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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:37 pm

Gog wrote:Why is super Buu stronger than Goku?
The best answer you'll get is that Boo is ass-pull magic incarnate.
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Post by Gog » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:59 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gog wrote:Why is super Buu stronger than Goku?
The best answer you'll get is that Boo is ass-pull magic incarnate.
Huh, I was expecting a better reason for why Buu can do that, but whatever

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:02 am

Gog wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gog wrote:Why is super Buu stronger than Goku?
The best answer you'll get is that Boo is ass-pull magic incarnate.
Huh, I was expecting a better reason for why Buu can do that, but whatever
I'd gladly give you a better one if I could, but I can't think of one plausible reason as to why it should be.
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Post by Gog » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:07 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
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Jinzoningen MULE wrote: The best answer you'll get is that Boo is ass-pull magic incarnate.
Huh, I was expecting a better reason for why Buu can do that, but whatever
I'd gladly give you a better one if I could, but I can't think of one plausible reason as to why it should be.
Perhaps its the body shape, as Akira Toriyama did confirm that Ki is based on physical ability, and it was implied by Piccolo that his body had completely changed for combat

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:33 am

Has anyone ever noticed that in movie 3 Tullece makes artificial moonlight, waits for Gohan to transform, then destroys the artificial moonlight and Gohan is still transformed? Uh huh. Yeah.

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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:01 pm

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kinisking wrote:Is it just me or something like raditz's dub voice would be a good Goku black voice for the dub?
I feel like it would be too close to what we got in Xenoverse 2

What I think they should do is cast Zamasu first, and then have Sean Schemmel sort of imitate that voice for Black.
I thought that much was obvious. Nozawa's Black sounds like a Miki Zamasu impersonation too. Zamasu has already been cast though. Sabat says "you wont believe who we got" IIRC. My hunch is Matthew Mercer, who's worked with FUNi before, great actor, & dubbed Shinichiro Miki 4 times previous IIRC.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:32 pm

With this fem Broly shit, I think Super has become my least favorite thing in the franchise. Yeah, DB- and ROF, are worse, but nothing in this franchise has annoyed me like Super has.
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Post by Gog » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:57 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:With this fem Broly shit, I think Super has become my least favorite thing in the franchise. Yeah, DB- and ROF, are worse, but nothing in this franchise has annoyed me like Super has.
Wait a minute Dragon Ball, the original OG version. Man oh man I want to hear your reasons for that. Also the cell arc and android arc exists so I know that you are lying through your teeth. Also could you really explain with the Dragon Ball bit? ᗒ ͟ʖᗕ Really want to know that

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Post by Footlong Shoe » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:31 pm

Gog wrote:Wait a minute Dragon Ball, the original OG version. Man oh man I want to hear your reasons for that. Also the cell arc and android arc exists so I know that you are lying through your teeth. Also could you really explain with the Dragon Ball bit? ᗒ ͟ʖᗕ Really want to know that
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:07 pm

Gog wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:With this fem Broly shit, I think Super has become my least favorite thing in the franchise. Yeah, DB- and ROF, are worse, but nothing in this franchise has annoyed me like Super has.
Wait a minute Dragon Ball, the original OG version. Man oh man I want to hear your reasons for that. Also the cell arc and android arc exists so I know that you are lying through your teeth. Also could you really explain with the Dragon Ball bit? ᗒ ͟ʖᗕ Really want to know that
As Footlong Shoe said, I meant DB minus. I was on my phone I didn't feel like writing it out.
And as an adamant Cell arc hater, I find minus and ROF much worse.
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Post by Gog » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:18 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:
Gog wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:With this fem Broly shit, I think Super has become my least favorite thing in the franchise. Yeah, DB- and ROF, are worse, but nothing in this franchise has annoyed me like Super has.
Wait a minute Dragon Ball, the original OG version. Man oh man I want to hear your reasons for that. Also the cell arc and android arc exists so I know that you are lying through your teeth. Also could you really explain with the Dragon Ball bit? ᗒ ͟ʖᗕ Really want to know that
As Footlong Shoe said, I meant DB minus. I was on my phone I didn't feel like writing it out.
And as an adamant Cell arc hater, I find minus and ROF much worse.
Ahh, thanks for specifying that. I still don't believe you.... But different strokes for different folks

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Post by ProjectAlpha22 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:53 am

So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
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Post by Gog » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:09 am

ProjectAlpha22 wrote:So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
Toriyama forgot, that's the only reason to why. Also the only reason why they never learned it was because he wanted to focus on the saiyans

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:15 am

Gog wrote:
ProjectAlpha22 wrote:So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
Toriyama forgot, that's the only reason to why. Also the only reason why they never learned it was because he wanted to focus on the saiyans
I won't even go so far, but for whatever reason, it wasn't significant enough in his mind to continue using it. I think the question was asking for an in-universe answer, though. Unfortunately, I can't think of one.
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Post by Gog » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:17 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
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ProjectAlpha22 wrote:So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
Toriyama forgot, that's the only reason to why. Also the only reason why they never learned it was because he wanted to focus on the saiyans
I won't even go so far, but for whatever reason, it wasn't significant enough in his mind to continue using it. I think the question was asking for an in-universe answer, though. Unfortunately, I can't think of one.
Because there just isn't any in universe reason for the human's, and piccolo to not actually get Kaio ken

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Post by Nejishiki » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:39 am

ProjectAlpha22 wrote:So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
It's the same motive for teleportation: It's a difficult technique to master & in Kaio-ken's case, the drawbacks are deadly when misapplied. For all the effort it takes to properly hone, it's better to train for that level of strength without consequence instead. That's essentially what Goku does when he takes it as far as he can.

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Post by kinisking » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:54 am

Nejishiki wrote:
ProjectAlpha22 wrote:So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
It's the same motive for teleportation: It's a difficult technique to master & in Kaio-ken's case, the drawbacks are deadly when misapplied. For all the effort it takes to properly hone, it's better to train for that level of strength without consequence instead. That's essentially what Goku does when he takes it as far as he can.
We don't know how long it takes for them to master it, and obviously it was worth it since he learned it in the first place. Everyone else is just as adept at learning techniques as Goku. Also, kaioken is extremely worth it for non-saiyans because they seem to have hit a brick wall from regular training. Piccolo could train for a decade and not multiply his power 20x like he could just by learning kaioken in less than a year .
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:15 am

ProjectAlpha22 wrote:So. Why the hell did no other character learn the Kaioken?
Because once Super Saiyan became a thing, the Kaioken became obsolete. It's always been seen as a high risk-high reward technique, and I guess the cast weren't willing to gamble on such a technique in a futile attempt to keep up. The fact that Goku still has issues using the Kaioken to this day, speaks volume of how much of a difficult technique it is to learn, let alone master.

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Post by Gog » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:55 pm

Why is misinformation so prevalent, in everywhere outside of Kanzenshuu? Especially here http://dbmenglish.freeforums.net/thread ... rs?page=20 it just hurts me reading through what these shmucks are saying.

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Post by dbgtFO » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:41 am

"Dende" is apparently slang for dick.
I honestly wonder why and whether or not it became slang before or after DBZ came to the US.

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