True Dat.AzuraRacon wrote:Well, unless you count getting the first episode of DBZA flagged8000 Saiyan wrote:Plus, AB Group hasn't done anything with Dragon Ball after so many years.
Now what if Ocean does Super????
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True Dat.AzuraRacon wrote:Well, unless you count getting the first episode of DBZA flagged8000 Saiyan wrote:Plus, AB Group hasn't done anything with Dragon Ball after so many years.
That's a theory that has been tossed around. Hopefully this time they'll be sure to actually get a TV deal before paying for an entire dub only to find out that nobody's interested.simtek34 wrote:Now what if Ocean does Super????
I don't think the BoG arc qualifies as spoilers because the movie has been out for almost 4 years now.Robo4900 wrote:(Dragon Ball Super spoilers ahead, although it's the Battle Of Gods arc)
I would love to hear Brian Drummond doing his rage scene from the Battle Of Gods arc in the episode where Beerus hits Bulma. Obviously, it wouldn't be quite as insane as he would have done things back in '96, but I imagine his wrath is still pretty impressive.
Although honestly, I wouldn't count on an Ocean dub of Super. It'd be nice, and I wouldn't totally discount it, but I don't think it's likely.
This fandub is probably the closest thing you'll ever get.Robo4900 wrote: I would love to hear Brian Drummond doing his rage scene from the Battle Of Gods arc in the episode where Beerus hits Bulma.
Yeah, thus why I said "Although it's the BoG arc." I think there are probably some people out there who haven't seen it and are holding off until we get the Super dub, but those people are probably few and far between. Still, there's basically no effort required to put a quick "BTW, this post contains spoilers for this thing" at the beginning of a post, so IMO it's worth doing since Super hasn't aired in English yet.Dbzfan94 wrote:I don't think the BoG arc qualifies as spoilers because the movie has been out for almost 4 years now.
That sounds more like his Blue Water voice IMO.NitroEX wrote:This fandub is probably the closest thing you'll ever get.
Which, if you arent into this stuff, was a literal non-union Ocean replacement voice-match, not too far off from this fandub itself. Blue Water has voice-matched Ocean Group VA's in several cheaper productions, like the English dub of Rockman.EXE 5 Double Soul for Nintendo DS.Robo4900 wrote:Yeah, thus why I said "Although it's the BoG arc." I think there are probably some people out there who haven't seen it and are holding off until we get the Super dub, but those people are probably few and far between. Still, there's basically no effort required to put a quick "BTW, this post contains spoilers for this thing" at the beginning of a post, so IMO it's worth doing since Super hasn't aired in English yet.Dbzfan94 wrote:I don't think the BoG arc qualifies as spoilers because the movie has been out for almost 4 years now.
That sounds more like his Blue Water voice IMO.NitroEX wrote:This fandub is probably the closest thing you'll ever get.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯Robo4900 wrote: That sounds more like his Blue Water voice IMO.
Speaking of Sabat & Rhodes...both of these guys were basically replacements for Drummond. I don't know what the issue of a fandub (which is what Season 3 is) sounding like replacement VA's would be. Although I can probably get annoying yammering on this subject.NitroEX wrote:¯\_(ツ)_/¯Robo4900 wrote: That sounds more like his Blue Water voice IMO.
I personally don't think he sounds like Roger Rhodes. Keep in mind you're never going to find a truly perfect impersonation so it's good enough in my opinion and his screams are top notch. I doubt Sabat will be able to top that in the official dub.
Yes of course, however the Ocean Cast had no say in the scripts, that was still all done by FUNi (and of course given the guidelines by Saban), the Ocean Group are very capable at producing great dubs as seen in Death Note, and hell even the Pioneer movies as you stated yourself. Which is of course why I am very adamant for Ocean Kai to be released as it would be under an accurate script.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:Speaking of Sabat & Rhodes...both of these guys were basically replacements for Drummond. I don't know what the issue of a fandub (which is what Season 3 is) sounding like replacement VA's would be. Although I can probably get annoying yammering on this subject.NitroEX wrote:¯\_(ツ)_/¯Robo4900 wrote: That sounds more like his Blue Water voice IMO.
I personally don't think he sounds like Roger Rhodes. Keep in mind you're never going to find a truly perfect impersonation so it's good enough in my opinion and his screams are top notch. I doubt Sabat will be able to top that in the official dub.
