Also, Toriyama didn't even plan on bringing Vegito back for the Zamasu saga. In the original script, it is stated that Fused Zamasu would have been overpowered by Goku and Vegeta and that they would take turns fighting him. It is clear that Toriyama doesn't want to bring Vegito back, and frankly i agree with him. Goku and Vegeta are evolving in their own different ways, why should they fuse now that they have finally achieved new and unique forms and techniques? It seems a waste. And it is clear with the Potara retcon that Toriyama doesn't want Vegito to play a major role, even if he did came back for the Tournament of Power. And Beerus wouldn't risk fusion now, because if Jiren's overwhelming power were somehow able to eliminate Vegito, then Universe 7 would lose two fighters instead of one, a risk that Beerus is not willing to take.
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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by sintzu » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:28 am

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sintzu wrote:I think Vegeta is mentioned in 127 somewhere so no.
we only have a title for Ep 127. What are you talking about?
It was those supposed fake leakes then. The official titles were released close to the same time so I've gotten them mixed up. :oops:
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Post by MrBlackFox » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:41 pm

I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%

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Post by Kanious » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:48 pm

I don't think so. I can't see Goku winning against Jiren alone, even if he masters UI.

After Goku, Vegeta is the strongest in U7, and even if U7 wins by having more people in the arena, i think that Vegeta is necessary to help hold Jiren.

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Post by MrBlackFox » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:54 pm

Kanious wrote:I don't think so. I can't see Goku winning against Jiren alone, even if he masters UI.

After Goku, Vegeta is the strongest in U7, and even if U7 wins by having more people in the arena, i think that Vegeta is necessary to help hold Jiren.
I'm more and more convinced Jiren will never be beaten, and the ending of the tournament, while Will be the wish to restore erased universes, will be slightly different than we predict

Jiren wins or Jiren step back and surrender, maybe after being satisfacted enough from Goku's fight to the limits

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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:58 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%
Actually nope 17 ain't going out next episode. the fact that they even made it look like he's getting eliminated is proof he's going to still be in that and episode 127's title.

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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:59 pm

I think 17's getting rung out next, but not until that Final Barrier episode. (127). They're saving Freeza for something. I think Vegeta's staying in until the end. Why give him a power up only to ring him out? I also think Gogeta is still in the cards, so.
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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:09 pm

Chuquita wrote:I think 17's getting rung out next, but not until that Final Barrier episode. (127). They're saving Freeza for something. I think Vegeta's staying in until the end. Why give him a power up only to ring him out? I also think Gogeta is still in the cards, so.
I can almost guarantee you vegeta was given a power up because he was supposed to tangle with hakaishin Toppo in the script and the easiest way to get away with not having to explain much or give little details will be to power up Vegeta as well..
We will see but I am betting on this being an anime only powerup
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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by supercat » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:10 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%
Funny how several of your posts are seemingly about how and why 17 is getting eliminated. A bit redundant don't you think?

But even barring all that, I disagree with practically everything you've said thus far.

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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

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MrBlackFox wrote:I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%
Actually nope 17 ain't going out next episode. the fact that they even made it look like he's getting eliminated is proof he's going to still be in that and episode 127's title.
Anytime in nearly any story preview you have a moment where they are showing someone important getting eliminated or in the show itself some cheers and says they are getting eliminated, that is an instant cliche that they are NOT being eliminated.

Most eliminations that follow a similar plot thread like the ToP always wants to keep the eliminations a surprise and not so easy to see coming. So by that alone 17 will not be Ring-Out.

Also, the titles of 127 if I remember have 17 still in this so yea 17 is not going anywhere this week and even by teases for 127 you have to take ANY talk about 17 going or any other character with allot of salt, Toei likes to play fans.

As for Vegeta it is hard to say, the way they are setting up the story seems scary for him and their is no showing him being ringed out, so the cliche is not their to protect him, only making the fight look scary for him. So I don't know, it is possible, but honestly I have to wait like everyone else to see the episode.
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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:26 pm

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MrBlackFox wrote:I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%
Actually nope 17 ain't going out next episode. the fact that they even made it look like he's getting eliminated is proof he's going to still be in that and episode 127's title.
Anytime in nearly any story you have a moment where they are showing someone important getting eliminated or in the show itself some cheers and says they are getting eliminated, that is an instant cliche that they are NOT being eliminated.

Most eliminations that follow a similar plot thread like the ToP always wants to keep the eliminations a surprise and not so easy to see coming. So by that alone 17 will not be Ring-Out.

