What do you think Goku was referring to?
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What do you think Goku was referring to?
Ok, this is a question of opinion, rather then fact--but recently this popped up between myself, and a few fans.
During the battle between Gohan and Dabura, Gohan is knocked into a lake, and Goku then makes the comment: "So he uses magic, huh?" This is a very simple question, here. And, like I said, it's a matter of opinion. What do you think Goku was referring to?
For years, and years, I thought he was referring to the after image Dabura had left behind, which had tricked Gohan. Although we have seen After Images used in similar ways before, it was always how long Dabura's hung around that made me think of it more as a "magical projection", rather then just a regular zanzoken type maneuver. I mean, in the panel when Dabura is floating behind Gohan, getting ready to shoot the fireball at him, you can see that the image of Dabura is still there, floating right next to Gohan.
I even had the nerve to think that this is what pretty much everybody else thought that Goku was referring to, also. But now, on another DB board, we are debating over what Goku was referring to, and a lot of people seem to think it was the fireball that Dabura shot Gohan with.
Their reasons for this are:
1. It didn't look like any ki blast we've ever seen before (it has a weird dark shape in the center)
2. Goku's comment about "So this is magic, huh?" comes RIGHT after this attack hit Gohan.
3. ... I forget if there was a third reason...
Anyway, what do you think Goku was referring to, or do you think he was just referring to Dabura in general, like the way he fights, period. Or maybe even his flame breath?
I've always thought it was the illusion... Curious to hear what others think. I want a wide array of opinions.
During the battle between Gohan and Dabura, Gohan is knocked into a lake, and Goku then makes the comment: "So he uses magic, huh?" This is a very simple question, here. And, like I said, it's a matter of opinion. What do you think Goku was referring to?
For years, and years, I thought he was referring to the after image Dabura had left behind, which had tricked Gohan. Although we have seen After Images used in similar ways before, it was always how long Dabura's hung around that made me think of it more as a "magical projection", rather then just a regular zanzoken type maneuver. I mean, in the panel when Dabura is floating behind Gohan, getting ready to shoot the fireball at him, you can see that the image of Dabura is still there, floating right next to Gohan.
I even had the nerve to think that this is what pretty much everybody else thought that Goku was referring to, also. But now, on another DB board, we are debating over what Goku was referring to, and a lot of people seem to think it was the fireball that Dabura shot Gohan with.
Their reasons for this are:
1. It didn't look like any ki blast we've ever seen before (it has a weird dark shape in the center)
2. Goku's comment about "So this is magic, huh?" comes RIGHT after this attack hit Gohan.
3. ... I forget if there was a third reason...
Anyway, what do you think Goku was referring to, or do you think he was just referring to Dabura in general, like the way he fights, period. Or maybe even his flame breath?
I've always thought it was the illusion... Curious to hear what others think. I want a wide array of opinions.
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Dabra's afterimage thing is called zanzou majutsu ('afterimage magic') in the daizenshuu, as opposed to the regular afterimage attack, which is zanzou ken. This would indicate that it is based on magic, and more than likely is what Goku was referring to.
edit: There's also that thing where Dabra pulls a sword out of nowhere, but I can't remember if that happened before or after Goku made the remark about magic.
edit: There's also that thing where Dabra pulls a sword out of nowhere, but I can't remember if that happened before or after Goku made the remark about magic.
I always understood it to be the flame breath and the fireball, the flame breath stood out to me most of all. I didn't notice the after image so much at first but, yes, does seem different. So, now I would guess that's it's all three equally and Goku was referring to the difference in the way he fights in general from other enemies.
Pulling the sword out from nowhere happened after he made that remark.
Pulling the sword out from nowhere happened after he made that remark.
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Er, I never looked into it much but I'm assuming it was based off of the energy Goku felt or something If anything, maybe there was a DragonBall throwback or something seeing how in DragonBall it was more "magical" compared to Z
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The sword came after Goku made the comment.Herms wrote:Dabra's afterimage thing is called zanzou majutsu ('afterimage magic') in the daizenshuu, as opposed to the regular afterimage attack, which is zanzou ken. This would indicate that it is based on magic, and more than likely is what Goku was referring to.
edit: There's also that thing where Dabra pulls a sword out of nowhere, but I can't remember if that happened before or after Goku made the remark about magic.
Thank you for this powerful reply, anyway. I'll certainly use it well on the other board. I win.