"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

So no Vegito?
This show just gets worse and worse.

Okay Zamasu 55

[Alruneia]

It's only been an hour, but I feel a strong need to repeat myself:

These titles and (small) descriptions aren't enough to dismiss Vegito entirely.

The fusion has not been confirmed to not happen. Don't treat these leaks as such; we're going to start bordering on misinformation soon. Until the end of the arc is in sight and we know titles, and to a lesser degree descriptions, all the way to the end, Vegito has not been confirmed to not appear, and you should absolutely not go around claiming or thinking it has been. Don't forget the amount of hints we looked at before this leak and how we've been something like 99 % certain Vegito will appear. Today's leaks do not debunk that idea.

I'm not saying I'm a huge Vegito fan who's upset he won't appear, or that he's been confirmed to appear. I'm saying it's not confirmed that he won't appear. So please, don't jump to conclusions so quickly.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I'd love it if it were true but they were right about single voice so Vegetto is very much still on the cards and people need to chill man.

Well Black doesn't exist anymore.

He's a part of Merged Zamasu and should have all of his memories. Unless we're going to start pretending fusion erases those to make Super look less shitty.

Or maybe Black was unable to use KK or just didn't care about it.
Let's just make sure it is SSGSSKK lol. GD101 said it maybe Goku doing shenanigans with Shunkanido so could be something like that.

[ekrolo2]

Or maybe Black was unable to use KK or just didn't care about it.
Let's just make sure it is SSGSSKK lol. GD101 said it maybe Goku doing shenanigans with Shunkanido so could be something like that.

I doubt he wouldn't care about it. He enjoys the thrill of battle and by forcing Goku and the others into fighting harder, he would give himself more avenues for strength growth. Not to mention he seems pretty durable, unlike many other DB characters, Black seems pretty fine no matter how hard you beat him up, Vegeta's pummelling certainly didn't knock him off his game for any long period of time.

[Ki Breaker]

I was never that excited about "The return of Vegetto" since fusion sacrifices interaction between the characters who makes up the fusion for a single more balanced yet less interesting personality because of it character imo. I want to hope they have a more creative ending in mind.

Same here, fusion is okay but it's not my favorite thing..
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it somewhat confirmed by the voice actors that we will be seeing fusion?

[samuo2]

If I've understood well, SSJ Blue Kaïo Ken was a Toei add. And they passed by 2 or 3 episodes slice of life to justify that Kaïo Ken will never appears in the show because it's too hard to support the side effect, Gokû would probably die if he used it one more time bla bla bla...

And as a Toei add, he's probably not in Toriyama's script, and use it after this serie of episode to justify its disapearance would be one step forward and two steps back.
And it's the same for Fusion, the characters says three times that they won't fusion since they get their bodies back.

The titles doesn't confirmed that Fusion will not happen, but nothing concrete confirmed that Fusion will happen too, except fake titles and Dragon Ball Heroes..?
[Edit: There is also a confirmation from seiyuus that they record a scene together it can be a flashback, or a sentence in common during a screaming attack of something-else, it isn't that revelant.]
Fusion is as legit as any other possibility, it's like the Kaïo Ken one of the only way we know to increase chances of our heroes to win, but they are not the only which exists.
Let's see if scenarists has enough imagination to make something which doesn't already exists in DB-verse.

[FTW395]

No vegito? Good, we might finally see something original in this series instead of just the same old rehashed moves from the original Dragonball series.

[ArchedThunder]

I fail to see how an incredibly vague (and potentially fake) single sentence description of a single episode deconfirms Vegetto appearing this arc.

[Alruneia]

I fail to see how an incredibly vague (and potentially fake) single sentence description of a single episode deconfirms Vegetto appearing this arc.

It doesn't.
It doesn't and I'm getting worked up because of people not realising that. I'm not the only one to say that in this thread, and I've already made two posts about it, so still believing otherwise can only really mean not reading the thread... but reading the thread is necessary to even draw the erroneous conclusion and post about it in the first place!

So, once again, I would like to make this very, very clear:

It's NOT CONFIRMED that Vegito will not appear.

Checking your 2222, by the way. Nice digits.

