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by HECTOR4 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:07 am
DNA wrote:Ok I'm getting confused about Yadrats.
Age 800:
- Planet Yardrat is destroyed and it's remains fall on Earth as meteorites.
Age 804:
- Yadrat related event.
Age 851:
- Miira destroys New Namek. The Nameks are forced to migrate to Earth.
Age 852:
- Event related to a meteorite.
Age 853:
- The Nameks terraform an area of Earth to make it look more like Planet Namek, they call it Porunga Rocks.
- The people on the planet Yardrat set a city on Earth.
Age 900:
- The Yadrats are investigating a Shunkanido Machine.
So in 100 years Yadrat is destroyed and meteorites fall on Earth, then some event related to them happens, then New Namek is destroyed, then more meteorites, then both Nameks and Yadrats built cities, and then the Yadrats start building a teleporting machine.
I'm really not sure about this. I think the events in the early 800's are actually set on the 850's.
I believe that Herms confused Yadrat to Namek. I think it would be this:
Age 804:
- Yadrat related event.
Age 851:
- Miira destroys New Namek. The Nameks are forced to migrate to Earth.
Age 852:
- New Namek's remains fall to Earth as meteorites.
Age 853:
- The Nameks terraform an area of Earth to make it look more like Planet Namek, they call it Porunga Rocks.
Age 900:
- The Yadrats are investigating a Shunkanido Machine.
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by HECTOR4 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:30 am
DNA wrote:Ok I'm getting confused about Yadrats.
Age 800:
- Planet Yardrat is destroyed and it's remains fall on Earth as meteorites.
Age 804:
- Yadrat related event.
Age 851:
- Miira destroys New Namek. The Nameks are forced to migrate to Earth.
Age 852:
- Event related to a meteorite.
Age 853:
- The Nameks terraform an area of Earth to make it look more like Planet Namek, they call it Porunga Rocks.
- The people on the planet Yardrat set a city on Earth.
Age 900:
- The Yadrats are investigating a Shunkanido Machine.
So in 100 years Yadrat is destroyed and meteorites fall on Earth, then some event related to them happens, then New Namek is destroyed, then more meteorites, then both Nameks and Yadrats built cities, and then the Yadrats start building a teleporting machine.
I'm really not sure about this. I think the events in the early 800's are actually set on the 850's.
I believe that Herms confused Yadrat to Namek. I think it would be this:
Age 804:
- Yadrat related event.
Age 851:
- Miira destroys New Namek. The Nameks are forced to migrate to Earth.
Age 852:
- New Namek's remains fall to Earth as meteorites.
Age 853:
- The Nameks terraform an area of Earth to make it look more like Planet Namek, they call it Porunga Rocks.
Age 900:
- The Yadrats are investigating a Shunkanido Machine.
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by DNA » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:31 am
So... when do you suppose the Yadrats migrated to Earth?
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by Citrinate » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:44 pm
HECTOR4 wrote:I believe that Herms confused Yadrat to Namek. I think it would be this:
Age 804:
- Yadrat related event.
Age 851:
- Miira destroys New Namek. The Nameks are forced to migrate to Earth.
Age 852:
- New Namek's remains fall to Earth as meteorites.
Age 853:
- The Nameks terraform an area of Earth to make it look more like Planet Namek, they call it Porunga Rocks.
Age 900:
- The Yadrats are investigating a Shunkanido Machine.
It takes a lot of time to move through a lot of space; so it makes more sense that it took 50 ages for the remains of Yardrat to reach Earth than if it took 1 age for the remains of New Namek to reach Earth.
As for how they got to Earth. The only person we know they knew on Earth and could have teleported to was Goku and he seems to die in 801. If their planet was really destroyed in 800 and not 8?? then they could have teleported to Goku while he was still alive.
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by Michsi » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:11 am
So Goku decides to die at the age of 64? Or 57 if you don't count the years he was dead. Kinda young if you ask me....
I suppose he and Vegeta dreaded the moment they would start to "deteriorate" as AT put it and wanted to have their final fight while they still had their full power.
Partly I understand why they'd do this and it fits them in a way, but I still like Toriyama first version were Vegeta dies of a heart attack due to blood pressure. I always imagined this old cranky geezer with a temper. I suppose DBO's version is more dignified.
The only thing that I don't get much (and don't really like ) is the evil nameks. How,why and for what reason, aside from needing an additional threat for the game.
I really feel sad for the namekians . They just have no luck with their home planetes....
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by HECTOR4 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:31 am
Citrinate wrote:HECTOR4 wrote:I believe that Herms confused Yadrat to Namek. I think it would be this:
Age 804:
- Yadrat related event.
Age 851:
- Miira destroys New Namek. The Nameks are forced to migrate to Earth.
Age 852:
- New Namek's remains fall to Earth as meteorites.
