batistabus wrote:Kale is significant because it speaks directly to Toei's approach to the series. Do what will be popular and sell well above all.
Going by this mentality, then readers should equally judge Toyotaro when he blatantly used a similar thought process when he also including Vegetto Blue within the manga.
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It seems rather hypocritical to expect an enthusiastic fellowman like Toyotaro
not to input his own or fan desires to appease other fans like him, but then easily condemn a staff team that is also littered with some like-minded folks people (Toshio comes to mind) for doing the same. At the end of the day, both the staff and Toyotaro are guilty of this, but still talk to Toriyama to get some feedback and approval for these ideas (and he's no stranger to flat out rejecting them either). Whether or not the execution works is up to the viewer/reader.
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My point has nothing to do with the manga being black and white. How much marketing have you seen for secondary products relating to the anime vs the manga? I've seen plenty of Ikari, mutated Zamasu, SSBKK, and Omen figures, but I have yet to see a SSG Vegeta or SS Black (which was Toriyama's idea, btw).
Firstly, let's remember that the animated depictions of Super are considered the primary source for the Super Era, since it started out as being the first animated continuation after the Buu Saga (canon debates aside). The Super manga, being in V-Jump, serves as a promotional material for series to this day, despite having some liberties taken and the aforementioned anime recently concluded (Remember, there's still a Super-associated movie coming in December, and Toyotaro's expected to tie into that as well).
In this instance, the Super Manga is no different from a novelization book made for another series, that also take liberties with the source material (sometimes expanding on concepts that the original didn't cover, or using scrapped ideas that the original source negated). So personally, I wouldn't be too surprised if merchandising material focused on the anime's events rather on another product's similar events. Then again, going by Baggie Saiyan's
analysis of how Super's [lack of] timely and varied merchandise, I'm not too sure if they're handling that aspect well either.
That being said, for merchandise that references the manga, you would look towards the video games. Super Dragon Ball Heroes has manga-exclusive moves for specific Vegeta and Goku cards, such as the Gamma Burst Flash for Vegeta and the recently debuted Hakai variation for Goku.
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Xenoverse 2's DLC characters include Champa and Fused Zamasu, whose fighting styles and moves take clear inspirations from their manga counterparts. (Champa's God of Destruction's Menace and Fused Zamasu's telekinetic manipulation and choke, along with his anime's abilities, come to mind).
Dokkan Battle, meanwhile, borrows from the aforementioned. Slowly, but surely, material from the manga is getting adapted into other major merchandise. Which is great in my book, because I'd like to see Toyotaro's ideas equally have some chance in the limelight! Who knows, maybe you'll get an official God Vegeta and Super Saiyan Goku Black in the next two years?