The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
KaiserNeko wrote:... I'm kind confused why anyone would even take their playthroughs that seriously? Part of the joke with the whole thing is that they *obviously* deflect their own incompetence onto things that don't deserve it.
Although they're all wrong and dumb if they think GT is better than Super.
While that's true, they do seem to genuinely dislike Goten, which I don't quite think is fair
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
I haven't really found a lot of enjoyment out of a lot of the recent TFS episodes, but I thought this one was pretty fun. Lot of fun humor I think involved, and honestly I think I prefer the vengeful Santa Claus approach rather than the actual vengeful Tuffle idea. All in all, a good episode.
My only real question is why the newer footage was used in contrast to using the original OVA. When comparing it to the other movies and the original TFS series, the old footage seems like it'd fit in much better to the general aesthetic versus the clearly newer Yamumuro version. I know Episode of Bardock is the same way, but that one sticks out too so I'm just a little naturally confused why not use the older version if it were to clearly fit in more? Regardless it's just a tone nitpick and doesn't detract from the actual writing of the episode, just puzzling since I don't personally get why. I'm assuming poor video quality of the original OVA, I guess.
Oh man, I'm really gonna need captions for this one. I couldn't make out half of what Raichi Santa said.
But other than that it was a really nice special. I especially loved the Tarble bit and the "VEGETA YESSSS!"
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MegaBossMan wrote:I haven't really found a lot of enjoyment out of a lot of the recent TFS episodes, but I thought this one was pretty fun. Lot of fun humor I think involved, and honestly I think I prefer the vengeful Santa Claus approach rather than the actual vengeful Tuffle idea. All in all, a good episode.
My only real question is why the newer footage was used in contrast to using the original OVA. When comparing it to the other movies and the original TFS series, the old footage seems like it'd fit in much better to the general aesthetic versus the clearly newer Yamumuro version. I know Episode of Bardock is the same way, but that one sticks out too so I'm just a little naturally confused why not use the older version if it were to clearly fit in more? Regardless it's just a tone nitpick and doesn't detract from the actual writing of the episode, just puzzling since I don't personally get why. I'm assuming poor video quality of the original OVA, I guess.
Probably because the newer animation's easier to work with than the original & that they could probably access it easier, due to it being in Raging Blast 2's extras, like how Episode of Bardock was on the disc for DBZ for Kinect, due to the main selling point being that you could play as Super Saiyan Bardock in that game. And since Lani had to suffer through RB2, you're damn right that they're gonna use its footage from that game's disc. Also, the original's only on the Japanese Dragon Boxes, so that might be a bit hard to come by. Plus, the animation in the remake's a lot better. I bet Kaiser had an easier time editing this one than he would've the original. Episode of Bardock also never had a version from the 90s, so bringing that up for comparison isn't really a thing that makes sense.
omegalucas wrote:Oh man, I'm really gonna need captions for this one. I couldn't make out half of what Raichi Santa said.
But other than that it was a really nice special. I especially loved the Tarble bit and the "VEGETA YESSSS!"
The majority of Vegeta's dialogue sounded like when Lani uses his Vegeta voice to make fun of the character on their gaming channel & it was great.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
MegaBossMan wrote:I haven't really found a lot of enjoyment out of a lot of the recent TFS episodes, but I thought this one was pretty fun. Lot of fun humor I think involved, and honestly I think I prefer the vengeful Santa Claus approach rather than the actual vengeful Tuffle idea. All in all, a good episode.
My only real question is why the newer footage was used in contrast to using the original OVA. When comparing it to the other movies and the original TFS series, the old footage seems like it'd fit in much better to the general aesthetic versus the clearly newer Yamumuro version. I know Episode of Bardock is the same way, but that one sticks out too so I'm just a little naturally confused why not use the older version if it were to clearly fit in more? Regardless it's just a tone nitpick and doesn't detract from the actual writing of the episode, just puzzling since I don't personally get why. I'm assuming poor video quality of the original OVA, I guess.
Probably because the newer animation's easier to work with than the original & that they could probably access it easier, due to it being in Raging Blast 2's extras, like how Episode of Bardock was on the disc for DBZ for Kinect, due to the main selling point being that you could play as Super Saiyan Bardock in that game. And since Lani had to suffer through RB2, you're damn right that they're gonna use its footage from that game's disc. Also, the original's only on the Japanese Dragon Boxes, so that might be a bit hard to come by. Plus, the animation in the remake's a lot better. I bet Kaiser had an easier time editing this one than he would've the original. Episode of Bardock also never had a version from the 90s, so bringing that up for comparison isn't really a thing that makes sense.