That being said, you seem to have a general "thing" going for the Ocean dub of DB, FWR. I mean I appreciate Cole, Brown (lol Cole Brown), & McNeil's work, as well as the Pioneer dubs...the Ocean dub, in itself?...is still mostly the same thing as the later infamous in-house dub...just with professional, veteran AAA VA's. It's comparable to Voltron, whereas the later dubs were more Robotech in their budget. From the perspective of Dragon Ball being (for the most part) Japanese-only...wouldnt we consider the Ocean dub, just as illegimiate as the later FUNi dubs?
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The castings themselves were miscast, as they were cast to misrepresent the characters. They had no creator contact & no access to the original audio, which is like a basic sticking point of almost any dub. Even 4Kids did better than that. I can imagine that Toei didnt respect Fukunaga & his squad, compared to Saban who were a decent-size company. & Nintendo simply used 4Kids as a venue for their own produced Pokemon dub.thomas1up wrote:Yes of course, however the Ocean Cast had no say in the scripts, that was still all done by FUNi (and of course given the guidelines by Saban), the Ocean Group are very capable at producing great dubs as seen in Death Note, and hell even the Pioneer movies as you stated yourself. Which is of course why I am very adamant for Ocean Kai to be released as it would be under an accurate script.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:Speaking of Sabat & Rhodes...both of these guys were basically replacements for Drummond. I don't know what the issue of a fandub (which is what Season 3 is) sounding like replacement VA's would be. Although I can probably get annoying yammering on this subject.NitroEX wrote: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I personally don't think he sounds like Roger Rhodes. Keep in mind you're never going to find a truly perfect impersonation so it's good enough in my opinion and his screams are top notch. I doubt Sabat will be able to top that in the official dub.
That being said, you seem to have a general "thing" going for the Ocean dub of DB, FWR. I mean I appreciate Cole, Brown (lol Cole Brown), & McNeil's work, as well as the Pioneer dubs...the Ocean dub, in itself?...is still mostly the same thing as the later infamous in-house dub...just with professional, veteran AAA VA's. It's comparable to Voltron, whereas the later dubs were more Robotech in their budget. From the perspective of Dragon Ball being (for the most part) Japanese-only...wouldnt we consider the Ocean dub, just as illegimiate as the later FUNi dubs?
Staying on your subject point though, a good deal of the enjoyment for the Ocean Dub of Z, is that the actors are phenomanal when they get the right direction, and in some cases it's undoubatly nostalgia, as for a lot of people THESE are the voices they grew with and the FUNi voices will always be a replacement (especially if you live in the UK in which the Funi Dub only aried for 54-107, or Canada in which it ended somewhere in the middle of the Cell Saga).
Yeah, I get your point. The voice actors were miscast to you because they didn't imitate the Japanese voices.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:The castings themselves were miscast, as they were cast to misrepresent the characters. They had no creator contact & no access to the original audio, which is like a basic sticking point of almost any dub. Even 4Kids did better than that. I can imagine that Toei didnt respect Fukunaga & his squad, compared to Saban who were a decent-size company. & Nintendo simply used 4Kids as a venue for their own produced Pokemon dub.thomas1up wrote:Yes of course, however the Ocean Cast had no say in the scripts, that was still all done by FUNi (and of course given the guidelines by Saban), the Ocean Group are very capable at producing great dubs as seen in Death Note, and hell even the Pioneer movies as you stated yourself. Which is of course why I am very adamant for Ocean Kai to be released as it would be under an accurate script.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:
Speaking of Sabat & Rhodes...both of these guys were basically replacements for Drummond. I don't know what the issue of a fandub (which is what Season 3 is) sounding like replacement VA's would be. Although I can probably get annoying yammering on this subject.
That being said, you seem to have a general "thing" going for the Ocean dub of DB, FWR. I mean I appreciate Cole, Brown (lol Cole Brown), & McNeil's work, as well as the Pioneer dubs...the Ocean dub, in itself?...is still mostly the same thing as the later infamous in-house dub...just with professional, veteran AAA VA's. It's comparable to Voltron, whereas the later dubs were more Robotech in their budget. From the perspective of Dragon Ball being (for the most part) Japanese-only...wouldnt we consider the Ocean dub, just as illegimiate as the later FUNi dubs?
Staying on your subject point though, a good deal of the enjoyment for the Ocean Dub of Z, is that the actors are phenomanal when they get the right direction, and in some cases it's undoubatly nostalgia, as for a lot of people THESE are the voices they grew with and the FUNi voices will always be a replacement (especially if you live in the UK in which the Funi Dub only aried for 54-107, or Canada in which it ended somewhere in the middle of the Cell Saga).