Also, the titles of 127 if I remember have 17 still in this so yea 17 is not going anywhere this week and even by teases for 127 you have to take ANY talk about 17 going or any other character with allot of salt, Toei likes to play fans.

As for Vegeta it is hard to say, the way they are setting up the story seems scary for him and their is no showing him being ringed out, so the cliche is not their to protect him, only making the fight look scary for him. So I don't know, it is possible, but honestly I have to wait like everyone else to see the episode.
Exactly !! people still haven't learned that they won't spoil an elimination in the preview. they'd rather that be surprising. i don't know how Vegeta fans will take his elimination if it happens. i'm not sure he will of course but i feel like they don't even consider that being a possibilty. as for me a 17 fan it's not that i don't consider 17 being eliminated cuz he can get eliminated at this point at any moment but i don't feel like they will get him out without a bang like that person is alluding. seriously making someone who has been practically the face of the arc for U7 lose with a blast from Toppo like that sounds not right. ep 127 sounds more fitting to a 17 elimination as it sounds like he might do something affective that will lead to a possible elimination.

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MrBlackFox wrote:I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%
Funny how several of your posts are seemingly about how and why 17 is getting eliminated. A bit redundant don't you think?

But even barring all that, I disagree with practically everything you've said thus far.
It's true, but I did this with other characters too in the first stages of the Tournament, for me who's going out next is one of the biggest points of the ToP, especially now we are on its closing episodes The curiosity skyrocketed

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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

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Lapislettuce wrote: Actually nope 17 ain't going out next episode. the fact that they even made it look like he's getting eliminated is proof he's going to still be in that and episode 127's title.
Anytime in nearly any story you have a moment where they are showing someone important getting eliminated or in the show itself some cheers and says they are getting eliminated, that is an instant cliche that they are NOT being eliminated.

Most eliminations that follow a similar plot thread like the ToP always wants to keep the eliminations a surprise and not so easy to see coming. So by that alone 17 will not be Ring-Out.

Also, the titles of 127 if I remember have 17 still in this so yea 17 is not going anywhere this week and even by teases for 127 you have to take ANY talk about 17 going or any other character with allot of salt, Toei likes to play fans.

As for Vegeta it is hard to say, the way they are setting up the story seems scary for him and their is no showing him being ringed out, so the cliche is not their to protect him, only making the fight look scary for him. So I don't know, it is possible, but honestly I have to wait like everyone else to see the episode.
Exactly !! people still haven't learned that they won't spoil an elimination in the preview. they'd rather that be surprising. i don't know how Vegeta fans will take his elimination if it happens. i'm not sure he will of course but i feel like they don't even consider that being a possibilty. as for me a 17 fan it's not that i don't consider 17 being eliminated cuz he can get eliminated at this point at any moment but i don't feel like they will get him out without a bang like that person is alluding. seriously making someone who has been practically the face of the arc for U7 lose with a blast from Toppo like that sounds not right. ep 127 sounds more fitting to a 17 elimination as it sounds like he might do something affective that will lead to a possible elimination.
At this point No-One is going out without being an Epic/Important Moment, it is like The Walking Dead Show Rules, you don't get a death of a Main or Secondary charcter unless they are built up well and it gives the going out of that character a meaning.

The closer we got to the end the more likely that would be for the final characters, it is important to, to give major characters the respect for development and plot depth moment purposes for being here for so long or having such an importance on the story.

But this is true also with other Major characters Like Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, Hit, Ribrianne and others that when they went out they had MAJOR Moments and Build up before it happen. Your level of importance to the story determines how you elimination will be. Writers always want to make the last stand of any Major Character be fitting towards that character like those that I said before.

As for WHO will go Next, I would not put money on anyone at this point.

Honestly I would like to see a change in the Formula like a Vegeta or 17 being the Major Final Force to defend their World, it be a nice change of pace, but again everyone has their own favorites they want to see do their best, so whoever goes it will be devastating for them no matter what. :(

Best to hope for is that they get as much substances as one hopes for each of them and they go out they best way and more beyond that you would have hoped for.

BUT at this point ANYONE Going, this includes Gohan, Going at this point should feel in a sense Very Proud of their Favorite Characters for what they accomplished cause this is Major with how far they each made it and how much they contributed to the story! :thumbup:

It is about both how far they got and the substance of what they Accomplished, how they developed and what they brought to the Story overall!