I brought up Episode of Bardock as standing out in the way that it's clearly not a Dragon Ball product in the same vein of the original animated run. It stands out because it's clearly a newer product, and that's where I feel my issue lies; if a viewer decided to binge-watch all of TFS's work, and in the run of DBZ episodes they ran into Episode of Bardock, it naturally stands out because it looks nothing like any of the other Dragon Ball work present in their channel. Now, there are instances where that's unavoidable; what other option would you have for a series like Super or the newer Dragon Ball films? But, as of present, those newer products like Episode of Bardock just demonstrate a bit of unfortunate and unavoidable inconsistency in a whole line of work that's marked by older animation. That's why I'm questioning the usage of the newer footage; why use something that does stand out, when you have the option to use something more in line for what viewers are accustomed to? It's somewhat comparable to the use of CGI in those older Star Wars films: the CGI, depending on the person at least, has the ability to take the viewer out of their immersion into their viewing when everything else surrounding it doesn't mesh into it seamlessly. Now, the instance here isn't necessarily bad like what occurred in a film like Star Wars, and quite honestly I'm aware no one reasonably cares because the comedy is designed to be the focus. I just had a constant underlying thought watching the special that pestered throughout, especially since the option of the older animation WAS there. Still, as a whole, it frankly doesn't matter. I understand that the TFS staff clearly had an obvious reason for it, and that outweighs whatever issues I could feasibly have about style consistency.
Loved it. Though I thought Gohan was a good boy deemed by Santa, so why was he pummeled?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:Loved it. Though I thought Gohan was a good boy deemed by Santa, so why was he pummeled?
I thought of that too. I guess maybe because he started fighting against Santa's plan? Best guess I've got anyway.
Great special as I expected it would be, wasn't expecting the Santa spin put on it though. Was great seeing the old villains back again actually too, albeit briefly. Especially finally having Freeza and Cooler together in one thing. Got to say though, my favorite part of the video wasn't even one of the jokes - I loved the Tsuru tribute at the end. It hadn't occurred to me, but...this is the first Abridged material put out since her passing, so it fits, and fits all the better given that Bulma has a moment of helping out and kind of saving the day (partially) in this one. It was just also an especially sweet thing to see pop up on Christmas too.
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dbzfan7 wrote:Loved it. Though I thought Gohan was a good boy deemed by Santa, so why was he pummeled?
I thought of that too. I guess maybe because he started fighting against Santa's plan? Best guess I've got anyway.
Great special as I expected it would be, wasn't expecting the Santa spin put on it though. Was great seeing the old villains back again actually too, albeit briefly. Especially finally having Freeza and Cooler together in one thing. Got to say though, my favorite part of the video wasn't even one of the jokes - I loved the Tsuru tribute at the end. It hadn't occurred to me, but...this is the first Abridged material put out since her passing, so it fits, and fits all the better given that Bulma has a moment of helping out and kind of saving the day (partially) in this one. It was just also an especially sweet thing to see pop up on Christmas too.
Should have just edited out the parts where he got hit, and then get coaxed into fighting maybe. Would be funny if he just stood on the sides for a while because he didn't have to fight.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
That special is amazing. I prefer this kind of off-the-wall humour compared to the main parody, and this had a lot of great lines. Raichi/Hatchiyack as Santa is so perfect.
Too many good lines for me to point out my favourite, though I really liked the boxing day gag.
Anyway, on that GT vs Super discussion - GT sucks and is still better than Super. See, everyone can be happy!
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Didn't Santa show up (outline of him) to cheer on Goku against Tullece... Cheering on an enemy to defeat another enemy? Just put Goku on the naughty list this year?
(They also have Santa say he always got shot at when going to planet Vegeta in Christmas Tree of Might)
Loved this special, LittleKuriboh's Freeza is such a treat, especially now we finally get him interacting with his brother. And Gohan's reaction his Christmas present was precious.
That was a hoot. I loved the meta jokes ("space-time continuum" and the Super advert), and especially appreciated the little instrumental piano version of "The Night Santa Went Crazy" during the credits.