Why does super saiyan God exist
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Why does super saiyan God exist
Ok so Oozaru is some sort of special battle transformation and super saiyan is a mutation that allows them to raise their battle power, but why does super saiyan God even exist? It's achieved through such random means. A specific number of good hearted Saiyans join hands and presto? Why though?
Also the pure hearted ritual thing was just cheesy.
Also the pure hearted ritual thing was just cheesy.
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
Because the Saiyans have a huge amount of potential in pulling out new forms out of their asses and so they figured maybe they'd create a new form by combining the power of the remaining Saiyans, which happened to be 6 and that was just the right amount of Saiyans required, because it just was.
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It's a special ritual that transforms the righteous into the divine.
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Out of Universe reason is to sell merchandise. We haven't had a new SSj form since SSj4 and SSj4 was 16 years before BOG. They needed something new, fresh and relevant given that SSj4 is a thing in the past outside of the video games.
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
At least SS4 combined 2 pre-existing transformations owned by the Saiyans, Super Saiyan and Oozaru, to make a new ultimate transformation. Super Saiyan God is literally just a random ass pull that is brought forth through an absurd ritual with no significance or explanation to why it makes Saiyans gods.Hellspawn28 wrote:Out of Universe reason is to sell merchandise. We haven't had a new SSj form since SSj4 and SSj4 was 16 years before BOG. They needed something new, fresh and relevant given that SSj4 is a thing in the past outside of the video games.
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
Why do Oozaru, SSJ1, SSJ2, or SSJ3 exist? Why do any transformations exist? They just do.
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
unexplained lore, though will try in my LN
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Well, Vegeta didn't follow those "Random means" to achieve the God form as he did it on his own. So, it seems it can be done naturally by training.
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Because they are battle transformations but Super Saiyan God doesn't just raise your ki level it turns your ki into god ki and is created through a ritual. Why though why do Saiyans have such a thing in their DNA? Doesn't make sense without a good explanation.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Why do Oozaru, SSJ1, SSJ2, or SSJ3 exist? Why do any transformations exist? They just do.
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
If you need every single last thing explained to you, you're going to have a difficult time with the larger world of fiction. Sometimes things just are because they are. They came up with it, they executed on it, and there it is.
We also don't have an explanation for the precise magical properties of fusion vest creation, but them's the breaks.
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
The one thing Super has done right is explain this. We see from Vegeta that he didn't need the ritual yet achieved it why? Because every Saiyan has a potential to achieve it. The ritual is just a temporary boost to that power, a taste of things to come, hence why there is a time limit, now Goku being a genius managed to sustain the power and make it his own essentially skipping a step. As for the hand holding and what not I don't think there needs to a reason it is just like that.
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But why do Saiyans have so many damn different types of transformations. Oozaru, Super Saiyan, and now Super Saiyan God? It's mostly the ritual that throws me off, what makes the Saiyans so special that they can become gods by holding hands?VegettoEX wrote:If you need every single last thing explained to you, you're going to have a difficult time with the larger world of fiction. Sometimes things just are because they are. They came up with it, they executed on it, and there it is.
We also don't have an explanation for the precise magical properties of fusion vest creation, but them's the breaks.
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What makes Nameks so special that they can make dragonballs?Nex Carnifex wrote:But why do Saiyans have so many damn different types of transformations. Oozaru, Super Saiyan, and now Super Saiyan God? It's mostly the ritual that throws me off, what makes the Saiyans so special that they can become gods by holding hands?VegettoEX wrote:If you need every single last thing explained to you, you're going to have a difficult time with the larger world of fiction. Sometimes things just are because they are. They came up with it, they executed on it, and there it is.
We also don't have an explanation for the precise magical properties of fusion vest creation, but them's the breaks.
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They are wizards and only some of them can. They are magic Saiyans are more primitive fighters.Polyphase Avatron wrote:What makes Nameks so special that they can make dragonballs?Nex Carnifex wrote:But why do Saiyans have so many damn different types of transformations. Oozaru, Super Saiyan, and now Super Saiyan God? It's mostly the ritual that throws me off, what makes the Saiyans so special that they can become gods by holding hands?VegettoEX wrote:If you need every single last thing explained to you, you're going to have a difficult time with the larger world of fiction. Sometimes things just are because they are. They came up with it, they executed on it, and there it is.
