You also have Devilman Crybaby and the 2005 Guyver anime too.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:06 pmAnime remakes have a great track record, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter, Fruits Basket, Hellsing Ultimate, Shaman King and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure all spring to mind as generally well liked and in some cases surpassing the original.
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I don't want a DB remake/new adaption not until a very long time. The original anime is still a classic even if it has pacing issues and some dated content.
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Tokyo Mew Mew New was also greatHellspawn28 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:24 pm I don't want a DB remake/new adaption not until a very long time. The original anime is still a classic even if it has pacing issues and some dated content.
You also have Devilman Crybaby and the 2005 Guyver anime too.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:06 pmAnime remakes have a great track record, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter, Fruits Basket, Hellsing Ultimate, Shaman King and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure all spring to mind as generally well liked and in some cases surpassing the original.
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I feel a bit mixed on this. On the one hand the filler in One Piece is a major turn off to the point of making Z's worst filler feel like a breeze. A way to watch One Piece without all that would certainly be welcome, as I've basically given up on the anime at this point.
On the other hand I really enjoyed the live action show, and that already provides a condensed version of the story. Having this anime remake come out at the same time might be overkill. The 2 Netflix shows could end up competing with each other for ratings, as many will only watch one or the other.
Maybe this really will just be the East Blue story again and nothing more. They already retold that story twice; first with the Episode of Alabasta movie, and then the live action show. This will be the 3rd retelling (4th if you count the OG anime as a retelling of the Manga).
I have to wonder if Toei would ever bother remaking DB from the ground up. They might be hesitant after Kai failed to sell toys, and the fanbase might react negatively to an attempt to "replace" the original anime. It would be a bold move for sure.
On the other hand some fans might actually prefer to see DB/Z remade to something like Daima. That original story is still considered untouchable when compared to stuff like GT and Super.
On the other hand I really enjoyed the live action show, and that already provides a condensed version of the story. Having this anime remake come out at the same time might be overkill. The 2 Netflix shows could end up competing with each other for ratings, as many will only watch one or the other.
Maybe this really will just be the East Blue story again and nothing more. They already retold that story twice; first with the Episode of Alabasta movie, and then the live action show. This will be the 3rd retelling (4th if you count the OG anime as a retelling of the Manga).
I have to wonder if Toei would ever bother remaking DB from the ground up. They might be hesitant after Kai failed to sell toys, and the fanbase might react negatively to an attempt to "replace" the original anime. It would be a bold move for sure.
On the other hand some fans might actually prefer to see DB/Z remade to something like Daima. That original story is still considered untouchable when compared to stuff like GT and Super.
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Seems like it could be another company if a DB remake happens seeing how it's happening with One Piece.90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:48 pm I have to wonder if Toei would ever bother remaking DB from the ground up. They might be hesitant after Kai failed to sell toys, and the fanbase might react negatively to an attempt to "replace" the original anime. It would be a bold move for sure.
On the other hand some fans might actually prefer to see DB/Z remade to something like Daima. That original story is still considered untouchable when compared to stuff like GT and Super.
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I question how long the live action One Piece will go on for. Evidently season 2 is coming and that will probably bring us to the end of Alabasta. I'd like to see further seasons to cover Skipiea, Water 7 and so on, but I don't know if it's likely the series will be renewed for more seasons beyond that given Netflix's history.90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:48 pmOn the other hand I really enjoyed the live action show, and that already provides a condensed version of the story. Having this anime remake come out at the same time might be overkill. The 2 Netflix shows could end up competing with each other for ratings, as many will only watch one or the other.
I'd love to be proven wrong though.
