"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

But he changed BoG so Goku did not drop of SSG. We know 100% for fact that Toriyama intended Goku to revert back to SS for the conclusion of the fight. Yet Toyotaro saw fit to ignore that have Goku stay in SSG. If he's changed something as big as that who knows what else he's changed. I am now more than convinced that SSGSSKK was indeed in the outline.

Are you referring to BOG? That may be Toriyama not mentioning anything like that in the outline for the manga as well, nevertheless. I can more or less imagine something like "Goku fights Beerus and then loses Super Saiyan God. The end".
I seriously doubt he would ignore a plot point like Blue + Kaioken. Much more inclined to believe he just filled the blanks with something else.

Toriyama only wrote an outline for his new stuff, not the movies since he already wrote the original script.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I really hate the way Toyotaro draws Zamasu.

[Ki Breaker]

I really hate the way Toyotaro draws Zamasu.

That's a shocker.. I found Toyotaros depiction of him to be pretty on point

[brett wheeler]

If black doesnt go ssr in the manga it kinda confirmed what v-jump said that rose was just goku blacks regular ssj. So I take that as toriyama wrote,"black turned ssj and vegeta goes blue and they fight" nothing more and tioe asked toriyama to design a new design for ssj goku black so it didnt look like a normal ssj was fighting off ssb, Thus toriyama designed rose for the anime only and toyataro used regular ssj. Seems pretty simple and toyataro isnt contradicting tariyama either just toriyama's design for the anime,but who knows its all up in the air at this point.

[HeroR]

If black doesnt go ssr in the manga it kinda confirmed what v-jump said that rose was just goku blacks regular ssj. So I take that as toriyama wrote,"black turned ssj and vegeta goes blue and they fight" nothing more and tioe asked toriyama to design a new design for ssj goku black so it didnt look like a normal ssj was fighting off ssb, Thus toriyama designed rose for the anime only and toyataro used regular ssj. Seems pretty simple and toyataro isnt contradicting tariyama either just toriyama's design for the anime,but who knows its all up in the air at this point.

I highly doubt they would asked Toriyama for a new form when they could do what they did with the Kaioken. There's literally no point.

[TheMikado]

I really hate the way Toyotaro draws Zamasu.

That's a shocker.. I found Toyotaros depiction of him to be pretty on point

Pretty much, the manga version looks far more cunning to go long with his overall objective. He just looks like he's plotting.

[Doctor.]

I really hate the way Toyotaro draws Zamasu.

That's a shocker.. I found Toyotaros depiction of him to be pretty on point

I dislike it too. Makes him look more like a "man", I guess? Zamasu is supposed to look young.

[Grimlock]

Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

[Ki Breaker]

Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

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Can't say I am not impressed

[TheUltimateNinja]

Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

This is the problem I have with Toyotaro's artwork. Some of it just looks really off. This is especially prevalent in SSJ Black and Zamasu, their aesthetics are subtly displeasing.

I really hate the way Toyotaro draws Zamasu.

That's a shocker.. I found Toyotaros depiction of him to be pretty on point

I dislike it too. Makes him look more like a "man", I guess? Zamasu is supposed to look young.

It's something like this for me, though I don't know if I'd specifically refer to it as him looking like more of a man. Toyotaro has consistently been fucking up his facial features, especially recently. His Merged Zamasu on that one promotional image was pretty decent, though.

[Chelentano]

Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

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Where is that from?

[Araki]

If black doesnt go ssr in the manga it kinda confirmed what v-jump said that rose was just goku blacks regular ssj. So I take that as toriyama wrote,"black turned ssj and vegeta goes blue and they fight" nothing more and tioe asked toriyama to design a new design for ssj goku black so it didnt look like a normal ssj was fighting off ssb, Thus toriyama designed rose for the anime only and toyataro used regular ssj. Seems pretty simple and toyataro isnt contradicting tariyama either just toriyama's design for the anime,but who knows its all up in the air at this point.

Toriyama actually wrote a note to the staff, in his original design for Black, specifying the color of his SS hair was supposed to be like that. So no, that idea and concept came from Toriyama.

On the other hand, we never saw a design of golden SS from Toriyama, so that's very likely a Toyotaro invention.

[Kanassa]

[spoiler]Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

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Something about that hair on Black just looks very stupid for me.

[samuo2]

Not happy with Black's eyes thickline in that chapter, a bit too Majin Vegeta-esque to me. I don't know how but the anime make Black's face enough unique and distinctive frome Gokû's one without them, it doesn't match here.

A bit disappointed about the way the manga goes, I think Black should be superior to Vegeta and Gokû, make necessary a getback to the present, one time before the future development.

The draws seems a bit more heterogeneous than the two precedent chapters.

However the Final Flash looks awesome.

Not happy with the non-presence of the SSJ Rosé, it was so well lead in the anime, and make Black unique, that's definitely a bad point if it isn't present at all in the manga (manga which will be the only finale produce I will own for Dragon Ball Super personnally). In addition, it's too bad since it seems to be a Toriyama ideas, we already know that he designed it. It could make the plot-twist I'm waiting for.
Black in Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 doesn't bother me, actually fortunately it appears in the manga, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't suit him in colors.

I'm afraid about how Toyotarô will finish this arc and begin, ahead of the anime, the next one decently..

[Baggie_Saiyan]

[spoiler]Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

[/spoiler]

Something about that hair on Black just looks very stupid for me.

The two front bangs floating like that don't look great I agree but that hair strand that stuck out being missing just feels odd to me, if Rosé is indeed ditched I'd at least wish he'd kept that.

Hmm Herms recent revelation seems interesting, perhaps there is hope yet!

[Ki Breaker]

[spoiler]Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

[/spoiler]

Something about that hair on Black just looks very stupid for me.

The two front bangs floating like that don't look great I agree but that hair strand that stuck out being missing just feels odd to me, if Rosé is indeed ditched I'd at least wish he'd kept that.

Hmm Herms recent revelation seems interesting, perhaps there is hope yet!

Interesting, so why did the anime not show it?
Did they not understand what it meant
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Araki]

Something about that hair on Black just looks very stupid for me.

The two front bangs floating like that don't look great I agree but that hair strand that stuck out being missing just feels odd to me, if Rosé is indeed ditched I'd at least wish he'd kept that.

Hmm Herms recent revelation seems interesting, perhaps there is hope yet!

Interesting, so why did the anime not show it?
Did they not understand what it meant
[spoiler][/spoiler]

You're the one who didn't understand. That's Toriyama's description of SS Rose.

[Ki Breaker]

You're the one who didn't understand. That's Toriyama's description of SS Rose.

Are we sure about that

The key word is "and"

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Something about that hair on Black just looks very stupid for me.

The two front bangs floating like that don't look great I agree but that hair strand that stuck out being missing just feels odd to me, if Rosé is indeed ditched I'd at least wish he'd kept that.

Hmm Herms recent revelation seems interesting, perhaps there is hope yet!

Interesting, so why did the anime not show it?
We're they confused what it meant

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Seems Toriyama didn't design it so they forgoed it.
But this then makes me worried that Toyo may breeze through some other things I think we need 4-5 chapters but he's already working on the next arc so it seems this may wrap up Jan/Feb. /;

[Bansho64]

Super Saiyan Goku Black officially colored.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Can't say I am not impressed

Same. Toyotaro's artwork is simply and utterly awesome. Having it colored is just the cherry on top of the cake for me.