We also don't have an explanation for the precise magical properties of fusion vest creation, but them's the breaks.
Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
Why can't primitive fighters have some sort of lost access to magical/divine energy?
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Re: Why does super saiyan God exist
Long explanations ain't mandatory, but if it's a short one it better be good, or seem like it's obvious, doesn't make you ask too many questions and in general 'flows' naturally.
SSJ doesn't need much explanation. Everyone has ki, SSJ is someone with lotsa lotsa ki. The visuals explain a lot by themselves - the power is so strong and hot the hair ignites like a star.
Oozaru - brings out Saiyans' primal genetic past, a well trained and 'calm' Oozaru results in hybrid SSJ4 form that mixes most useful aspects of Saiyan past, present blah blah. Once again the visuals do good job here, even if one doesn't like the design on its own. However, compared to SSJ1, this transformation is unnecesary complicated with Golden Oozaru form, without obvious requirements how exactly a calm Golden Oozaru makes a SSJ4 yet a calm Brown Oozaru doesn't.
SSG - normal ki transforms into God ki for no reason. 6 good-hearted Saiyans needed - why? There are evil and not-good hearted Gods as well, heck, they're the focus on the entire arc SSG is introduced in. And why 6 and not 728? The visuals are completly random. Red or blue doesn't really evoke the thought of holiness or divinity (that would be white/silver if anything). Neither does it vit visually that 6 blonde mommies and daddies make a red-headed baby. Slimmer muscules for SSG - why? If the God ki is so glorious why are any developed muscules needed at all? I don't like the slimer design, but quite frankly if that's the direction Toriyama wanted to go to accent how much the godliness is better than muscules, he should've made the design much more skinny.
SSJ doesn't need much explanation. Everyone has ki, SSJ is someone with lotsa lotsa ki. The visuals explain a lot by themselves - the power is so strong and hot the hair ignites like a star.
Oozaru - brings out Saiyans' primal genetic past, a well trained and 'calm' Oozaru results in hybrid SSJ4 form that mixes most useful aspects of Saiyan past, present blah blah. Once again the visuals do good job here, even if one doesn't like the design on its own. However, compared to SSJ1, this transformation is unnecesary complicated with Golden Oozaru form, without obvious requirements how exactly a calm Golden Oozaru makes a SSJ4 yet a calm Brown Oozaru doesn't.
SSG - normal ki transforms into God ki for no reason. 6 good-hearted Saiyans needed - why? There are evil and not-good hearted Gods as well, heck, they're the focus on the entire arc SSG is introduced in. And why 6 and not 728? The visuals are completly random. Red or blue doesn't really evoke the thought of holiness or divinity (that would be white/silver if anything). Neither does it vit visually that 6 blonde mommies and daddies make a red-headed baby. Slimmer muscules for SSG - why? If the God ki is so glorious why are any developed muscules needed at all? I don't like the slimer design, but quite frankly if that's the direction Toriyama wanted to go to accent how much the godliness is better than muscules, he should've made the design much more skinny.
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Like every other transformation or powerup introduced, it exists to conveniently further the plot.
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And to get more money from us in merchandise!Lord Beerus wrote:Like every other transformation or powerup introduced, it exists to conveniently further the plot.
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Oh yes, of course.successoroffate wrote:And to get more money from us in merchandise!Lord Beerus wrote:Like every other transformation or powerup introduced, it exists to conveniently further the plot.
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Every DB series give us a new Saiyan form.
DB: Oozaru
DBZ: SSj, SSj2 and SSj3
DBGT: Golden Oozaru and SSj4
DBS: SSjG and SSjGSSj
It's a tradition for the series. If we got a sequel to GT or if GT went on longer in the late 90's, we probably would gotten SSj5.
DB: Oozaru
DBZ: SSj, SSj2 and SSj3
DBGT: Golden Oozaru and SSj4
DBS: SSjG and SSjGSSj
It's a tradition for the series. If we got a sequel to GT or if GT went on longer in the late 90's, we probably would gotten SSj5.
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