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The live action Yu Yu Hakusho doesn't give me much hope either. The look, the cast, and the performances are good, but they condensed WAY too much story into too few episodes. It went from 64 24-minute episodes to FIVE 50-minute episodes. They hit a lot of the big plot points, but the story and the emotion are gutted.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:55 amI question how long the live action One Piece will go on for. Evidently season 2 is coming and that will probably bring us to the end of Alabasta. I'd like to see further seasons to cover Skipiea, Water 7 and so on, but I don't know if it's likely the series will be renewed for more seasons beyond that given Netflix's history.90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:48 pmOn the other hand I really enjoyed the live action show, and that already provides a condensed version of the story. Having this anime remake come out at the same time might be overkill. The 2 Netflix shows could end up competing with each other for ratings, as many will only watch one or the other.
I'd love to be proven wrong though.
There isn't as much plot in DB as YYH, but condensing of material for DB is still tricky.
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How do we know this is a complete redo of the manga to last another 30 years? Maybe it's more like Path to Power where it just retells a specific section.
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All the reports specified the East Blue saga. So yes it is a remake of a specific section and not an attempt to redo 1000+ episodes.DefinitiveDubs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:52 am How do we know this is a complete redo of the manga to last another 30 years? Maybe it's more like Path to Power where it just retells a specific section.
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That's not true. They said they're starting at East Blue...because that's the start. They never said when or if they were stopping.
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I wanted to disagree with Majin Buu on another thread that its not good to say One Piece doesnt really have 1000 episodes, they can easily be squeezed into WAY LESS than that. I disagreed becuase like it or not that-s the ammount of episodes One Piece has but that doesnt need to be true for this new remake.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:13 pmAll the reports specified the East Blue saga. So yes it is a remake of a specific section and not an attempt to redo 1000+ episodes.DefinitiveDubs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:52 am How do we know this is a complete redo of the manga to last another 30 years? Maybe it's more like Path to Power where it just retells a specific section.
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Yeah, but then you have remakes that are so lifeless and bland that you question why the studio even bothered. A recent example: the Urusei Yatsura remake from last year. It's so boring that I forgot it was made last year.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:06 pmAnime remakes have a great track record, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter, Fruits Basket, Hellsing Ultimate, Shaman King and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure all spring to mind as generally well liked and in some cases surpassing the original.
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Lots of people praise that remake. I don't like the Rurouni Kenshin remake personally.BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:55 pmYeah, but then you have remakes that are so lifeless and bland that you question why the studio even bothered. A recent example: the Urusei Yatsura remake from last year. It's so boring that I forgot it was made last year.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:06 pmAnime remakes have a great track record, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter, Fruits Basket, Hellsing Ultimate, Shaman King and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure all spring to mind as generally well liked and in some cases surpassing the original.
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If WIT is in charge of this remake, I wonder how long it'll be before they give up and hand control of the series over to MAPPA.
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I mean the Urusei Yatsura remake is perfectly fine technically speaking, but nothing about it really stands out to me beyond the op's and ed's. Also I like how Lum has an almost neon glow thing going on with her hair.sangofe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:00 pmLots of people praise that remake. I don't like the Rurouni Kenshin remake personally.BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:55 pmYeah, but then you have remakes that are so lifeless and bland that you question why the studio even bothered. A recent example: the Urusei Yatsura remake from last year. It's so boring that I forgot it was made last year.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:06 pm
Anime remakes have a great track record, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter, Fruits Basket, Hellsing Ultimate, Shaman King and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure all spring to mind as generally well liked and in some cases surpassing the original.
It's not bad, but it it just feels like the standard seasonal anime.
While a hypothetical Dragon Ball remake without the filler and without the drastic changes in art quality between studios sounds amazing, it could also not live up to the quality of the original and become "just another anime" that gets churned out mid season. Considering it's legacy I'd want Dragon Ball to be more than that.
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Here's the thing: The announcement calls this adaptation "fresh but familiar" from the anime adaptation. Ideally Netflix is doing this because a bunch of people are now interested in the anime thanks to the live-action show. If the barrier of entry for newbies is the length of the anime and the manga, does doing a "DB Kai/Brotherhood" style remake fix the issue? Probably not.
My thinking? This is a remake that will be different from both the Toei anime and the original manga. If the goal is to be accessible to people who watched the Netflix series, I absolutely see "The One Piece" heavily condensing the events of the East Blue Saga to make it much easier for people to get into.
