Goku's Feats

[Bullza]

Went through the effort of posting scan that was asked for, two shit's weren't given.

[Hitiro]

Wait, really? Can I see the roshi scan?

If true, this is hilarious, as wonder woman, someone who has faster combat speed than the flash, is defined by one of her top combat speed feats, deflecting machine gun bullets. (Though she was blindfolded)

Off topic but how has Wonder Woman got a faster combat speed than the Flash who's reaction time and speed are all dictated by the Speed Force which basically makes him as fast as he wants? He can exceed the speed of light with relative ease and can stop instantly at whatever speed he is moving due to how the Speed Force works. He has a punch which has infinite mass due to throwing it at the speed of light which knocks out white Martians.

^Here Wonder Woman admits she would be destroyed by Barry Allen because he is so fast.

Back on topic however. The "planets" that Beerus destroyed, do they really need to blow up? The "planets" are relatively small so I would assume that their cores wouldn't lead to the same destruction as out planet. They probably didn't explode because they have little to no core? I feel the same way about Kaio's planet not being destroyed. It is also a relatively small planet. From what I recall from the movie it is smaller than the original? Or is it smaller than the one Beerus destroyed? Anyway, I doubt the core to the planet is significant enough to warrant an explosion on any scale.

[Rocketman]

The cores of most rocky planets are nickel-iron. Nickel-iron does not explode, it is in fact incredibly stable.

[The Monkey King]

Went through the effort of posting scan that was asked for, two shit's weren't given.

I appreciate the scans bruh

As for some more feats, Toriyama stated that the Galactic patrol force were only capable of taking on saiyans when they were children:

What was the Galactic Patrol doing when Raditz and then Vegeta were attacking Earth?

Akira: Even though they're called the Galactic Patrol, they only stand a chance against Saiyans when they're children, and the Extinction Bomb doesn't work on them. Naturally, they have no choice but to turn a blind eye to people like Freeza.

So, an average saiyan child >= Jaco , yet he could easily:

Lift his spaceship:

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Kill a huge underwater beast with one blow:

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Lift and throw a large tide breaker:

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Catching a bullet:

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So this gives some more insight as to how strong saiyan children are.

[Kaboom]

Goku had physical strength feats just as impressive if not more so as a kid... and he was considered weaker than average for a Saiyan, not even breaching a power level of 500 by the time he was an adult. So Jaco could very well have a power level of 1000 or so, but still be too weak to beat the average adult Saiyan, if we take Raditz's 1,500 as an indication of "average."

[White Oni]

^Here Wonder Woman admits she would be destroyed by Barry Allen because he is so fast.

He's far faster than her in linear speed, no where near her in terms of combat speed.

Here's just a few examples.

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Here she even tells the flash to give it his all because he's too slow for her Even why she's being attacked by so many other people. BTW, she's blindfolded.

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Notice that her deflecting a bullet from a small firearm is a greater feat here than fighting the flash at his best...

This is because combat speeds in the DC universe aren't absolutely stupid like they are in the DBZ universe. Doing something like catching a bullet is an intense feat to DC superheros. Sure, a lot of people have extremely fast linear speed but this is mostly due to the fact that authors wanted to be able to have characters fly from place to place at really high speeds, it exists for plot purposes, is what I'm saying pretty much. It's true that the flash has the Infinite mass punch, and so does Supes, but neither can use such a punch from a standing position, both need to build up great momentum, which takes time, and then they need be extremely careful with aiming it because they're either flying or running at such high speeds that they can miss.

To DBZ characters on the other hand, catching bullets was childs play to roshi...

Anyways, this really shouldn't be a shock to anyone that knows AT, Dr.Slump showed us that he was aware of comic book heroes and took a liking to showing them up and making them look silly.

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[DBZGTKOSDH]

Except he completely shattered those planets into dust

A planet can't be completely shattered into dust. It's like shattering an active bomb into dust, it's illogical.

Notice how no debris from those planets fell onto the temple

That's because there was nothing left of those planets because brerus completely destroyed them

Or, because he didn't destroy them.

Besides it was confirmed he destroyed those planets

Where?

[Rocketman]

Except he completely shattered those planets into dust

A planet can't be completely shattered into dust. It's like shattering an active bomb into dust, it's illogical.

Planets are not bombs. A solid rocky planet like the Moon or Mars could absolutely be shattered into dust.

[KentalSSJ6]

Except he completely shattered those planets into dust

A planet can't be completely shattered into dust. It's like shattering an active bomb into dust, it's illogical.

Planets are not bombs. A solid rocky planet like the Moon or Mars could absolutely be shattered into dust.

You actually see how the moon was formed in Neil Degrasse Tyson's version of cosmos. Not sure if I remember correctly but its just made up of debris of earth and asteroids that collided into the planet billions of years ago.

[Saiyan007]

Except he completely shattered those planets into dust

A planet can't be completely shattered into dust. It's like shattering an active bomb into dust, it's illogical.

Notice how no debris from those planets fell onto the temple

That's because there was nothing left of those planets because brerus completely destroyed them

Or, because he didn't destroy them.

Besides it was confirmed he destroyed those planets

Where?