Age 853:
- The Nameks terraform an area of Earth to make it look more like Planet Namek, they call it Porunga Rocks.
Age 900:
- The Yadrats are investigating a Shunkanido Machine.
It takes a lot of time to move through a lot of space; so it makes more sense that it took 50 ages for the remains of Yardrat to reach Earth than if it took 1 age for the remains of New Namek to reach Earth.
As for how they got to Earth. The only person we know they knew on Earth and could have teleported to was Goku and he seems to die in 801. If their planet was really destroyed in 800 and not 8?? then they could have teleported to Goku while he was still alive.
The event is: in 852 a meteorites came on Earth. And the only meteorites that could reach are those of New Namek, planet destroyed a year earlier. There are no events related to meteorites in the year 800.
The Yadrats could go anywhere in seconds with its shunkanido.
Could travel the universe and by chance take for the Earth.
Michsi wrote:The only thing that I don't get much (and don't really like ) is the evil nameks. How,why and for what reason, aside from needing an additional threat for the game.
It's logical. As we saw with Kami Sama, some nameks can become evil by contact with other races less peaceful.
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by Michsi » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:46 am
Michsi wrote:The only thing that I don't get much (and don't really like ) is the evil nameks. How,why and for what reason, aside from needing an additional threat for the game.
It's logical. As we saw with Kami Sama, some nameks can become evil by contact with other races less peaceful.[/quote]
But an entire breed of them? It was never said that whoever Kami was, before he separated with what was to become Piccolo, had been a bad or evil person, only that some part of him was less god-worthy.
And Piccolo was evil because he was evil concentrated and nothing else. Kami wanted to get rid of it in order to become ..well Kami. How do these come to be.
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by HECTOR4 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:57 am
Michsi wrote:But an entire breed of them? It was never said that whoever Kami was, before he separated with what was to become Piccolo, had been a bad or evil person, only that some part of him was less god-worthy.
Because on Earth now there are hundreds of thousands Nameks. It´s logical that some will become evil, just as there are evil humans.
And Piccolo was evil because he was evil concentrated and nothing else. Kami wanted to get rid of it in order to become ..well Kami. How do these come to be.
As these were born on Earth and have chosen the path of evil, simply. It isn´t unusual to happen.
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by Michsi » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:13 am
I was actually refering to to the fact that they seem to be grouped as a ceratin type of namek. From that point of view one could could do the same with "evil" humas.
the only way this would be possible if those nameks who got tainted by the evils of humans decided to get rid of their evilness the same way Kami did.
But of course, I admit, it's not outside the realm of possibilty. The game's plot has plenty of wtf-ess to it
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by Herms » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:06 am
Michsi wrote:But an entire breed of them? It was never said that whoever Kami was, before he separated with what was to become Piccolo, had been a bad or evil person, only that some part of him was less god-worthy.
But Kaio did say that the evil in his heart that became Piccolo was born from his contact with evil people he encountered on Earth. So you have all these Namekians running around Earth all of a sudden and bingo! New crop of evil.
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by Michsi » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:57 am
Well yeah, we find out the reason why there was some evil in his heart but as I already mentioned, when I think of evil namekians I think of Piccolo Daimao -like namekians, meaning they were discarded from pure nameks that were tainted by the evil of humans. As in more than one namekian uses the split technique to remove his evil side...which is weird if you ask me.
But it's probably how you put it, they were simply influenced by the evil and changed their mentality, which kinda makes it seem like the namekina mind set works like a sponge

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by DNA » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:20 pm
Let's not forget Slug for example, sure he's from a movie but in that movie it shows that nameks became power mad, they were born extra powerful and became corrupt because of it.
This, coupled with the Kami/Daimao case, leads me to believe that, as much as nameks are good, they are easily tainted.
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by HECTOR4 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:03 pm
Michsi wrote:Well yeah, we find out the reason why there was some evil in his heart but as I already mentioned, when I think of evil namekians I think of Piccolo Daimao -like namekians, meaning they were discarded from pure nameks that were tainted by the evil of humans. As in more than one namekian uses the split technique to remove his evil side...which is weird if you ask me.
Also thinks that Piccolo Jr. was pure evil but became good man with the contact of the good persons.
Nameks, born a good or evil, can change their nature through contact with other races and / or individuals.
There is no a race of evil Nameks or good Nameks. Simply the Nameks be changed, included Piccolo Daimaoh Sr.
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by Citrinate » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:48 pm
HECTOR4 wrote:The event is: in 852 a meteorites came on Earth. And the only meteorites that could reach are those of New Namek, planet destroyed a year earlier. There are no events related to meteorites in the year 800.
The Yadrats could go anywhere in seconds with its shunkanido.
Could travel the universe and by chance take for the Earth.