[ekrolo2]

It doesn't mean Vegetto won't appear period, but if the arc really does go on for another 5-8 episodes and his reveal isn't spoiled by then, he's not coming. If they spoiled KKBlue, the Mafuba, Black's identity and Super Trunks, they'll spoil Vegetto

[Retan]

Watch this it'll turn out Zamasu wasn't allowedd to destroy life like Gowasu said and he will no longer be a god. Boy would that screw with Zamasu's ego

[Chelentano]

I was never that excited about "The return of Vegetto" since fusion sacrifices interaction between the characters who makes up the fusion for a single more balanced yet less interesting personality because of it character imo. I want to hope they have a more creative ending in mind.

Exactly my thought. Never liked the idea to bring back Vegetto just cause and I hope that he won't be coming. I want something more original (and I'm not referring to a new fusion), but maybe that's ask too much for Super.

[MagmonKai]

I feel like there's been too much foreshadowing of them "working together" for Vegetto not to appear. Remember, the saiyans don't want to fuse naturally, and it would have to be a desperate un-winnable situation for them to fuse. I think this Life-risking attack that Goku will do will make them consider the potara fusion. In any case, if I were a betting I'd say that will see Vegetto at the very end of the arc. The dual screen shots of Goku and Vegeta, Whis's comments, the appearance of the Kaioshins, it's all too much to dismiss. Then again it would be incredibly duplicitous of the writers to throw that much out there for it not to be true. But my experience watching the show is that the little hints about the potara rings on Black and Zamasu seemed to indicate that they would eventually fuse, and guess what they did. So, I'm with the others, until the titles come out and confirms Vegetto won't appear, I'll continue to believe he will show up.

[Ki Breaker]

If both the spoiler of vegetto appearing and goku's life risking attack destroying his wall of light to be true..

It could be that goku's attack leaves him near death and Vegeta definitely can't beat them by himself, as there are no Dragonballs in future both are forced to fuse for Goku to carry on living..

That would also explain the fact why they would agree to fuse after making it very clear in rof they will not do it..

And why they will again be hesitant to become vegetto in the future as they still do not want to fuse anyway..

Seems like a good way to solve most of the problems

[HeroR]

I feel like there's been too much foreshadowing of them "working together" for Vegetto not to appear. Remember, the saiyans don't want to fuse naturally, and it would have to be a desperate un-winnable situation for them to fuse. I think this Life-risking attack that Goku will do will make them consider the potara fusion. In any case, if I were a betting I'd say that will see Vegetto at the very end of the arc. The dual screen shots of Goku and Vegeta, Whis's comments, the appearance of the Kaioshins, it's all too much to dismiss. Then again it would be incredibly duplicitous of the writers to throw that much out there for it not to be true. But my experience watching the show is that the little hints about the potara rings on Black and Zamasu seemed to indicate that they would eventually fuse, and guess what they did. So, I'm with the others, until the titles come out and confirms Vegetto won't appear, I'll continue to believe he will show up.

Working together doesn't necessarily equal fusion. It could mean just simply fighting together, which is what Whis was referring to with Freeza.

[Anime Kitten]

While I obviously realize he hasn't been debunked, I do wonder why Vegetto wasn't hinted at yet. It would actually be even more amazing if he appears halfway through an episode and one-shots Merged Zamasu, then is unfused the next time we see him.

But you know Zamasu is immortal so pay no mind.

[Sandubadear]

Well I am on the wagon that don't want to see Vegetto again. It's a cheap and completely unoriginal way to defeat Zamasu. I'm still hoping that instead of fusion, they defeat him in a way that no-one could imagine.

[ArchedThunder]

Well I am on the wagon that don't want to see Vegetto again. It's a cheap and completely unoriginal way to defeat Zamasu. I'm still hoping that instead of fusion, they defeat him in a way that no-one could imagine.

Vegetto wouldn't necessarily defeat him though, someone could go back and get the paper amulet while Vegetto fights and then Trunks could seal Zamasu away with the Mafuba.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

First Rosé Black figure...

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[pacz360]

Can you guys just fucking wait and see how this shit plays out first like the guy above Said there's no confirmation that vegito won't appear just wait and see how the episodes will play out first instead oh he won't appear/he will shit.