The horizontal text over the picture says "Roar!! Kaio-ken x100!!! Smash evil!!", and that's it.lash wrote:*Still waits patiently for answer*
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million
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Oh ok, thanks.
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I found the answer to my question after getting the site Google translated to english. 3,000,000 is the number assigned to Super Saiyan Goku in the card game, so Daizenshuu 7 still seems to be the first source for those numbers...dbgtFO wrote: When describing Goku's 180,000, 3 million is mentioned and yet again the card game is linked to, which provides a date much earlier than that of Daizenshuu 7's. So was that BP number first featured on that card or is the date provided in reference to something else?
On another note it seems that site Fox666 linked to is entirely about Battle Power speculation and ranking the characters' strength.
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Do you know what magazine(s) the first two scans come from?
I can see the 3rd scan is AT's memo about the Saibamen, Kanzentai covered in their battle power guide.
I can see the 3rd scan is AT's memo about the Saibamen, Kanzentai covered in their battle power guide.
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I'm sorry but Cooler at 470 million is unbelievable. Coolers Revenge must have been set just after Goku came back from Yardrat because, the big flaw in the movie, he couldn't control SSJ at will(Even though we know he had full control after coming back to Earth). Upon returning back to earth I'm doubtful as to whether Goku increased his powerlevel that much before he got back to Earth. We know that when he was on Namek his powerlevel was 3 mill, when he transforms into a SSJ which is a multiplier of 50 his powerlevel increases to 150 mill.
For Goku to beat Cooler if Cooler had a powerlevel of 470 mill Goku would have to have almost quadrupled his base form powerlevel to give him the advantage. With a battle power of 12 mill he would be 600 mill against Cooler which would assure him the victory. I highly doubt Goku had quadrupled his powerlevel before coming back to Earth unless the amount of powerlevel you gain through training scales with your current powerlevel.
For Goku to beat Cooler if Cooler had a powerlevel of 470 mill Goku would have to have almost quadrupled his base form powerlevel to give him the advantage. With a battle power of 12 mill he would be 600 mill against Cooler which would assure him the victory. I highly doubt Goku had quadrupled his powerlevel before coming back to Earth unless the amount of powerlevel you gain through training scales with your current powerlevel.
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Like I pointed out before, any of these levels (well, the ones for Coola and Broly anyway) could be finagled to work with just the series itself, but they're totally incompatible with each other. It's kind of funny.
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I know it's official and it's from a movie based on the anime (which often pushes and/or breaks the boundaries), but "Kaio-ken x100" still smells like bullshit to me. The highest Kaio-ken level we'd ever seen in the series is Kaio-ken x20, and going by the official multipliers, Kaio-ken x100 would much be stronger than a potential Super Saiyan form at this time and equal to a potential Super Saiyan 2.
I know it could just be vague, since we apparently have nothing other than that quote, but I don't think you can just twist it into making sense. It's not as if it was suggested that Piccolo's donation of ki to Goku made him capable to withstanding higher levels of Kaio-ken (of which, in the movie, he either said nothing or just "Kaio-ken!" without a level to follow it, which is what normally happens), or anything like that. It just seems like a genuine mistake.
I know it could just be vague, since we apparently have nothing other than that quote, but I don't think you can just twist it into making sense. It's not as if it was suggested that Piccolo's donation of ki to Goku made him capable to withstanding higher levels of Kaio-ken (of which, in the movie, he either said nothing or just "Kaio-ken!" without a level to follow it, which is what normally happens), or anything like that. It just seems like a genuine mistake.
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I think it's to justify how Goku needed to go "Super Saiyan" to beat up Slug but then could beat up Giant Slug with the Kaio-ken.Piccolo Daimao wrote:I know it's official and it's from a movie based on the anime (which often pushes and/or breaks the boundaries), but "Kaio-ken x100" still smells like bullshit to me. The highest Kaio-ken level we'd ever seen in the series is Kaio-ken x20, and going by the official multipliers, Kaio-ken x100 would much be stronger than a potential Super Saiyan form at this time and equal to a potential Super Saiyan 2.
I know it could just be vague, since we apparently have nothing other than that quote, but I don't think you can just twist it into making sense. It's not as if it was suggested that Piccolo's donation of ki to Goku made him capable to withstanding higher levels of Kaio-ken (of which, in the movie, he either said nothing or just "Kaio-ken!" without a level to follow it, which is what normally happens), or anything like that. It just seems like a genuine mistake.
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There is no way in hell Arale to be only 165.Fox666 wrote:- Arale-chan: 165
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Dragon Ball's Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:There is no way in hell Arale to be only 165.Fox666 wrote:- Arale-chan: 165
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To play devil's advocate here, it's debatable whether or not DB's Arale is the same as Dr. Slump's Arale, so no-one is right or wrong.Saiga wrote:Dragon Ball's Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:There is no way in hell Arale to be only 165.Fox666 wrote:- Arale-chan: 165
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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Was it ever officialy confirmed that DB' Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale? No. Do I care if Dr. Slump's logic doesn't fit DB's logic? No. Was Arale's and co. cameo meaningless and skippable? No. Do I consider Dr. Slump canon to DB? Yes.Saiga wrote:Dragon Ball's Arale isn't Dr. Slump's Arale.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:There is no way in hell Arale to be only 165.Fox666 wrote:- Arale-chan: 165
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.