They're called "planets" (星/hoshi) in Chouzenshuu 4's entry on "wasabi

So yes he destroyed those planets

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Planets are not bombs. A solid rocky planet like the Moon or Mars could absolutely be shattered into dust.

Didn't think of that...

So yes he destroyed those planets

Is Herms talking about what he saw in the movie, or he is talking about stuff from Chozenshuu #4?

[goku the krump dancer]

So yes he destroyed those planets

Is Herms talking about what he saw in the movie, or he is talking about stuff from Chozenshuu #4?

What's the difference?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

So yes he destroyed those planets

Is Herms talking about what he saw in the movie, or he is talking about stuff from Chozenshuu #4?

What's the difference?

Huge. If it's the first, it's the interpretation of a fan. If it's the second, it's an officially established fact.

[Hitiro]

He's far faster than her in linear speed, no where near her in terms of combat speed.

Here's just a few examples.

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Here she even tells the flash to give it his all because he's too slow for her Even why she's being attacked by so many other people. BTW, she's blindfolded.

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Notice that her deflecting a bullet from a small firearm is a greater feat here than fighting the flash at his best...

This is because combat speeds in the DC universe aren't absolutely stupid like they are in the DBZ universe. Doing something like catching a bullet is an intense feat to DC superheros. Sure, a lot of people have extremely fast linear speed but this is mostly due to the fact that authors wanted to be able to have characters fly from place to place at really high speeds, it exists for plot purposes, is what I'm saying pretty much. It's true that the flash has the Infinite mass punch, and so does Supes, but neither can use such a punch from a standing position, both need to build up great momentum, which takes time, and then they need be extremely careful with aiming it because they're either flying or running at such high speeds that they can miss.

I'm sorry but, apart from the original example her combat speed isn't even tested. The second example she just catches him with a clothesline. It wasn't even on purpose. The last one about the Flash being slower than her is also inaccurate. It never says that. In fact, Batman confirms he is faster than her. But she just compensates against Flash's speed by being one step ahead of him by using the air currents around her to feel for when he is coming for her. If you notice something coming then you can respond faster than your combat speed because you throw your attack early.

A small firearm is really not a greater feat than being able to fight against Flash.

The first image could also be explained as she knew where he would be ahead of time because all he was doing was running in circles around her. So she doesn't need to have a faster combat speed than the Flash. We also don't know if Flash is going all out in that image. Proof of Flash's combat speed is in the original image I linked. He could hit Wonder Woman thousands, even millions, of times before she could do anything back. For her to be above Flash's combat speed she would need to be able to do that to herself as the definition of combat speed is how fast you throw your attacks. It's your offensive speed. And as such the person with the fastest combat speed will always be the Flash unless someone comes along with equal offensive speed.

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^ And the Flash doesn't need to be travelling in a straight line to go fast. Neither does he need any startup time to hit ridiculous speeds. The Speed Force allows him to go in any direction at any speed he desires whenever he wants. Testing Blue Supes speed they race around the world in milliseconds and the only reason Blue Supes beats him in one panel is because he saves a kid which still only cost him a millisecond of a time loss.

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^And he saves a half a million Koreans from a Nuke in 100 picoseconds. Travelling at speeds near light-speed. Which would also mean not travelling in a single line and instantaneously stopping and running at max speed again.

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^He also learns everything to rebuild a bridge and rebuilds it in 30 seconds.

So yeah, I really don't think that Wonder Woman can compete in-terms of combat speed or travel speed.

The cores of most rocky planets are nickel-iron. Nickel-iron does not explode, it is in fact incredibly stable.

What makes them explode then exactly?

[Rocketman]

^And he saves a half a million Koreans from a Nuke in 100 picoseconds. Travelling at speeds near light-speed. Which would also mean not travelling in a single line and instantaneously stopping and running at max speed again.

Light isn't that fast.

What makes them explode then exactly?

Planets don't explode.

[Herms]

So yes he destroyed those planets

Is Herms talking about what he saw in the movie, or he is talking about stuff from Chozenshuu #4?

It's a paraphrased translation of the Chouzenshuu 4 item dictionary entry on "wasabi". The entry describes Beerus as "destroying several planets" after being overcome by the wasabi's taste.

[Hitiro]

Light isn't that fast.

Must have been some bad Math on the Authors side then.

Planets don't explode.

If that's the case I don't see an issue with what happened to the planets Beerus smashed through.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

So yes he destroyed those planets

Is Herms talking about what he saw in the movie, or he is talking about stuff from Chozenshuu #4?

It's a paraphrased translation of the Chouzenshuu 4 item dictionary entry on "wasabi". The entry describes Beerus as "destroying several planets" after being overcome by the wasabi's taste.

I see...

OK then, I give up. Beerus destroyed these planets.

... And wouldn't that make him stronger than Superman?

[dario03]

Light isn't that fast.

Must have been some bad Math on the Authors side then.

Really Bad math since light would need to be at least 8,000,000,000,000x faster for that to work.
Could work if we assume light is faster in DC. Though I would bet that they have listed the speed of light before.

[KentalSSJ6]

... And wouldn't that make him stronger than Superman?

*Readies a tape gun*

You shall not open that can of worms.