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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
I'd just like to bring up that the calibration of people's monitors and TVs is likely affecting the show pretty heavily with the new filter.
In the opening on my computer monitor some of the characters with black hair in the opening have their hair bleed into the background a bit, but on my TV I can see their hair better.
In the actual episode the bloom and saturation on the characters on Beerus' and Kaioshin's planets is also less abrasive on my TV.
Seems like they didn't do what a lot of shows do where they test to make sure it looks fine on lots of different displays.
In the opening on my computer monitor some of the characters with black hair in the opening have their hair bleed into the background a bit, but on my TV I can see their hair better.
In the actual episode the bloom and saturation on the characters on Beerus' and Kaioshin's planets is also less abrasive on my TV.
Seems like they didn't do what a lot of shows do where they test to make sure it looks fine on lots of different displays.
Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
I wish they took inspiration from this video instead of those atrocious 90's Super
Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
What do you guys like more, with or without filter on this one?. I am just curious. For me I think the one without filter looks better here
Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Didn't notice they changed the alien in the hood's design, I think he is the apprentice of God of Destruction of that universe,but really doesn't make any sense hidding it now after they have already showed him.
Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
It's really strange that they buffed him up last second..Alee9977 wrote:Didn't notice they changed the alien in the hood's design, I think he is the apprentice of God of Destruction of that universe,but really doesn't make any sense hidding it now after they have already showed him.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
The one with the filter is undoubtedly better, for me.Sodhi wrote:What do you guys like more, with or without filter on this one?. I am just curious. For me I think the one without filter looks better here
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Looks a bit like. Yo! Son Goku & his friends return...Noah wrote:I wish they took inspiration from this video instead of those atrocious 90's Super
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Sodhi wrote:What do you guys like more, with or without filter on this one?. I am just curious. For me I think the one without filter looks better here
I kinda like the top image more, but the very light white fog over so much of it makes me think I have cataracts. Or maybe that's how Super looks when watched on Silent Hill Tube.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Hey guys I was going through episode #66 trying to capture all the good SSGSS shots of Vegetto to add my SSGSS album...(Yeah I am kind of obsessed with the form! Love it so much!) Anyway I came across this great hidden shot of Vegetto Anyone know who drew it?
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Probably shimanuki, the shine on the face really looks like him
Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
There isn't a single Shimanuki trait in that entire image. It looks like an inbetween from someone like Higashide or Inaba.iAnimationLover_ wrote:Probably shimanuki, the shine on the face really looks like himBaggie_Saiyan wrote:Hey guys I was going through episode #66 trying to capture all the good SSGSS shots of Vegetto to add my SSGSS album...(Yeah I am kind of obsessed with the form! Love it so much!) Anyway I came across this great hidden shot of Vegetto Anyone know who drew it?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Ajay wrote:There isn't a single Shimanuki trait in that entire image. It looks like an inbetween from someone like Higashide or Inaba.iAnimationLover_ wrote:Probably shimanuki, the shine on the face really looks like himBaggie_Saiyan wrote:Hey guys I was going through episode #66 trying to capture all the good SSGSS shots of Vegetto to add my SSGSS album...(Yeah I am kind of obsessed with the form! Love it so much!) Anyway I came across this great hidden shot of Vegetto Anyone know who drew it?
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I'm a bit tired so i didnt pay too much attention (Came from playing a soccer game ) the shine on the face reminded me of him, but the nose and ear dont.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Wow, you're right!ArchedThunder wrote:I'd just like to bring up that the calibration of people's monitors and TVs is likely affecting the show pretty heavily with the new filter.
In the opening on my computer monitor some of the characters with black hair in the opening have their hair bleed into the background a bit, but on my TV I can see their hair better.
In the actual episode the bloom and saturation on the characters on Beerus' and Kaioshin's planets is also less abrasive on my TV.
Seems like they didn't do what a lot of shows do where they test to make sure it looks fine on lots of different displays.
I just connected my laptop to my TV, and the difference is quite considerable! I changed my TV's settings a few months ago to get it to look as good as possible (turning off the standard filters in the TV, and changing some of the sharpness/contrast settings), and the new episode of Super looks quite good on it. Super's filter is still not perfect, but it's hardly noticeable in the scenes on earth now, and the scenes on Beerus and Kaioshin's planets look at least decent now.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
But the fact that you had to bother with that is stupid, because any worthwhile company should test their footage in different displays, like ArchedThunder said, before release it to the public. It's the same stuff with video games development.DragonBallFan8001 wrote:Wow, you're right!ArchedThunder wrote:I'd just like to bring up that the calibration of people's monitors and TVs is likely affecting the show pretty heavily with the new filter.
In the opening on my computer monitor some of the characters with black hair in the opening have their hair bleed into the background a bit, but on my TV I can see their hair better.
In the actual episode the bloom and saturation on the characters on Beerus' and Kaioshin's planets is also less abrasive on my TV.
Seems like they didn't do what a lot of shows do where they test to make sure it looks fine on lots of different displays.
I just connected my laptop to my TV, and the difference is quite considerable! I changed my TV's settings a few months ago to get it to look as good as possible (turning off the standard filters in the TV, and changing some of the sharpness/contrast settings), and the new episode of Super looks quite good on it. Super's filter is still not perfect, but it's hardly noticeable in the scenes on earth now, and the scenes on Beerus and Kaioshin's planets look at least decent now.
