Dubbing in voices that don't speak

[SaiyaMel]

Why does Funi and other dubbing companies, dub in voices that have dialog? I understand why new background music is added,, but with the non-speaking voices - I don't understand the point of that... and the voices dubbed in end up sounding more phony than in the original. To me in those cases - they're better off left as they are..

For example, the crying of baby Kakkarot and baby Trunks, are both done by Stephony Nadalny. Like I said in another thread,, Masako Nozawa is loads better at imitating a realistic baby cry...

Also, in the dubbed Bardock special, the oozarus' roars were dubbed in... what the hell? They sounded just fine in the original. As is said - if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

At least from what I remember - Bubbles' original monkey hooting is retained.

[NeptuneKai]

Maybe I'm wrong but if you use someone else's voice in your dub don't you have to pay them? Don't they also have to agree to be in your dub? Instead of going through all that shit I think they just went the easy route and did their own version of *insert noise making creature here*.

[Innagadadavida]

The big monkey's roars are HORRIBLE. They clearly sound like a guy, not a 100 foot beast.

They should have just sampled a lion, or a tiger, or a bear. (Resisting urge to say "oh-my")

[SaiyaMel]

Maybe I'm wrong but if you use someone else's voice in your dub don't you have to pay them? Don't they also have to agree to be in your dub? Instead of going through all that shit I think they just went the easy route and did their own version of *insert noise making creature here*.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking myself.

@Innagadadavida:
They certainly sound gay in the dub. I noticed that when I watched the new digitally remastered Bardock special in English on Youtube.

[Bussani]

It bothers me more when they add dialog where there was no dialog before. Like Gohan monologueing in his head before going SSJ2. They seem to have something against silent scenes.

Ghibli's Kiki's Delivery Service is especially guilty of this. Half the dialog in the dub wasn't in the original. It's like, "Hey, no one's saying anything during this establishing shot. Let's add some dialog."

[Rocketman]

Why would you want an accurate baby cry? Nuclear explosions are easier on the ears than babies.

[Zuhalter2000]

lion, or a tiger, or a bear

Oh my!

[SSj_Rambo]

Maybe because FUNi saw it as too much work to edit out little pieces of the original audio and sync it up with the new dub track.

[JulieYBM]

They don't want to pay the Japanese actors for appearing in their dubs.

[Kid Trunks]

I don't see whats so bad about Naldony's baby Trunks and Goku, or any of the Oozaru sounds. They sound decent to me.

[Super Sonic]

With animals it can depend. No one complained about Ryo-Ohki being dubbed. Similar to Totoro in the new dub. Hear people talk about the people, but not Totoro being dubbed in the new one.

[Horgus]

It's really at a point to where I cannot even watch the dubs anymore. The difference in quality is just so noticeable that it's like watching an entirely different show.

[SSJ2bardock]

I don't even notice things like this, to me a baby crying is a baby crying.

[Tsukento]

In One Piece during the Jaya arc, there is a scene where seagulls are flying by. During this scene, one can easily tell that these are a person making the cries for them. This was the Japanese version.

Along comes FUNi and they caught a few attentive people off guard by using ACTUAL seagull cries in the dub.

Sometimes, it's not always so bad.

[Herms]

Perhaps it has something to do with it being easier to replace the whole voice track rather than keeping certain bits in? I remember that in Serial Experiments Lain, the incomprehensible voices over the telephone lines were dubbed, which I always wondered about. So it's not just a Funi thing (incidentally, does anyone know if Ein was dubbed in Cowboy Bebop?).

[Tatsunoboshi Horoko]

I think it has more to do with whether or not the voice is actually a person or not. I think Ein was comprised of sounds from a real Welsh Corgi, hence, he wouldn't have to be dubbed over. Although, if it's just grunting and/or animal sounds from a human, more than likely, the character will be dubbed over.

[Bussani]

Perhaps it has something to do with it being easier to replace the whole voice track rather than keeping certain bits in? I remember that in Serial Experiments Lain, the incomprehensible voices over the telephone lines were dubbed, which I always wondered about. So it's not just a Funi thing (incidentally, does anyone know if Ein was dubbed in Cowboy Bebop?).

I was going to mention something like this, but I realized I didn't know enough about it to talk like I knew what I was talking about. I seem to remember something about how in older dubs it was sometimes difficult to replace selective parts of the sound track since the sound came as one big track. In cases like this they'd have to redo sound effects if they couldn't get hold of the original.

[Saiyajin no Tatsujin]

I hope I'm not being too off topic here, but the thread title had me thinking of something a little different.

I've always found it annoying how FUNi added extra dialogue to a character when the camera wasn't facing them. Like, in moments where there was silence in the Japanese version, they threw in a few lines in the dub for whatever reason.

Why do you guys think they had to add in that extra dialogue?

[VegettoEX]

Perhaps it has something to do with it being easier to replace the whole voice track rather than keeping certain bits in? I remember that in Serial Experiments Lain, the incomprehensible voices over the telephone lines were dubbed, which I always wondered about. So it's not just a Funi thing (incidentally, does anyone know if Ein was dubbed in Cowboy Bebop?).

I always assumed this was the reason. Those voice samples are not on their own individual tracks; they're mixed in with the general voice track for the entire episode/movie/etc. They can't just be pulled out on an individual basis, so if you replace one voice, you have to replace every single "voice".

Why do you guys think they had to add in that extra dialogue?

Whole entire monster of a separate conversation .

[Saiyajin no Tatsujin]

Yeah, my bad. I was just on another train of thought. lol

They probably added in those extra lines so it would be easier for us dumb American kids to understand what the hell was going on. Or, to make some of the characters, especially Goku, sound like they were smarter than they really were.