Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

[Kingdom Heartless]

Did Shenlong or Porunga ever had a death time limit?

Yes, in Freeza saga Shen Long was stated to have a one year death time limit. This is how we know the Saiya-jin didn't come back to life only to die in the vacuum of space.

[Senzu_Bean]

Did Shenlong or Porunga ever had a death time limit?

Yes, in Freeza saga Shen Long was stated to have a one year death time limit. This is how we know the Saiya-jin didn't come back to life only to die in the vacuum of space.

But isn't the death time limit only for large number of people?

[Necrosaber]

"Muri: [r] That’s alright [l] The new Polunga has no death time limit."

Did Shenlong or Porunga ever had a death time limit?

IDK, for some reason I can't sympathize with this story. I'm pretty sure it is because GT-oriented. At least we know how Bra and Pan got Super Saiyan. What about Gohan?

Is it really that far-fetched to believe that Gohan was training intensely as well? Especially with all that happened?

Either way, I'm sure it'll be explained.

[rereboy]

Training alone doesn`t get you your tail back (required to go SSJ4). A explanation for Gohan is definitely required. As for the rest of the story, I find it good. I like DBM better, but this is good too.

[Necrosaber]

Well Gohan is pretty tight with Grand Kai, so he could helped him. Maybe Bulma build Gohan his own blutz wave machine to get him to that level, and he trained from there. (I actually hope it's the former, 'cause him using the machine would be pretty cheap)

[DNA]

Well Gohan is pretty tight with Grand Kai, so he could helped him. Maybe Bulma build Gohan his own blutz wave machine to get him to that level, and he trained from there. (I actually hope it's the former, 'cause him using the machine would be pretty cheap)

Which is pretty much how he gets all his power ups, via cheapness.

[Herms]

OK, translations are now fully revised. Or at least as revised as they're going to be.

But isn't the death time limit only for large number of people?

That's implied by how they phrase things in the series, but a lot of fans don't pick up on the distinction. I've heard one of the older video games had the Elder Kaioshin say that individual people can't be revived after a year though.

[Kingdom Heartless]

That's implied by how they phrase things in the series, but a lot of fans don't pick up on the distinction. I've heard one of the older video games had the Elder Kaioshin say that individual people can't be revived after a year though.

Interesting, I never knew that. I guess it would explain why no issues were ever brought up about Yamucha and co. staying dead for an extra year.

[Velasa]

Hey there. Just popping in again like I do ever so often to see if Piccolo's doing anything. Last time I asked, he was just keeping track of some badguys in Hell.... a long time ago.

[Rocketman]

Oh Velasa, don't be silly. Why would we need Piccolo when we have BROLY?

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Quit dissin' Broli... his power is maximum.

[Scarz]

I must have something against DB women because I was really mad when Pan and Bra suddenly transformed into super saiyans. I know it was going to happen eventually I just didn't think it would happen so suddenly. "We're Super Saiyans, we've been practicing." Really? REALLY?! How so convenient. It's like when Gohan suddenly transformed to SSJ4 with no explanation. Well, that's not true he has been training since Goku left. As much as stretch that was I was willing to go along with it.

[DNA]

It's like when Gohan suddenly transformed to SSJ4 with no explanation. Well, that's not true he has been training since Goku left. As much as stretch that was I was willing to go along with it.

Yeah, I agree, it is quite a strech to believe Gohan trains at all, ever.

[M4rb]

Edit: It seems the Extra final chapter of AF was available in an early release version of Dragon Ball AF#2. At least that's the information they have in that same website.

Indeed, I own DBAF #1-3 and the draft version of #2, and can confirm that the special chapter is available only in the #2 draft, which has become pretty rare recently.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Now as much as I love SSJ Pan and Bra (surely you all wanted that since GT), it seems toyble has been reading too much DBM lately, lol. Sigh more Broly when we could have had Future Trunks...

[Necrosaber]

Well I think having Broly was his intention for a long time. We've had the Super Saiyan 5 preview for over a year, and Broly was there.

Also, not sure if wishing Future Trunks there would've been very nice of them. I'd be pissed if I was poofed from my finally normal life, to some crazy battle in a totally different time period. Broly? Who cares what he wants.

[DNA]

Edit: It seems the Extra final chapter of AF was available in an early release version of Dragon Ball AF#2. At least that's the information they have in that same website.

Indeed, I own DBAF #1-3 and the draft version of #2, and can confirm that the special chapter is available only in the #2 draft, which has become pretty rare recently.

Would it be too much to ask you for nicer scans? The Zero scanlation you made was absolute gold; would love to see a similar treatment to this short story.

[Asura]

I was enjoying this story until the latest chapter. No offense but the plot just turned to shit right there. This whole "7 Light Super Saiyan" thing going on seems far fetched and just blatantly stupid. Pan and Bra's transformation made no sense. Seriously, maybe i'd atleast think about Pan but BRA? Is lifting her shopping bags gonna push her to Super Saiyan now? No offense, but I hope it gets better xD

[Necrosaber]

New updated from Toyble

買ってくれた人の手前、
全部アップするのは気が引けるので、
申し訳ないですが、続きを出し惜しんじゃいます…。

と言っても、いつまでも出さないわけにもいかないので、
次のコミケ12月末までには、
3巻分（残り19ページ）は全部出しちゃいます。

すいませんが、年末まではそんな感じで。
ってことで今回は1ページ…。

Looks like he's going to be still giving us the pages from Volume 3. Means we will probably be awhile before *we* see some new ones. Hoping I'm wrong.

[Rocketman]

Wait, I thought Goku took the Dragonballs with him when he vanished. Doesn't he absorb them as Shenron flies away? How are they with Dende?