I also Say this for characters that go eliminated awhile back already too, one that I liked a Whole Lot like My Ribrianne, Kale and Caulifla cause their eliminations while sad, gained them substance and meaning for each of them when it happen, they where built up and even given development from it. :)

Same goes here as well, but These are the Best of the Final Best, You can add that to their Resumes Going Forward! :thumbup:
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:55 pm

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Chuquita wrote:I think 17's getting rung out next, but not until that Final Barrier episode. (127). They're saving Freeza for something. I think Vegeta's staying in until the end. Why give him a power up only to ring him out? I also think Gogeta is still in the cards, so.
I can almost guarantee you vegeta was given a power up because he was supposed to tangle with hakaishin Toppo in the script and the easiest way to get away with not having to explain much or give little details will be to power up Vegeta as well..
We will see but I am betting on this being an anime only powerup
I agree. I can also see it being an anime only power-up. Something about it....the motivation for the power up feels too sentimental for Toriyama, the way the form looks, the lack of fanfare leading up to it....it feels a lot like Future Trunks' super saiyan rage from the previous arc.
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MrBlackFox wrote:
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MrBlackFox wrote:I don't think will be the next, next elimination will be 17's, we can also see Toppo standing alone after Hakai right on 17's face and immediately before Vegeta stepping in, when Geets is watching Toppo from that cliff
Is the moment in which 17 goes out imho, 99.9%
Funny how several of your posts are seemingly about how and why 17 is getting eliminated. A bit redundant don't you think?

But even barring all that, I disagree with practically everything you've said thus far.
It's true, but I did this with other characters too in the first stages of the Tournament, for me who's going out next is one of the biggest points of the ToP, especially now we are on its closing episodes The curiosity skyrocketed
Many fans speculated that 17 would go down before Gohan and we all know how that turned out. :lol:

I don't care what you deem as the turning point. I was simply trying to convey how redundant it is when fans negatively scrutinize the same character over and over again while resorting to generic arguments like how so-and-so doing this and that would defy logic.
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Post by TheDipDap1234 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:22 pm

Remember that we still have to get that "cool" Vegeta moment Toshio was talking about, and the next episode is not written by Toshio so I highly doubt Vegeta is going anytime soon.
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Re: Do you think Vegeta will get eliminated next ?

Post by Kinokima » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:32 pm

Lapislettuce wrote: Exactly !! people still haven't learned that they won't spoil an elimination in the preview. they'd rather that be surprising. i don't know how Vegeta fans will take his elimination if it happens. i'm not sure he will of course but i feel like they don't even consider that being a possibilty. as for me a 17 fan it's not that i don't consider 17 being eliminated cuz he can get eliminated at this point at any moment but i don't feel like they will get him out without a bang like that person is alluding. seriously making someone who has been practically the face of the arc for U7 lose with a blast from Toppo like that sounds not right. ep 127 sounds more fitting to a 17 elimination as it sounds like he might do something affective that will lead to a possible elimination.

I haven't posted on this forum for a long time but you are wrong to assume its "Vegeta fans" who think it will be 17 next. I am one of the biggest Vegeta fans and I absolutely think that Vegeta could be knocked out in the next episode. I just hope if he is he will take out Toppo too because I disagree with you that he has done anything significant yet. I guess the most significant thing he has done is get a new power up which is nice and all but if he doesn't actually get to do anything with it that will be disappointing. As for his eliminations they were all mostly fodder. If he takes out Toppo then I'll be sad he is gone but satisfied than if he is just rung out by Toppo. And I don't really see the point of saving Toppo for someone else. Jiren will provide enough difficulty I think.


I think 17 could also possibly be next if its not Vegeta but then I 100% don't think he will be eliminated in 126 because if its not his focus episode then there is no way he will be. And you are right there is no way they will show someone getting knocked out in the preview.

Anyways I just wish people wouldn't label all fans the same way. I am sure all 17 fans don't think the same way either do Vegeta fans (Okay Vegeta is my favorite but I am quite fond of 17 too to be honest). In the end everyone wants their favorites to stay in for as long as possible and to do something significant before they go (although I am sure we all don't agree with what is significant).


As for Toshio's "cool Vegeta" episode mentioned above I am not actually convinced we will ever see it. There is always a chance that stuff was written for Super that won't ever be produced (but that's just the pessimist in me talking. Which is also why I do believe Vegeta has a high chance of being eliminated next episode).

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