Meteorites don't necessarily need to come from a planet that's been destroyed. What's linking the meteorites to a destroyed planet is the event that originally said "Yardrat is destroyed and its meteorites fall to Earth" in 8?? (I'm not even sure what the source of this event even is). The 852 meteorite event (which I assume is only from the Age 1000 video) only states that meteorites fall to earth and nothing else can be made out.
Also, it's my understanding that their teleport can only take them to a known life form. Meaning they can't just hop around the universe blindly. If they couldn't get to Earth by teleport then maybe Trunks popped in with his time machine and saved them like he seems to have done with the Namekians. However, if the original event about Yardrat was wrong then do we still know that Yardrat was even destroyed?
As for the Evil Namekians. I'm not really sure what importance this actually has, but in-game you can find Piccolo Daimao's symbol in the same area as where all the evil Namekians hang out (only have a real low quality image of this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/zsqwp3.jpg). Piccolo is also found in this same area (
pic).
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by HECTOR4 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:03 am
Citrinate wrote:Meteorites don't necessarily need to come from a planet that's been destroyed. What's linking the meteorites to a destroyed planet is the event that originally said "Yardrat is destroyed and its meteorites fall to Earth" in 8?? (I'm not even sure what the source of this event even is). The 852 meteorite event (which I assume is only from the Age 1000 video) only states that meteorites fall to earth and nothing else can be made out.
Yes, it can be. But don´t have the complete event to corroborate anything U_U
Also, it's my understanding that their teleport can only take them to a known life form. Meaning they can't just hop around the universe blindly. If they couldn't get to Earth by teleport then maybe Trunks popped in with his time machine and saved them like he seems to have done with the Namekians. However, if the original event about Yardrat was wrong then do we still know that Yardrat was even destroyed?
Shunkanido works by reading energy. Any energy. Not necessarily a known energy. If you catch a power you can teleport there.
Aaaand, the Time Patrol arrives in age 999. We have no indications that act at earlier dates (except for the Time Machine Quests). Besides that wouldn´t fit all Namekians in the ship
As for the Evil Namekians. I'm not really sure what importance this actually has, but in-game you can find Piccolo Daimao's symbol in the same area as where all the evil Namekians hang out (only have a real low quality image of this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/zsqwp3.jpg). Piccolo is also found in this same area (
pic).
I think the evil Namekians are allied with the Dark Eye to get Piccolo Daimaoh Sr. to bring his time. Thus the demon king would take back his throne.
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by Michsi » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:32 am
Citrinate wrote:
As for the Evil Namekians. I'm not really sure what importance this actually has, but in-game you can find Piccolo Daimao's symbol in the same area as where all the evil Namekians hang out (only have a real low quality image of this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/zsqwp3.jpg). Piccolo is also found in this same area (
pic).
I think the evil Namekians are allied with the Dark Eye to get Piccolo Daimaoh Sr. to bring his time. Thus the demon king would take back his throne.
Alright, I am now more intersted than ever in this game .
My favorite villain from DB is Piccolo Daimaoh. To bad they don't seem to care about developing the story in more detail, I'd love to know what Piccolo (Jr.) thinks of all of this.
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by Citrinate » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:15 am
HECTOR4 wrote:Aaaand, the Time Patrol arrives in age 999. We have no indications that act at earlier dates (except for the Time Machine Quests). Besides that wouldn´t fit all Namekians in the ship

Yeah, just forget I said that. Looked back to where I thought that was coming from and it was completely wrong.
HECTOR4 wrote:I think the evil Namekians are allied with the Dark Eye to get Piccolo Daimaoh Sr. to bring his time. Thus the demon king would take back his throne.
It is possible that Piccolo Diamaoh could make an appearance in DBO's present Age as I've also came across texture files for the character already in the game (
pic). Of course, it's impossible to say right now how the texture will be used.
Michsi wrote:My favorite villain from DB is Piccolo Daimaoh. To bad they don't seem to care about developing the story in more detail, I'd love to know what Piccolo (Jr.) thinks of all of this.
I believe Piccolo does give out quests or at the very least has some dialog in the game currently. Just because we lack some of the story doesn't mean it's not there as a lot of it still hasn't been translated. The game's story is also not complete and more is added to it almost episodically through content patches.
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by Senzu_Bean » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:49 pm
Great work although we REALLY need a guide that expand on this.
And the characters birthday... are they from the game or from Herms guide?
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by HECTOR4 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:16 am
Senzu_Bean wrote:
And the characters birthday... are they from the game or from Herms guide?
From Daizenshuu vol. 7 and other guides (Super Exciting Guide for example). Basically the official chronology of Dragon Ball, which is the same as that used in the game.
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by DongHyun » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:56 am
Age 2000: Miira enlists remnants of Freeza's World Trade Organization and the Red Pants Army, allowing him to conquer Earth. He soon uses a Time machine to travel back in time and steal Goku's DNA.
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