My thinking? This is a remake that will be different from both the Toei anime and the original manga. If the goal is to be accessible to people who watched the Netflix series, I absolutely see "The One Piece" heavily condensing the events of the East Blue Saga to make it much easier for people to get into.
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I'm still surprised one Piece will get a remake. Surprised because how long the series is, Toei version is still airing and won't end anytime soon, and how it's happening before Dragon Ball and Naruto got one.
I always assumed the TV Specials they have been doing to recap past arcs in higher quality would be the as close as we would get to a full remake. Even with fast pacing, remake everything from the beginning seems crazy.
As for Dragon Ball I would like a remake or reboot too one day, but not now. I rather have new stories while Toriyama is with us.
I wouldn't mind if we got the kind of TV Specials One Piece has been having though. A TV Special recapping Zamasu arc in high quality is long overdue.
I always assumed the TV Specials they have been doing to recap past arcs in higher quality would be the as close as we would get to a full remake. Even with fast pacing, remake everything from the beginning seems crazy.
As for Dragon Ball I would like a remake or reboot too one day, but not now. I rather have new stories while Toriyama is with us.
I wouldn't mind if we got the kind of TV Specials One Piece has been having though. A TV Special recapping Zamasu arc in high quality is long overdue.
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
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The reveal of this remake, while we get that Chibi Special, makes me question everything. I get that OP is the golden goose, been so for 2 decades, and looks to be so 2 decades more with this remake. But Dragonball is profitable too...right?
Surely a remake would break bank......right?
Dragonball is too big to fail.........right?
Surely a remake would break bank......right?
Dragonball is too big to fail.........right?
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Yes, Dragonball is too big to fail. It doesn't matter how badly cropped a release is, how bad the video is, how abysmally poorly dubbed it is, how it's no better than whatever the previous release is, idiots will still be lining up around the block to buy whatever gets shat out.FoolsGil wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:44 am The reveal of this remake, while we get that Chibi Special, makes me question everything. I get that OP is the golden goose, been so for 2 decades, and looks to be so 2 decades more with this remake. But Dragonball is profitable too...right?
Surely a remake would break bank......right?
Dragonball is too big to fail.........right?
Meanwhile, One Piece has the very easily observable problem of a lot of people's first reaction to it these days being "over 1000 episodes? Uh, I'll skip". That's something this remake can change.
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Is it really that big of an issue? Its success would imply otherwise.Adamant wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:49 amYes, Dragonball is too big to fail. It doesn't matter how badly cropped a release is, how bad the video is, how abysmally poorly dubbed it is, how it's no better than whatever the previous release is, idiots will still be lining up around the block to buy whatever gets shat out.FoolsGil wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:44 am The reveal of this remake, while we get that Chibi Special, makes me question everything. I get that OP is the golden goose, been so for 2 decades, and looks to be so 2 decades more with this remake. But Dragonball is profitable too...right?
Surely a remake would break bank......right?
Dragonball is too big to fail.........right?
Meanwhile, One Piece has the very easily observable problem of a lot of people's first reaction to it these days being "over 1000 episodes? Uh, I'll skip". That's something this remake can change.
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You say "fresh but familiar" and now alarm bells are going off in my head that this is going to be like Netflix's Scott Pilgrim show, where the whole thing is just going to be completely different after the first episode.kemuri07 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:23 pm Here's the thing: The announcement calls this adaptation "fresh but familiar" from the anime adaptation. Ideally Netflix is doing this because a bunch of people are now interested in the anime thanks to the live-action show. If the barrier of entry for newbies is the length of the anime and the manga, does doing a "DB Kai/Brotherhood" style remake fix the issue? Probably not.
My thinking? This is a remake that will be different from both the Toei anime and the original manga. If the goal is to be accessible to people who watched the Netflix series, I absolutely see "The One Piece" heavily condensing the events of the East Blue Saga to make it much easier for people to get into.