I... what? How? What?DefinitiveDubs wrote:You're the one who started drama. Not me.Kunzait_83 wrote: Calm. The. Motherfucking. Hell. Down.
I don't have "expertise" in jack shit, nor did I ever once claim to. Certainly not in Wuxia. I'm as painfully generic a fan of the stuff as it gets: there are actual academics who study this stuff in MUCH greater detail for a living who make me look like the dunce-boy that I am.DefinitiveDubs wrote:Oh, I'm sorry. I can't believe I would've ever thought that said that you thought yourself better than other people in this thread. Except oh wait, you did:
You literally called people ignorant for not having the "expertise" that you do. Don't even try to dance around like you didn't.Kunzait_83 wrote:There's a metric FUCKTON of blatant misconceptions and incorrect assertions, such as the main topic of this thread, that all stem primarily from not only general ignorance/inexperience with Wuxia
I said that there is a general ignorance of Wuxia in modern day DB fandom, because there CLEARLY IS. Being unaware of (i.e. ignorant) of a given topic DOES NOT therefore make someone "ignorant" in the "you are unintelligent" definition of the word. It means that this is a (albeit crucial) blind spot in today's fandom. The fact that I, again a patently unremarkable fanboy, am one of the only people here raising any noise about this is out and out MYSTIFYING to me: hence where some of the frustration on my end comes from. My attitude this whole way has been "Why does it gotta be ME who has to be the one to talk about this stuff? I'm an idiot." Its literally the EXACT opposite of what you're accusing me of. I don't think myself "special" for it, and once again, you're very obviously just stuffing words into my mouth.
"People have a whole helluva lot of mistaken impressions about DB because they don't know about this thing here" does NOT translate to "Everyone here is stupider than me and I'm superior." YOU'RE the one who's going well out of your way to read that into this because you clearly WANT to have a reason/excuse to get into a fight here. Its dripping from every word out of you.
And yet, I'M the one who "started the drama". Right.
1) I didn't call the OP ignorant. I said that there's an ignorance in fandom as a whole about this topic. BECAUSE THERE CLEARLY FUCKING IS, or else I wouldn't have to bring it up and write "thesis-long" posts on the matter.DefinitiveDubs wrote:Then why are you calling OP ignorant for thinking Kikuchi didn't fit with the sci-fi elements of Z, enough to write two thesis-long posts about it? If it's just an anime, why are you getting so frustrated over simple opinions?Kunzait_83 wrote:Its JUST a fucking anime/manga. Take a Xanax and lie down or something.
Secondly, I find DB fandom as a whole frustrating, but its as FAR down at the bottom of the laundry list of items in my life as it gets. I post about Wuxia here while I have some time aside here or there in between MUCH more infinitely pressing matters. I also DON'T find it so frustrating that I go out of my way to insult people (even though you're claiming that that's what I've done here).
Case in point.DefinitiveDubs wrote:That is not anywhere even remotely close to what I was saying, you assclown.
Note that you're the only one here calling anyone names and resorting to personal insults. Hence I'll say it again: calm the fuck down. If you're not some 13 year old (and you very well might be, given the evidence on display here) show a little fucking class, even if you think that I'm not.
Jesus. Proof positive, you're just trying to pick a fight here.DefinitiveDubs wrote:Oh wow. Now you're saying that being a casual fan is unwelcome here.Kunzait_83 wrote:Because I mean Kanz isn't just any random DB forum. This is where the truly dedicated die hards generally come to. The kinds of people who really DO care about DB's cultural roots and creative influences. I thought that if you were here, odds were that you were a LOT more interested in DB than just a normal, casual degree.
Just because this is where the hardcore manga-only fuck-the-dub fans go, doesn't mean it's a safe space from the casuals. I would think the biggest English Dragon Ball fansite on the web would welcome all fans, casual or not. That's why this thread exists in the first place.
I was illustrating the fact that BECAUSE this is first and foremost a place for die hard/hardcore fans, then this is all the more THE place for in-depth analysis. THAT DOESN'T EXCLUDE CASUALS from being welcome, nor does it constitute my "shitting on them".
You're exhausting, and I can't tell honestly if you're legitimately dense or if you're just trolling (could easily go either way). Either way I'm officially done.