Can Namekian fusion only be used on and by warrior-types?

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Can Namekian fusion only be used on and by warrior-types?

Post by Angelus » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:01 pm

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Dragon-B ... 295/page-2

In the manga, Nail said that he was the only warrior-type Namekian on the planet shortly before fusing with Piccolo. In the Kai anime, Nail says "a proud tradition dies with me. Join with me and our people's warrior-class will survive in you."

Does any of this imply that only warrior-type Namekians are able to perform this?

Even after everyone that was killed by Frieza and his henchmen were revived by the dragon balls, Piccolo (who now has Nail's knowledge) never tried to fuse with any Namekian to help out Goku fight Frieza. Although, at this point it was no longer needed because Goku was already a Super Saiyan and writer-wise, it would kill the intensity of the story if it's Goku and Piccolo who killed Frieza. Goku also likes a challenge.

Also, all Namekians in those villages that were slaughtered by either Frieza or Vegeta never tried to do a fusion in an attempt to save their village. Remember, this wasn't a killing rampage that Frieza and Vegeta went on. They needed these Namekians to be alive for some amount of time so that they can be interrogated about the dragon balls. Any Namekian not speaking to Frieza or Vegeta had enough time to fuse among themselves after they feel that Frieza and Vegeta were evil. None of them tried to do it even when their brothers were being killed in front of them by Frieza's henchmen. Nope, not the old ones that would be more knowledgeable, or the young adult ones that are still robust, or even the kids. Heck, the village that Vegeta slaughtered had lots of young adult Namekians and old ones around. None of them tried to fuse after seeing Vegeta starting to kill people.

Seems like this Namekian fusion is only exclusively done on and performed by warrior-type Namekians like Nail and Piccolo. What are your thoughts? This could also dispel some of the fanfiction that suggests that if all Namekians merged, they could have beaten 100% final form Frieza.
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Re: Can Namekian fusion only be used on and by warrior-types

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:03 pm

I'm preeeeetty sure that one of the guidebooks notes that Namekian fusion can only be performed between two Namekians of the same type (with Kami being the exception because he and Piccolo were already linked). I'd have to double-check though.
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Post by Angelus » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:07 pm

Kaboom wrote:I'm preeeeetty sure that one of the guidebooks notes that Namekian fusion can only be performed between two Namekians of the same type (with Kami being the exception because he and Piccolo were already linked). I'd have to double-check though.
So two dragon-type Namekians like Dende and Moori or Guru can also fuse then? Or even just the plain Namekians like those gardener villagers... can also fuse then? Not all Namekians are dragon-type or warrior-type.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:52 pm

Angelus wrote:Or even just the plain Namekians like those gardener villagers... can also fuse then? Not all Namekians are dragon-type or warrior-type.
Actually, I think they are. The Daizenshu list out the population of the Namekian villages, and all the members are classified as either Dragon Clan or Warrior Clan.
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Post by Angelus » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:01 pm

But didn't Dende say that not everyone was a warrior or a healer? At least in Kai. Not sure if Dende or any Namekian besides Nail mentioned anything about Namek classes in the manga.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:10 pm

He may have said that (I haven't seen Kai), but it's possible he just meant that not all Dragon Clan members have the same abilities.

Here is what the Daizenshu had to say:

Namekian Organization
The seven elders protect the Dragon Balls and their villages.
The Namekians make offerings to their gigantic Dragon Balls as if they were protective gods. The elders, beginning with the Eldest, serve the role of protectors and defend against their misuse from outside invaders. Apart from the elder, in each village there are several warrior-type Namekians to serve as bodyguards. The chart is of the relationships between them as well as Kami, who came to Earth 300~400 years ago, and Daimao.

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Post by Angelus » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:15 pm

That is strange. Because in Kai, Guru told Freeza that Nail was not like the rest of the peaceful Namekians that Frieza slaughtered. And that Nail was stronger, being a warrior-type. I should read the manga version of that scene.

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Post by Herms » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:05 pm

Angelus wrote:But didn't Dende say that not everyone was a warrior or a healer?
In the manga before the 25th tournament, Dende tells Gohan he won't participate because "I'm not a warrior type", which Viz slightly alters to "some Namekians are fighters, others are healers" (something like that, anyway). In the original version though, there's never any talk of "healer" Namekians. Dende is a Dragon Clan Namekian, as stated when Goku picks hom up before the Cell Games; he has the ability to heal people, but it's not his type, any more than Piccolo is an Arm Stretcher Namekian.

In the manga it's not really specified what the deal is with which Namekians are what type, but only Nail and Piccolo are specifically referred to as Warrior Type, and it's implied that Nail was the only one on the planet until Piccolo showed up. And only the child of Katatz (ie the eventual God of Earth), Dende, the Great Elder, and Muri are specified as Dragon Clan. Actually, I'm not sure if the Great Elder or Muri are specifically said to be, but they obviously can create dragon balls, which only the Dragon Clan are supposed to do.

The daizenshuu position is that all Namekians on Namek at the time of the Freeza arc are either Warrior Type or Dragon Clan, with most of the population being Dragon Clan. So there are no "plain" Namekians, and those three guys Dodoria killed were all Warrior Type. Then on Earth there's Piccolo's Demon Clan spawn, who are some kind of mutant breed created as of result of the original Piccolo being literally born from evil.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:21 pm

So then Gast Carcolh in DBM would be impossible? :(
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Post by Herms » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:37 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:So then Gast Carcolh in DBM would be impossible? :(
I don't know what/who that is.

Still, it's a fan manga. I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want in a fan manga.
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Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:46 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:So then Gast Carcolh in DBM would be impossible? :(
Yeah, but it wouldn't be the first time a fanwork has ignored or just been unaware of a detail like this. Like when I wrote GTR: Cataclysm, I wasn't aware that Warrior-types apparently can't reproduce, and that resulted in a few problems in retrospect. It happens.
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Re: Can Namekian fusion only be used on and by warrior-types

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:32 pm

Herms wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:So then Gast Carcolh in DBM would be impossible? :(
I don't know what/who that is.

Still, it's a fan manga. I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want in a fan manga.
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Post by Angelus » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:36 pm

I was wondering if anyone else had more input of this. I'm resurrecting this topic. Goku and friends resurrect stuff all the time.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:47 pm

I don't know why though. I'm pretty sure everything that can be said in regards to answering your questions has already been said.
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Post by Angelus » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:23 pm

Herms wrote:The daizenshuu position is that all Namekians on Namek at the time of the Freeza arc are either Warrior Type or Dragon Clan, with most of the population being Dragon Clan. So there are no "plain" Namekians, and those three guys Dodoria killed were all Warrior Type. Then on Earth there's Piccolo's Demon Clan spawn, who are some kind of mutant breed created as of result of the original Piccolo being literally born from evil.
In theory, would this mean that all those Dragon-type Namekians could fuse together, since they're all the same type? And then separately, all the other Warrior-type Namekians fuse together as well. So you could end up with two Namekian: a fusion of all Warior-type Namekians and another one, a fusion of all Dragon-type Namekians?

Or only the Warrior-type can fuse with other Warrior-types?

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