Sensing ki from the afterlife.

[Nazi Cola]

Did Goku say something that showed he couldn't sense Super Perfect Cell's ki from the afterlife?

[Savage68]

His knowledge of Gohan's suppressed Kamehameha seemed to indicate that he could sense the powers on Earth. He couldn't initially, though. Plot devices such as this don't come as much of a surprise, since that battle (Super Perfect Cell's debut in particular) was the dumbest and most pathetic attempt at "loldrama" in the series. And in the Buu arc, Goku can sense even Goten & Trunks' power from the Kaioshinkai. So he should've definitely felt Cell's ki.

[EnmaDaiou]

Goku said he didn't sense Cells Ki because Cell was not near.
Cell was supposed to be with Goku and Kaiou.

To sense something distant needs more concentration.

[Savage68]

He seemed to sense Kaio's ki fairly easily right before he used Instant Movement at the Cell Games.

[EnmaDaiou]

He seemed to sense Kaio's ki fairly easily right before he used Instant Movement at the Cell Games.

He had a time to concentrate.

I don't think it's that difficult.

But I think his reaction was normal. Goku was expecting that Cell was near.
But he was very far from him.

[Bussani]

In the Viz translation, Goku only says that he doesn't see Cell's soul, not even that he can't sense him. Kaio figures out that Cell's alive just from that. Also, Goku could sense Namekians from Kaio's planet so long as he knew which way to look. It all depends on your skill levels, how familiar you are with the ki, and how strong the ki is at the time, I guess.

[Savage68]

In the Viz translation, Goku only says that he doesn't see Cell's soul, not even that he can't sense him.

That's heavily implied though, since if Goku felt the ki, he wouldn't have been surprised that Cell survived. He'd have known right from off the bat that Cell never truly died. No one really seemed to catch on to this until Trunks was killed. And it's especially weird, since it's not like SPC was suppressed or anything.

[Bussani]

I was replying to this, really. Probably should have made it more obvious.

Goku said he didn't sense Cells Ki because Cell was not near.

[Perfect]

In the Viz translation, Goku only says that he doesn't see Cell's soul, not even that he can't sense him.

That's heavily implied though, since if Goku felt the ki, he wouldn't have been surprised that Cell survived. He'd have known right from off the bat that Cell never truly died. No one really seemed to catch on to this until Trunks was killed. And it's especially weird, since it's not like SPC was suppressed or anything.

Trunks died a few seconds after Cell arrived on Earth. Plus he was in the afterlife when he regenerated, so I doubt they'd be able to feel him from there unless they all concentrated. It's the same type of thing when Gohan fired a bigger Kamehameha at Cell when he was trying to destroy Earth. A few of them thought he was dead, but his life-force was still there. It's likely that Goku could sense Cell's chi during the time in which he was charging his Solar Kamehameha. Filler suggests that the chi from his blast could be felt all the way to Namek. When Kaio-sama tells Goku that Cell somehow survived the blast, Cell is really just standing there on Earth, with sparks flying. I'm sure if he looked in the right direction to sense his power level, he'd be able to do so, meaning it's likely he did during the beam struggle.

[Savage68]

Goku/Kaio in the afterlife...may need to concentrate in order to sense Super Perfect Cell's ki...who's also in the afterlife?

Since when is concentration necessary to feel a large ki?

[Perfect]

Goku/Kaio in the afterlife...may need to concentrate in order to sense Super Perfect Cell's ki...who's also in the afterlife?

Since when is concentration necessary to feel a large ki?

I was referring to when Cell was on Earth. I'm not sure how the mechanics of someone dying and allowing to keep their bodies works compared to someone coming back to the brink extinction. It could be they missed him by a fraction of a second.

[dbgtFO]

Goku/Kaio in the afterlife...may need to concentrate in order to sense Super Perfect Cell's ki...who's also in the afterlife?

Since when is concentration necessary to feel a large ki?

I was referring to when Cell was on Earth. I'm not sure how the mechanics of someone dying and allowing to keep their bodies works compared to someone coming back to the brink extinction. It could be they missed him by a fraction of a second.

I agree with Perfect on this one it could have easily played it out with Cell going boom, then regenerating incredibly fast like within 5 seconds, then he learns of his SSJ2 like power and uses Shunkan Ido to go back to Earth. All in all only 10 seconds after his explosion, while exactly 2 seconds later Goku & Co. have now received their bodies thereby missing the opportunity to witness Cell's regeneration.
The only reason why it seemed to take that long is because of plot related reasons(having to see Goku with a halo and knowing that Cell isn't there) and also you can't show what's happening on Earth and Snakeway in just one frame anyway, so that is my explanation, you understand?? xD

[Perfect]

Goku/Kaio in the afterlife...may need to concentrate in order to sense Super Perfect Cell's ki...who's also in the afterlife?

Since when is concentration necessary to feel a large ki?

I was referring to when Cell was on Earth. I'm not sure how the mechanics of someone dying and allowing to keep their bodies works compared to someone coming back to the brink extinction. It could be they missed him by a fraction of a second.

I agree with Perfect on this one it could have easily played it out with Cell going boom, then regenerating incredibly fast like within 5 seconds, then he learns of his SSJ2 like power and uses Shunkan Ido to go back to Earth. All in all only 10 seconds after his explosion, while exactly 2 seconds later Goku & Co. have now received their bodies thereby missing the opportunity to witness Cell's regeneration.
The only reason why it seemed to take that long is because of plot related reasons(having to see Goku with a halo and knowing that Cell isn't there) and also you can't show what's happening on Earth and Snakeway in just one frame anyway, so that is my explanation, you understand?? xD

Yes I get what you're saying. The anime seems to have a bit of a delay as he's regenerating, but that could have happened during any number of seconds/minutes. I guess you could say it was delayed for effect, whereas the manga's is very short in comparison.

[Kingdom Heartless]

I agree with Perfect on this one it could have easily played it out with Cell going boom, then regenerating incredibly fast like within 5 seconds, then he learns of his SSJ2 like power and uses Shunkan Ido to go back to Earth. All in all only 10 seconds after his explosion, while exactly 2 seconds later Goku & Co. have now received their bodies thereby missing the opportunity to witness Cell's regeneration.
The only reason why it seemed to take that long is because of plot related reasons(having to see Goku with a halo and knowing that Cell isn't there) and also you can't show what's happening on Earth and Snakeway in just one frame anyway, so that is my explanation, you understand?? xD

I guess that would beg the question.... why didn't Trunks' soul show up?

I guess he could have been bearly alive for a while.

[Gaffer Tape]

Because he would have been in line for Enma, not near Kaio-sei.