"Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion (incl. "DB Minus")

[medama_oyaji]

My books arrived! Under the spoilers are some images of both Jaco and KatsuraAkira

Spoiler:

Here's a look at the front cover without the dust jacket and the inside flap.

The Table of Contents has a great little Galactic Patrol frog.

Between each chapter are various characters striking the Jaco pose! So awesome!

Now on to KatsuraAkira which will probably get a little less coverage here... The dust jacket has raised spot-gloss on the black linework, giving it a very cool 3-D effect. Also, the advertisement band around the outside is printed on this cool, textured paper!

The covers without the dust jacket are printed in a metallic silver ink. And we get little author comments and pics from both artists. Unfortunately these, as well as the interview in the back, don't have furigana, and I don't have time to dig through my kanji dictionary at the moment, so I can't give any info about that right now.

Here is the back cover as well as the inside flap with logos for both Jiya and Sachie-chan.

The inside-covers have sketches reprinted white-on-black, and the first page has a cool, green version of the front cover illustration.

After the comics in the book are 22 pages of character sketches, and then a 10 page interview. Again, I can't read these at the moment, but hopefully I'll have a chance to in the future, but there are notes about all the sketches, and the interview seems to cover their early work as well as Dragon Ball and Zetman, and their collaboration. There's a small reprint of on of Toriyama's "Names" or sketch-versions of the comics. Very cool!

[Gyt Kaliba]

Thanks for the pictures of both releases, but especially for Katsura Akira. That's a lot of love put into that, when I kind of expected they would just toss it all together, wow! I'll definitely have to pick that up for myself someday, though I'm hoping against hope that maybe, juuuuust maybe...Viz will treat me with an English release. Pretty please Viz?

I'm also betting that at least a majority, if not all, of those interviews are the old ones from the previous magazine printings of the manga contained within. The author notes at the beginning could well be something brand new though. I'm betting it's them nitpicking each other like a bickering old couple, as per the norm.

[Mewzard]

Thanks for the pictures of both releases, but especially for Katsura Akira. That's a lot of love put into that, when I kind of expected they would just toss it all together, wow! I'll definitely have to pick that up for myself someday, though I'm hoping against hope that maybe, juuuuust maybe...Viz will treat me with an English release. Pretty please Viz?

I'm also betting that at least a majority, if not all, of those interviews are the old ones from the previous magazine printings of the manga contained within. The author notes at the beginning could well be something brand new though. I'm betting it's them nitpicking each other like a bickering old couple, as per the norm.

Viz confirmed Jaco was coming out in January 2015 a while ago. Long wait, but yeah.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Viz confirmed Jaco was coming out in January 2015 a while ago. Long wait, but yeah.

Oh, I know about that coming out - I was talking about the Katsura Akira collection. My bad for the misunderstanding. ^_^;

[medama_oyaji]

Thanks for the pictures of both releases, but especially for Katsura Akira. That's a lot of love put into that, when I kind of expected they would just toss it all together, wow! I'll definitely have to pick that up for myself someday, though I'm hoping against hope that maybe, juuuuust maybe...Viz will treat me with an English release. Pretty please Viz?

Yeah, I was surprised by how nice the KatsuraAkira book is. I was pretty much just ordering it as a Toriyama manga completest, but I'm glad I did. I did a more thorough look-through last night and noticed that there are Toriyama's sketches between chapters, and then the big chunk of sketches towards the back are all Katsura's. There's also a color illustration of Jiya and Sachie-chan by Toriyama up front with a note with what looks like a typical air-headed "Who are these characters I created??" type note The sketches in the back are cool too, there's even some Jiya faces drawn on a receipt! And, someone more fluent than me please correct me if I'm wrong, but there are sketches of the aliens from Sachie-chan and I think the note reads that Katsura originally wanted to put butts on the back of their heads as a tribute to King Nikochan from Dr. Slump, but Toriyama made him use the more octopus-shaped aliens that appear in the comic.

I was never a big fan of the Sachie-chan story, which I had seen online and then finally read when it was in Viz's Shonen Jump. The art didn't really do it for me, and the story isn't that interesting. However, I never read Jiya, and it looks pretty great! The art is much better, in my opinion, and the story seems more interesting. I would love for Viz to put out an English version of this book. Not sure how likely that is, but I'd buy it!

As for Jaco, I missed it at first, but those chapter-dividing drawings of all the characters doing the Jaco-pose include names and little profiles including name, age, occupation, and hobbies. This includes new names for all of the members of that police squad at the end as well as the astronaut copilot, who I'm pretty sure are unnamed in the manga itself, if I remember correctly. I am sure the names are all puns, but I'm terrible at picking that stuff out, and the hobbies are cute. They even include a little illustration of a "Tie Bear" for the dude who is hassling Oomori!

I'm not going to photograph all of these things or list all of the profiles, but if there's any in particular that anybody wants to see let me know, and I'll post it when I can.

[VegettoEX]

We've got all the profiles translated and it'll be incorporated into the site... at some point...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

And how did you conclude that I said that his mission was a cover?

Well, quotes like this certainly make it appear logical: "Their priority was to save his life. They probably didn't care about if Goku would destroy the Earth or not, but they had a reason to send him to Earth, and also an excuse for Raditz. Plus, they weren't sure that Freeza would do something, it could have turned out to be a mistake from Bardock's side."