Considering episode 77 leak image didn't have any filter, and the episode itself looks much better than it was in the NEP, this filter must have been a last minute decision they had.
But they can't expect people to change their display settings to watch these episodes.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Hey guys! I have a submissions that is probably off-topic but it has more visibility right here, if I'm right please moderators feel free to move my request
I'm hesitating about artist of the japanese covers of Dragon Ball Z 3 and the Tankôbon-like title menu of Dragon Ball Z (Budokaï in Occident)
If Dragon Ball Z 2 is definitely pure Nakatsuru, the two other has both Nakatsuru and Yamamuro traits, and we know that it's a time when both of them illustrated a lot of officials DB products so it's hard to tell who is who. Especially when someone tells me that Nakatsuru was much influenced by Yamamuro during this era, so what do you think guys?
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I'm hesitating about artist of the japanese covers of Dragon Ball Z 3 and the Tankôbon-like title menu of Dragon Ball Z (Budokaï in Occident)
If Dragon Ball Z 2 is definitely pure Nakatsuru, the two other has both Nakatsuru and Yamamuro traits, and we know that it's a time when both of them illustrated a lot of officials DB products so it's hard to tell who is who. Especially when someone tells me that Nakatsuru was much influenced by Yamamuro during this era, so what do you think guys?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Hey! Both examples you've posted are by Yamamauro.samuo2 wrote:[spoiler]
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Okay thanks for your answer! I'm sorry if I'm asking too much but can you please develop your ideas?Ajay wrote:Hey! Both examples you've posted are by Yamamauro.samuo2 wrote:[spoiler]
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I found some traits that are very Nakatsuru like noses, Vegeta's shades, the color of the highlight, Vegeta's eyes, global proportions of all faces and so one
Even if I'm agree that there are Yamamuro traits too like Gokû's face, Gokû's shades, it's too brief to convince me
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
That Krillin and Gohan drawing look out of place... They're so bad.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Well, in the first image, the hair is typical of Yamamuro - it's very blocky, whereas Nakatsuru's is more flowing - compare it with the cover of Budokai 1 (Dragon Ball Z). The ear shapes in both images are as Yamamuro as you get, while Nakatsuru's ears are taller and much more in line with Toriyama's. Goku in the second image is 1:1 with just about every single Goku Yamamuro drew during this era (I'm working on a video on him right now, so I've done nothing but stare at this era for most of the week).samuo2 wrote:Okay thanks for your answer! I'm sorry if I'm asking too much but can you please develop your ideas?
I found some traits that are very Nakatsuru like noses, Vegeta's shades, the color of the highlight, Vegeta's eyes, global proportions of all faces and so one
Even if I'm agree that there are Yamamuro traits too like Gokû's face, Gokû's shades, it's too brief to convince me
I don't really know what else to say. Those are Yamamuro. You stare at styles long enough and you kinda just know after a while - I sometimes struggle to put it into words. Sorry! Hope that helps, anyway.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
For people that are new to analyzing about artists' certain styles, it can be a bit difficult, but once you figure out how to break apart the traits, it should be easier from here out.
Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru:
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To be fair, the silhouette next to the Budokai logo is illustrated by Nakatsuru.Ajay wrote:Hey! Both examples you've posted are by Yamamauro.samuo2 wrote:[spoiler]
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76
Yeah, I agree that it's stupid that it doesn't look good on the standard settings of many displays. Since it looks like the filter was a last minute addition, there's a decent chance they're still tweaking it, luckily.FortuneSSJ wrote:But the fact that you had to bother with that is stupid, because any worthwhile company should test their footage in different displays, like ArchedThunder said, before release it to the public. It's the same stuff with video games development.DragonBallFan8001 wrote:Wow, you're right!ArchedThunder wrote:I'd just like to bring up that the calibration of people's monitors and TVs is likely affecting the show pretty heavily with the new filter.
In the opening on my computer monitor some of the characters with black hair in the opening have their hair bleed into the background a bit, but on my TV I can see their hair better.
In the actual episode the bloom and saturation on the characters on Beerus' and Kaioshin's planets is also less abrasive on my TV.
Seems like they didn't do what a lot of shows do where they test to make sure it looks fine on lots of different displays.
I just connected my laptop to my TV, and the difference is quite considerable! I changed my TV's settings a few months ago to get it to look as good as possible (turning off the standard filters in the TV, and changing some of the sharpness/contrast settings), and the new episode of Super looks quite good on it. Super's filter is still not perfect, but it's hardly noticeable in the scenes on earth now, and the scenes on Beerus and Kaioshin's planets look at least decent now.
Considering episode 77 leak image didn't have any filter, and the episode itself looks much better than it was in the NEP, this filter must have been a last minute decision they had.
But they can't expect people to change their display settings to watch these episodes.
Another thing I noticed when rewatching the episode is that, like some others here mentioned, the sound effects are a lot nicer. Mutsuhiro Nishimura is still credited for the sound effects, so it seems like he made a bunch of awesome new sound effects!