It's not a matter of the literal "sound" of the VA's. It would be silly to say "eh, Jamieson Price is slightly less deep than Akio Otsuka, screw the Fate/0 & Berserk 2016 dub". I also respect cultural differences in casting, like getting a young-voiced man to play a female part. It's the matter of the reason they were cast, & the differences between them. I don't appreciate the way Toei entirely outsourced the localization of DB, as if they didnt care what others did, & just wanted the money. I dont blame FUNi for doing what they had to do.8000 Saiyan wrote:Yeah, I get your point. The voice actors were miscast to you because they didn't imitate the Japanese voices.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:The castings themselves were miscast, as they were cast to misrepresent the characters. They had no creator contact & no access to the original audio, which is like a basic sticking point of almost any dub. Even 4Kids did better than that. I can imagine that Toei didnt respect Fukunaga & his squad, compared to Saban who were a decent-size company. & Nintendo simply used 4Kids as a venue for their own produced Pokemon dub.thomas1up wrote:
Yes of course, however the Ocean Cast had no say in the scripts, that was still all done by FUNi (and of course given the guidelines by Saban), the Ocean Group are very capable at producing great dubs as seen in Death Note, and hell even the Pioneer movies as you stated yourself. Which is of course why I am very adamant for Ocean Kai to be released as it would be under an accurate script.
Staying on your subject point though, a good deal of the enjoyment for the Ocean Dub of Z, is that the actors are phenomanal when they get the right direction, and in some cases it's undoubatly nostalgia, as for a lot of people THESE are the voices they grew with and the FUNi voices will always be a replacement (especially if you live in the UK in which the Funi Dub only aried for 54-107, or Canada in which it ended somewhere in the middle of the Cell Saga).
I have no idea who razorlikeblue is. And no offense, but you seem to contradict yourself a lot.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:It's not a matter of the literal "sound" of the VA's. It would be silly to say "eh, Jamieson Price is slightly less deep than Akio Otsuka, screw the Fate/0 & Berserk 2016 dub". I also respect cultural differences in casting, like getting a young-voiced man to play a female part. It's the matter of the reason they were cast, & the differences between them. I don't appreciate the way Toei entirely outsourced the localization of DB, as if they didnt care what others did, & just wanted the money. I dont blame FUNi for doing what they had to do.
I want to watch something knowing that the people who made the thing, chose the people who represent the characters. It's not an issue with 95% of Viz, Aniplex, Capcom, Square Enix, Bandai, Geneon, Sony, Nintendo (including the Pokemon dubs), the FUNi One Piece dub, Konami (eh...), hell even the 4Kids One Piece dub had decent castings, done by Toei themselves (a decent light in the incoherent mess that is the OP 4Kids dub).
DB is no exception just because everyone saw that cast growing up - my understanding of FUNi's business decisions aside. Also are you "razorlikeblue"?
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I tried to understand his stance soooo hard, but I dont get it and I dont think I ever will...but he said the Mexican dub is god tier so he's aces for me! Aguante Ahmed!
...That means Hooray Ahmed!
psst, hint: Sometimes I'm being ironic to prove a point because maybe I'm mad about something? Would someone who truly didnt care..look up these things in the first place? Do Jinzoningen, gravitypriest, Hujio, Herms, Meri, Rach, Cipher, EX (obviously not trying to be rude here - these guys contribute tremendously to proper DB understanding in general, dubs aside) profess things like union/non-union rates, VA union status/living arrangements, or heck, bring up the fact that DB dub VA's are incredibly underpaid, etc., in the first place?8000 Saiyan wrote:you seem to contradict yourself a lot.
Do you really think it's that important to know who is union and who's non-union? And even if the voice actors are underpaid, I'm sure they have a great life.huzaifa_ahmed wrote:Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I tried to understand his stance soooo hard, but I dont get it and I dont think I ever will...but he said the Mexican dub is god tier so he's aces for me! Aguante Ahmed!
...That means Hooray Ahmed!psst, hint: Sometimes I'm being ironic to prove a point because maybe I'm mad about something? Would someone who truly didnt care..look up these things in the first place? Do Jinzoningen, gravitypriest, Hujio, Herms, Meri, Rach, Cipher, EX (obviously not trying to be rude here - these guys contribute tremendously to proper DB understanding in general, dubs aside) profess things like union/non-union rates, VA union status/living arrangements, or heck, bring up the fact that DB dub VA's are incredibly underpaid, etc., in the first place?8000 Saiyan wrote:you seem to contradict yourself a lot.
I guess I try to make a point, but the sarcasm is clearly not "subtly apparent", & I end up just annoying fellow dub fans. ugh. I am a terrible troll.
What do I "contradict myself" on? (Not that I disagree w/you)