Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I hate how we have like a month of waiting knowing poor Goku and Nail lose, they don't even take out any ginyu forces except Guldo. Depressing to be drip fed the death of characters you like....
I wil always remember Universe 6 Bojack special for that art (Trunks Swirly Nipples, Zombie Vegeta )
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I've never understood Toei's reasonings behind Bojack. Freeza is practically the Devil, but it's Bojack and his crew are somehow worst and are captured? Beyond power, how is Bojack and his men worst than Freeza and his army? And What are the guidelines to Kais stepping in?
Then to DBM. If they went in to stop them before, why not stop them again? According to DBM, it's based on their life force...So, if North Kai is dead, why not contact the Namekians so King Kai can be resurrected and Bojack and them can be stopped again.
Finally, the fight of Cell vs Bojack is what we should be getting. Villain vs Fights are what should be explored! Babidi and Dabura is still alive in U6. Where's that fight?
That said, it can be argued that Bojack is stronger than Super Perfect Cell. How did Cell win?
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That said, it can be argued that Bojack is stronger than Super Perfect Cell. How did Cell win?
Super Perfect Cell managed to hurt SSJ2 Gohan, and Gohan beat him after using full power Kamehameha, while Bojack was killed by two punches, i think he is around Perfect Cell level.
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I'm so happy that we didn't get another Bojack special. However I am saddened by the fact that we never got to see Cell dust these fools. But a question why did Slagir even choose Bojack? I'm also surprised that they even acknowledged the Bojack special, especially considering how panned it was.
This just further solidifies the idea that U11 is the unseen timeline briefly documented in the 7th Daizenshuu, given that Kaioh is enjoying life as he pleases. Bobbidi wins because without Cell in the equation, the RoSaT doesn't have to be used, Goku never sacrifices himself, and the Z-Warriors are drastically weaker than they were in U16/18.
I understand that Multivese is based all the stuff that came before 2008, but Kaioshin killing people wasn't something that Toriyama implied they don't do? It was even expanded in the Future Trunks arc with Zamasu wanting do to justice with his own hands but a Kaioshin is not allowed to do that.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:I understand that Multivese is based all the stuff that came before 2008, but Kaioshin killing people wasn't something that Toriyama implied they don't do? It was even expanded in the Future Trunks arc with Zamasu wanting do to justice with his own hands but a Kaioshin is not allowed to do that.
They needed an excuse to get a Kaio Shin universe, and besides there was no statement that they couldn't interfere, even though their literal baby murderers.
Noah wrote:I understand that Multivese is based all the stuff that came before 2008, but Kaioshin killing people wasn't something that Toriyama implied they don't do? It was even expanded in the Future Trunks arc with Zamasu wanting do to justice with his own hands but a Kaioshin is not allowed to do that.
They needed an excuse to get a Kaio Shin universe, and besides there was no statement that they couldn't interfere, even though their literal baby murderers.
I find it ironic that Zamasu is basically the same as the Kais who murdered all 'threats' in their universe. Especially since Gowasu explained why the Kais don't interfere, namely mortals have to be allowed to learn and grow from their mistakes, and justice can't prevail if there is no evil. A every ying-yang concept.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
You know, I actually dig this mini-comic. Not only due to the great art, (I practically like how Gokua is drawn in the midst of the Cell Jrs, a great pose and composition to show how helpless he is) but it's fun way to expand the multiverse's backstory without getting bogged down in specials. I hope we see more of these.
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Augenis wrote:The power level view into the series has trained a significant portion of the fan base into real life stereotypical members of the Freeza empire, where each and every individual is reduced to a floating number above their heads and any sudden changes to said number are met with shock and confusion.
Noah wrote:I understand that Multivese is based all the stuff that came before 2008, but Kaioshin killing people wasn't something that Toriyama implied they don't do? It was even expanded in the Future Trunks arc with Zamasu wanting do to justice with his own hands but a Kaioshin is not allowed to do that.
They needed an excuse to get a Kaio Shin universe, and besides there was no statement that they couldn't interfere, even though their literal baby murderers.
I find it ironic that Zamasu is basically the same as the Kais who murdered all 'threats' in their universe.
I'm still grasping how Slagir would have written in them killing off babies. And who knows countless others. I would have actually sympathized and applauded them, if they had you know good Coola, and Freeza with them, and even a good King Cold. But nope, baby killers. I even remember the feeling when I saw that scene, I think it was shock, disbelief, rage, and a twinge of sadness.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
First, yeah, the Kaioshin Universe at first seemed like the most metal universe there is.
But it quickly sets in that there could have been hundreds of other options that could have been taken, that wouldn't amount to murdering children, including raise them to be good and train them to be your sentries. So really the ends don't justify the means, and the story comes off rather twisted.