I forgot about that. Your right. It depends on the region. But in countries where dubs are the common way to consume movies, shows, cartoons like Latin America, probably the vast majority prefer the dub. It's probably the same case in English speaking countries. When it comes to Dragon Ball.Saikyo no Senshi wrote:It depends where one lives. For example, in Nordic countries watching dubs when you're old enough to read is considered retarded. Dubs are strictly for kids there.Bajosexto wrote:I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with.
So, I don't think it can be said with 100% surety that the average viewer prefers watching whatever dubs they grew with over the original. It depends on the place.
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I'm a casual fan though. I don't think you can say who prefers what given how big this fandom is tbh so let's just speak for ourselves alright mate cheers lolBajosexto wrote:I'm sure there's a lot of fans like you that prefer the original Japanese over their dub. I'm kinda in the middle. I prefer the Japanese version of Dragon Ball but I love the Latin American dub dbz. I still think that the "casual" fans, which are the majority, prefer their version of the show and probably have never even seen a complete episode of DB in Japanese.PsionicWarrior wrote:I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lolBajosexto wrote:I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with.
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Well we can't be 100% sure because everyone is different and we all like to experience DB in our own way. But I'm pretty sure the majority of fans, at least in Latin America and English speaking countries, prefer their dub.PsionicWarrior wrote:I'm a casual fan though. I don't think you can say who prefers what given how big this fandom tbh cheers lolBajosexto wrote:I'm sure there's a lot of fans like you that prefer the original Japanese over their dub. I'm kinda in the middle. I prefer the Japanese version of Dragon Ball but I love the Latin American dub dbz. I still think that the "casual" fans, which are the majority, prefer their version of the show and probably have never even seen a complete episode of DB in Japanese.PsionicWarrior wrote:
I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lol
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Really a casual fan can say "I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lol"? You really think that's casual?PsionicWarrior wrote:I'm a casual fan though. I don't think you can say who prefers what given how big this fandom is tbh so let's just speak for ourselves alright mate cheers lolBajosexto wrote:I'm sure there's a lot of fans like you that prefer the original Japanese over their dub. I'm kinda in the middle. I prefer the Japanese version of Dragon Ball but I love the Latin American dub dbz. I still think that the "casual" fans, which are the majority, prefer their version of the show and probably have never even seen a complete episode of DB in Japanese.PsionicWarrior wrote:
I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lol
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Well yes mate, casual isn't exactly someone who saw three episodes and that's it, if you compare to most of the people posting in this website, yes I can safely say I'm a casual lolCure Dragon 255 wrote:Really a casual fan can say "I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lol"? You really think that's casual?
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For instance I'm completely incapable of posting long in-depth analysis like folks usually post around here, nor would I ever bother to try, even though I care about PL I don't understand shit from the PL threads, the list goes on lol
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Goku looks better with black & darker orange.
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Goku looks better with Purple and white, than with Orange and Blue.ekrolo2 wrote:Goku looks better with black & darker orange.
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I don't know if that's unpopular, but I only started to like Vegeta in the Boo Arc
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I was kind of in the same boat. I appreciate his character before the Buu saga a lot more these days, but back when the series was still new for me, I didn't much care for Vegeta until he had more or less mellowed out in the Buu saga and had adopted a small bit of occasional goofiness. I didn't hate him or anything but he wasn't exactly a character I would miss if he was gone for any amount of time.jeffbr92 wrote:I don't know if that's unpopular, but I only started to like Vegeta in the Boo Arc
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DBSuper!Vegeta is the best Vegeta character!, period.
His mellowed persona is great.
His mellowed persona is great.
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I would like it if eventually Super puts a limit to power.
For example, the limit to power, be it mortal or god, would be 100 (meaning there would be no way to get to 101) Daishinkan/the final enemy would be a 100, and for Goku to beat him he would first have to reach 100 and then beat him on a fair 1v1 fight based on technique, experience and battle smarts, without any bullshit.
For example, the limit to power, be it mortal or god, would be 100 (meaning there would be no way to get to 101) Daishinkan/the final enemy would be a 100, and for Goku to beat him he would first have to reach 100 and then beat him on a fair 1v1 fight based on technique, experience and battle smarts, without any bullshit.
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As cool as beam struggles are in the show, they are a pretty pointless mechanic in the games that add nothing to the gameplay except button mashing or stick spinning. Not to mention they can be a nightmare for your hands if your not playing on a PS2 controller.
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Hypocrisy doesn't break a villain. Some of the best one's of all time are total, blatant hypocrites like basically everyone of the mobsters in Godfather and Magneto.
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It's a great trait in a villain. I don't know why anyone would see it as a negative trait for a villain.ekrolo2 wrote:Hypocrisy doesn't break a villain. Some of the best one's of all time are total, blatant hypocrites like basically everyone of the mobsters in Godfather and Magneto.
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I used to be one of those people but there are simply too many really good bad guys out there who are total hypocrites for this argument to work. The mobsters in the Godfather movies treat themselves like businessmen with honor and good catholics but they're really just thugs & murderers playing pretend and are only catholics selectively but are okay with killing, torture and extortion most of the time.ABED wrote:It's a great trait in a villain. I don't know why anyone would see it as a negative trait for a villain.ekrolo2 wrote:Hypocrisy doesn't break a villain. Some of the best one's of all time are total, blatant hypocrites like basically everyone of the mobsters in Godfather and Magneto.
Joker in TDK constantly says he's nothing but a mad dog chasing cars with no purpose behind it but the entire movie is him essentially pulling the Killing Joke on Harvey Dent to drive him insane. He all but uses the term "one bad day" from KJ too.
Freeza sips wine and talks like a refined aristocrat but he's nothing but an egotistical psychopath who makes a living murdering people and uses brutal tactics to intentionally prolong their suffering.
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Freeza's a great example. He not only acts like a gentleman, but he looks down on Saiyans for their battle-centric nature even though he's as brutal as any of them.
In TDK, The Joker asks, "Do I look like a guy with a plan?" and looks down on people with plans even though he definitely has a well thought out and elaborate plan.
In TDK, The Joker asks, "Do I look like a guy with a plan?" and looks down on people with plans even though he definitely has a well thought out and elaborate plan.
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I actually enjoyed the Garlic Jr. Saga, for what it was anyways. Nothing to spectacular but it was nice to give Gohan, Krillin and Piccolo an arc without Goku coming in last minute to save them.
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I think it completely breaks the villain if the characters don't acknowledge it in some way (be it other characters calling him out or the villain himself). It's fine if he knows he's a hypocrite and doesn't care, or the good guys know he's a hypocrite and they don't care about reasoning with him. It's different if the story is trying to portray the character's motivations as believable and trying to say the villain may have a leg to stand on morally when they don't even bother to acknowledge that he's being a hypocrite.ekrolo2 wrote:Hypocrisy doesn't break a villain. Some of the best one's of all time are total, blatant hypocrites like basically everyone of the mobsters in Godfather and Magneto.
Zamasu and Baby are both hypocrites. But Zamasu is humiliated for being a hypocrite in the sense that nobody takes him seriously. Nobody ever calls Baby out on using a Saiyan body or ruling over the universe despite him using what the Saiyans did as justification.