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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
Yeah, basically everyone else fills in Tomioka's gaps.
When was Tomioka's last episode btw?
When was Tomioka's last episode btw?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
85.ArchedThunder wrote:Yeah, basically everyone else fills in Tomioka's gaps.
When was Tomioka's last episode btw?
I always have the impression like Tomioka is doing episodes who're mentionned in Toriyama's script, while others are doing episodes to drag out the story. Weird, haha.
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Animator's corner doesn't seem to be updated for some weeks now. Is there any other site we can use to track info about the staff and other shows?
Good to know. He's by far my favourite writer.Psykomatik wrote:Since it basically became the "Animation Staff Discussion Thread", i asked Yoshitaka Toshio on twitter when he'll be back, and he said he's doing the episode which will air in 3 weeks... So episode 90!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
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Who did that shot? To me, it looks like someone traced over a Toyotaro panel...
Who did that shot? To me, it looks like someone traced over a Toyotaro panel...
Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
i think it's a Miyuki Yokoyama correctionPsykomatik wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]
Who did that shot? To me, it looks like someone traced over a Toyotaro panel...
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Finally a good nose, It has to be a tracing, either way they wouldn't be doing that nosePsykomatik wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]
Who did that shot? To me, it looks like someone traced over a Toyotaro panel...
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Oh, I really like that setting!Sodhi wrote:#89 Image
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The background is very pretty, looking forward to it.
Wonder who that artist is there, could be Nii I guess, Goku looks kinda similar to episode 82.
Wonder who that artist is there, could be Nii I guess, Goku looks kinda similar to episode 82.
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Just out of curiosity, what do people think is Tates best episode on the show?
It really doesn't matter if you like his work or not, I just want to know what people think his best animated episode is and why.
Personally, I'm sticking to my guns on #86, generally due to everything about the episode being so solid, even though there is an argument that his looped frames were a little awkward, I think everything surrounding them more than made up for it.
It really doesn't matter if you like his work or not, I just want to know what people think his best animated episode is and why.
Personally, I'm sticking to my guns on #86, generally due to everything about the episode being so solid, even though there is an argument that his looped frames were a little awkward, I think everything surrounding them more than made up for it.
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The backgrounds are always amazing in super. Whoever's doing them needs a raise.
Also, favorite Tate episode is 38. Goku versus hit in that episode was amazing. I remember just sitting in my seat and being shocked about how great it was.
Also, favorite Tate episode is 38. Goku versus hit in that episode was amazing. I remember just sitting in my seat and being shocked about how great it was.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
My favorite episode that he supervised... I guess it would have to be Episode 38. It's one of the few episodes that actually move from the first tournament, and it moves pretty well even in retrospect. That atmosphere was also pretty good for such a repetitive setting.JazzMazz wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do people think is Tates best episode on the show?
It really doesn't matter if you like his work or not, I just want to know what people think his best animated episode is and why.
Personally, I'm sticking to my guns on #86, generally due to everything about the episode being so solid, even though there is an argument that his looped frames were a little awkward, I think everything surrounding them more than made up for it.
As for my favorite cut, it would have to be the one he contributed to in Episode 63.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
So yeah, that looks like it's probably this artist.
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I wonder if this is Nii or someone who works under him.
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I wonder if this is Nii or someone who works under him.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
It's a tie between episode 47 (Black's badass entrance) and episode 56 (Super Saiyan Rose reveal).JazzMazz wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do people think is Tates best episode on the show?
The beautiful storyboard played a big role on the first one though. And of course, Sumitomo's godlike Desperate Assault soundtrack makes every scene where it plays much more memorable.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 86
As an AD, #86 for me as well. His half was very good. He left a stronger mark in #38 probably, but #86 was a stronger combined effort and a much better setting. The storyboard and art direction helped him a lot and Tsuji was also fine with her corrections.JazzMazz wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do people think is Tates best episode on the show?
His best cuts are in #86 again. That's how you do looped frames. The smeary action, the impact hits and once again the great setting all combined to produce one of the best animated battle scenes in the franchise. Though, his cuts in #26 are just as good. Many would say it's better and I can totally understand why one would think so.
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What are your thoughts on the criticism leveled at Tate's repeated frames during those scenes? Why did they stick out to you in a more positive manner?Saikyo no Senshi wrote:As an AD, #86 for me as well. His half was very good. He left a stronger mark in #38 probably, but #86 was a stronger combined effort and a much better setting. The storyboard and art direction helped him a lot and Tsuji was also fine with her corrections.JazzMazz wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do people think is Tates best episode on the show?
His best cuts are in #86 again. That's how you do looped frames. The smeary action, the impact hits and once again the great setting all combined to produce one of the best animated battle scenes in the franchise. Though, his cuts in #26 are just as good. Many would say it's better and I can totally understand why one would think so.
ArchedThunder wrote:So I thought I'd anaylize Tate's clashes from this episode to really try and put into words why I'm not a fan of them, keep in mind this is coming from a Tate fan and I think the rest of the animation he did in the episode was great, it's just the clashes I don't like.
We'll just focus on the far out ones, the close ups don't bother me all that much and the one when they are shooting down to the ocean I actually like.
17 is moving around enough, but Goku is incredibly stiff looking. On top of that there are multiple frames where limbs are being stretched out way too much and it becomes incredibly obvious that it is happening since the frames are repeated multiple times in the clash.
Here's the frames that I think really ruin this clash;
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Stretching limbs out to make animation smoother and more dynamic is a great technique, but in a clash that is a few frames repeated over and over without any tweens I don't think it works at all.
Here is a frame that achieves the same thing I think Tate was going for, but it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in the animation;
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The next clash;
In this one the clash doesn't really loop properly and it makes them look like they're snapping to a different spot when the clash loops instead of it coming together smoothly. This cut also has the same issue of limbs being stretched out too much, but it's not as noticeable because the limbs are thinner so it almost looks like they are just stretched out due to the shadows being cast by the sun right behind them.
Now for the final clash that I have a problem with;
I don't know how many will agree with me, but honestly I think this cut is the worst part of the entire episode. Both characters are incredibly stiff and the limb stretching is at its worst.
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and the worst offending frame for what I'm talking about;
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There's not really any flow and their arms barely look like arms.
That's just my two cents, again I love Tate and I think the rest of his work on the episode was great, it's just that these cuts stood out to me and kinda brought things down a bit.
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does anyone have the staff list for battle of gods and resurrection F movies ?
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http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/revival-of-f/Nasryyy wrote:does anyone have the staff list for battle of gods and resurrection F movies ?
I'm surprised that Hisashi Eguchi was animating some of RoF.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/battle-of-gods/
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Didn't he say that he was corrected by Tadayoshi Yamamuro in an interview with Masaki Sato?Gashif Aldi wrote:http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/revival-of-f/Nasryyy wrote:does anyone have the staff list for battle of gods and resurrection F movies ?
I'm surprised that Hisashi Eguchi here.
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Well, I guess I missed that one. My bad. I thought that Eguchi criticized him before RoF and BoG was a thing.JazzMazz wrote:Didn't he say that he was corrected by Tadayoshi Yamamuro in an interview with Masaki Sato?Gashif Aldi wrote:http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/revival-of-f/Nasryyy wrote:does anyone have the staff list for battle of gods and resurrection F movies ?
I'm surprised that Hisashi Eguchi here.
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