Krillin the planet buster?
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Krillin the planet buster?
Just curious but does Krillin ever reach planet buster status? I thought that he was about as strong as first form frieza who's a planet buster for sure.
But then there's DB Super... Not sure if he's at planet buster levels but he is standing against SSB Goku and doing better than he would have against final form Frieza. Granted, if you follow the manga's theory about SSB losing power over repeated uses, SSB may not be at full power as Goku had used it a lot recently (twice within the past 24 hours).
But even so, base Goku was kicking around a trained up final form Frieza like he was nothing during the Rez F arc.
So, is Krillin a planet buster and when did he achieve this status?
But then there's DB Super... Not sure if he's at planet buster levels but he is standing against SSB Goku and doing better than he would have against final form Frieza. Granted, if you follow the manga's theory about SSB losing power over repeated uses, SSB may not be at full power as Goku had used it a lot recently (twice within the past 24 hours).
But even so, base Goku was kicking around a trained up final form Frieza like he was nothing during the Rez F arc.
So, is Krillin a planet buster and when did he achieve this status?
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Kuririn, after the Recoome fight, was fighting on par with Ginyu in Goku's body, who had a battle power of 23,000, while Saiyan arc Vegeta was capable of blowing up Earth at a battle power of 18,000. In short, he is most likely a planet buster after the Recoome fight.
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It's filler, but Vegeta blows up a planet before reaching Earth for the very first time (Saiyan Saga, specifically Planet Arlia). If Saiyan Saga Vegeta could blow up a planet, I'm pretty sure post-Freeza Krillin could as well.
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Roshi could blow up the moon in the original Dragon Ball. Now let that sink in.
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That's a good point actually. So the question isn't IF Krillin can blow up a planet, it's when did he gain the power?Captain Strawberry wrote:Roshi could blow up the moon in the original Dragon Ball. Now let that sink in.
And for the record, I don't count Vegeta's destruction of Arlia as it is filler, and possibly not legitimate as a result.
Filler power =/= Actual power
As for a planet, a moon isn't really a planet, as IIRC, Pluto is larger than Earth's moon but has been demoted from planetary status for being too small (though I think it's only due to updated standards).
I'm talking more along the lines of something like Earth, Mercury, Venus or Mars. Do take note that I left out the gas giants...
Or something along the lines of Planet Vegeta for that matter.
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Once he got his potential unlocked is when I think he became a planet buster. I think Nappa and up are planet busters
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They went for over 31 years before having Goku destroy a planet, even though he could for the majority of that time, so how long do you suppose they'll go before Krillin gets a chance to destroy one? Until then, arguing if he can or not is kind of pointless.
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I'd say he turned into a planetbuster on Namek. We know Vegeta was capable of destroying Earth when he arrived. On Namek, Krillin came close to Earth-Vegeta, if not surpassing him. (I'm not sure about the power scalings here)
We have no way of knowing if he actually has any techniques that could do it, but he most certainly has the strength to do after the Grand Elder powerup. I think that if he put his mind to it, he could quickly make a new technique with planetbuster power.
We have no way of knowing if he actually has any techniques that could do it, but he most certainly has the strength to do after the Grand Elder powerup. I think that if he put his mind to it, he could quickly make a new technique with planetbuster power.
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According to the story, so far he is not one, yet. There's no onscreen feat of that.cheddarsword wrote:So, is Krillin a planet buster and when did he achieve this status?
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Do you really think they're ever going to write a scene where Krillin destroys a planet, or even singlehandedly defeats someone who destroyed one?Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:According to the story, so far he is not one, yet. There's no onscreen feat of that.cheddarsword wrote:So, is Krillin a planet buster and when did he achieve this status?
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If the writers feel like doing so, then yes.Polyphase Avatron wrote: Do you really think they're ever going to write a scene where Krillin destroys a planet, or even singlehandedly defeats someone who destroyed one?
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As much as Blueku was holding back, nobody on the face of this earth can tell me his Kamehameha wasn't at least planet busting. He absolutely had to be using more than a single trillionth of his power.
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Who's to say he can't hold back much more? Isn't Ki control what SSBlue excels at, is it?nickzambuto wrote:As much as Blueku was holding back, nobody on the face of this earth can tell me his Kamehameha wasn't at least planet busting. He absolutely had to be using more than a single trillionth of his power.
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To be fair, i dont think blowing planet is as impressive as some people think, Master Roshi manager to blew up Moon, and he was below 500
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No doubt about it in my mind.nickzambuto wrote:As much as Blueku was holding back, nobody on the face of this earth can tell me his Kamehameha wasn't at least planet busting. He absolutely had to be using more than a single trillionth of his power.
But at the core of my question wasn't weather or not Krillin had ever destroyed a planet but rather if he had the power to do it and when he attained that power.
So then I guess the question is, at what point is a character considered a planet buster?
Also, According to Daizenshu 7, Nappa's power level was 4000 (40,000 Oozaru).
Vegeta states his power level was 18,000 (180,000 Oozaru). He DOES threaten to destroy the planet without Oozaru form by using his Gallic gun however, which if I'm not mistaken is an even match for Goku's Kaioken X3, which multiplies in an odd way IIRC...
So does this mean, Arlia or not, Saiyan Saga Vegeta is a planet buster? If so, I'd say he sets the bar, though I do feel that maybe 15,000 would suffice. Not sure about 10,000 though. Sorry Bardock and baby Broly!
coola wrote:To be fair, i dont think blowing planet is as impressive as some people think, Master Roshi manager to blew up Moon, and he was below 500
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That being said, just because Roshi and Piccolo can blow up the moon doesn't mean they can blow up the Earth completely. Though I do admit that it wouldn't be a pretty sight.
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It actually takes about 1600x more energy to destroy the Earth than the moon, IIRC. According to real physics at least.
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Then why on earth would he transform if he's just going to hold back that much?Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Who's to say he can't hold back much more? Isn't Ki control what SSBlue excels at, is it?nickzambuto wrote:As much as Blueku was holding back, nobody on the face of this earth can tell me his Kamehameha wasn't at least planet busting. He absolutely had to be using more than a single trillionth of his power.
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That's ridiculous.According to the story, so far he is not one, yet. There's no onscreen feat of that.
Krillin knows the Kamehameha, a technique that we know can destroy heavenly bodies if enough power is put behind it -- the same move Roshi used to destroy the moon, and what Cell was going to wipe out Earth and the whole solar system with. And we know that his power level has been above Vegeta's initial 18,000 ever since the Ginyu-in-Goku's-body fight (and it's only gone up since then -- 75,000 by the end of the Freeza battle, and then there were three years of training for the Androids after that, and a possibility that he's kept up training since then.)
So... we know that Krillin knows at least one technique that can destroy planets, and we know he's more powerful than the weakest known "planet buster," at least several times more powerful, probably far beyond that. Knowing that, it's just plain dumb to claim Krillin can't destroy a planet because "durrrr no featz."
When people refer to characters being "planet busters," they don't mean "someone who HAS blown up a planet," they mean "someone who COULD."
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He's obviously a planet buster. Freaking Yamcha could be one and he's not even close to Tenshinhan's strength.
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Krillin's been able to blow up a planet since Namek.
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