sunsetshimmer wrote:Tai Lung wrote:
there is no GT vegito, they refer to vegito (z) and there is no proof that they refer to a hypothetical vegito GT
if we go by what is shown in the series there are 2 options
Goku says that the ki of baby (second form) is the most powerful one that has felt, if we take that literal would put him above super buu (gohan) but majuub can give a fight to a more powerful baby and ...
majuub = super buu = mr buu + uub / kid buu
the last option would fit with the guide
Vegito doesn't have fixed power level. DBZ Vegito, GT Vegito and DBS Vegito are not equal. The same goes for DBZ/DBGT/DBS Goku/Vegeta.
Guide clearly says that if Goku and Vegeta fuse and turn SSJ they will become stronger than SSJ4.
It's not description of previous events or anything like that. It doesn't say that they were stronger than SSJ4. It says how fusion work.
Nothing about certain version of Vegito and nothing about certain version of Goku, Vegeta nor SSJ4 (even though it obivously meant GT SSJ4 since there is no SSJ4 in DBZ)
They use DBZ Vegito picture because, as you said, there is no GT Vegito.
Magazines always use old pics.
Upcoming DBS episodes descriptions had thumnbnails from old episodes that weren't even related to upcoming EP in any way.
And Goku obviously felt Vegito's power. The same goes for Vegeta.
Baby had all his memories and he said that he has the greatest saiyan power. Goku confirmed that he never felt such huge ki.
Goku knew that Vegito wouldn't beat Beerus, so it pretty much confirms that Goku could tell that Baby is stronger than Vegito from Z.
Majuub is reincarnation of Super Buu in some way, but Uub alone seemed stronger than Kid Buu at this point.
Majuub was stronger than SSJ3 Goku, while base Goku could easily beat not only Rildo, who was stronger than Buu (not sure which Buu), but also SSJ Gohan.
So i'd say Majuub would be about equal to DBZ Vegito as well then (considering he forced Super Baby 2 to go full-power)
Also, Majuub destroyed Rildo in single ki blast.
If he was only equal to Super Buu, then i highly doubt he would destroy Rildo so easily, no matter which version of Buu they meant he is stronger than.
then there is no way to check it because it does not say that it is "currently"
Apart from how weird it would be to talk about something that does not happen in the series.
I already took that into account but vegito is very surprised that he is able to defeat buu so easily only using a tiny part of his power because if he does not know, goku and vegeta also no, just to what they showed even though logical
vegito (z) should be able to transform into ssj 2 and ssj3
"fusion logic" Gotenks ssj> goku ssj3 would not be at all odd that a vegito ssj3 exceeds a goku ssj4
In fact, I did not give the validation to the mention of goku in super but the author said that beerus> vegito (z) , that added to the feats they showed .. I'm not left in doubt
if we go alone for what is shown
super buu is mr buu + kid buu and they split
uub is the reincarnation of kid buu only after his training this should be his final level. now after his fusion with mr buu he would have at least the level of super buu there is no way to know that he has more
good rildo is not very consistent at first goku could not with it I force him to go to ssj,
then he is easily beaten by goku base, base trunks and pan
a gohan gives him problems, so no would know how to take the statement.
goku base and vegeta base do not look so different in power and vegeta could not defeat the android 17 in gt
Cetra wrote:"Only a Vegetto was seen in Z in the Boo arc" does not solve the problem that Vegetto in Z is not a plausible option as that makes even for Dragon Ball standards less sense and that the idea of Vegetto still exists in GT itself. Of course in GT he would be stronger. Same goes for Gotenks who STILL was not considered an option for Baby so much to the extent that Goku told them they should not fuse. It is interesting that you take Battle of Gods' statement as an example while we also know of Vegetto only during the Boo arc. Do you actually believe Goku in Battle of Gods refers to Vegetto with Boo arc power? You know they are stronger in Battle of Gods, right?
he would be stronger yeah, but no exist
goten and trunks stopped training and dedicated themselves to having a normal life so are not stronger, pff anyone who is at the level of gohan sns exceeds gotenks.
As I said, the beginning I did not consider it
in Battle of Gods goku and vegeta stopped training for peacetime in fact it is the reason why goku is going to train the planet of kaio to not lose condition