So, yeah, combine your statements of them not caring and calling it an excuse with the *fact* that Bardock didn't want Goku to look at the full moon, and it certainly *seems* pretty clear that it being a cover is what you're saying. Hey, but then again, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions without actually having explicit fact to back it up, thereby assigning you a motive based on my own preconceptions.

See? That's what that looks like.

OK, reading the chapter again, and paying more attention to it, Goku being sent as an infiltrator isn't a fact after all.

The conversation goes like this (Viz translation):

Bardock: I'll go steal a space pod at night. We're gonna launch him to a different planet.
Gina: What?! Why do we have to do that now?! Being an infiltration baby can be very dangerous!
Bardock : It's for Kakarotto's safety...

Now, one interpretation of Bardock's last line, which is the one I was going with, is this:

Bardock : It's for Kakarotto's safety... = We'll send him as an infiltration baby for his safety.

But the other one, which I didn't realize up until now, is this:

Bardock : It's for Kakarotto's safety... = We won't send him as an infiltrator baby, we are going to send him for his safety.


So, my bad for being stubborn and for not observing things enough.
And BTW, the 2nd interpretation seems to be the most likely one, since Bardock tells him not to look at the moon, and that they'll get him back if he is wrong.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Mine arrived today

Anyway, my mate wants one, I just checked cdjapan and the page no longer exists only the super elite edition . Are these out of print already?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Anyway, my mate wants one, I just checked cdjapan and the page no longer exists only the super elite edition . Are these out of print already?

Oro? The regular edition's page is right where it has always been: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-1634691

[medama_oyaji]

We've got all the profiles translated and it'll be incorporated into the site... at some point...

All hail Kanzenshuu!

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Anyway, my mate wants one, I just checked cdjapan and the page no longer exists only the super elite edition . Are these out of print already?

Oro? The regular edition's page is right where it has always been: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-1634691

I checked yesterday and I'm pretty sure it said page not found or something.

Anyway thanks!

[redon]

Got my Jaco The Galactic Patrolman "Super Elite Edition" today

[goku the krump dancer]

Woah, who's that guy with the cape and earrings?

[dbgtFO]

Woah, who's that guy with the cape and earrings?

If you're talking about the guy with the Black outfit and cape it's this guyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuxedo_Kamen.

It was pretty easy to find when the books featuring him say 'Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon.'
On its Wikipedia page all you'd have to do is to click on one of the male characters and there you have it.

If you're talking about someone else, then I can't possibly see who that could be.

[goku the krump dancer]

Lol nah, I know who Tuxedo Mask is. I was referring to the guy in Medama_Oyagi's image "spoiler".. The alien guy with earrings and a cape. I should've quoted it the first time, my fault.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Lol nah, I know who Tuxedo Mask is. I was referring to the guy in Medama_Oyagi's image "spoiler".. The alien guy with earrings and a cape. I should've quoted it the first time, my fault.

You mean this guy?

Spoiler:

I forget his name off the top of my head, but that's the main villain of 'Jiya'. Not sure how much detail you want on him, but essentially the form that you see is that of an ancient vampire. If the art itself looks odd compared to what you're used to, it might be because it's not a Toriyama drawing, but rather it's Katsura's (for their collaborations, Toriyama just did the stories - though he may have done initial character designs as well, not sure about that - while Katsura did the artwork).

[medama_oyaji]

Yeah, sorry for the confusion, some of those images are from the "Katsura Akira" crossover collection. That book just came up within this thread, and I don't think it really warrants its own topic on this forum (since it is especially not DB related) so we've been talking about it a little in here. Although... since the Galactic Patrol appears in those stories, it could conceivably take place in the DB universe

On the topic of Jaco, the paper quality in the Elite Edition is NICE. Pulls at me even more to eventually start collecting Kanzenbans!

[Gyt Kaliba]

Although... since the Galactic Patrol appears in those stories, it could conceivably take place in the DB universe

Not to go too much further off topic on that note, but there really does seem to be ample evidence to suggest that...well, that it's a strong possibility if one wanted to take it as such. Not only does the Galactic Patrol appear in both 'Sachie-chan' and 'Jiya' (much more in the latter than the former), Jiya also includes mention of a 'King of the Galaxy'. And that same King of the Galaxy who appears in Dragon Ball Minus -



- looks an awful lot like some of the aliens that appear in 'Sachie-chan'.



So yeah, they're all arguably connected if someone wanted to take the KatsuraAkira stuff into their personal 'canon'. I can't help but assume that maybe that's why the book was finally released at the same time as the Jaco tankobon too.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Not to go too much further off topic on that note, but there really does seem to be ample evidence to suggest that...well, that it's a strong possibility if one wanted to take it as such. Not only does the Galactic Patrol appear in both 'Sachie-chan' and 'Jiya' (much more in the latter than the former), Jiya also includes mention of a 'King of the Galaxy'. And that same King of the Galaxy who appears in Dragon Ball Minus -

- looks an awful lot like some of the aliens that appear in 'Sachie-chan'.

So yeah, they're all arguably connected if someone wanted to take the KatsuraAkira stuff into their personal 'canon'. I can't help but assume that maybe that's why the book was finally released at the same time as the Jaco tankobon too.

Branching off from this discussion...

I don't see why they couldn't be worked in if someone really wanted to. I doubt Toriyama would be overly worried about the few, generally art based, details that don't line up perfectly, as even his own works aren't completely consistent. While Katsura changed some of the designs (drastically on occasion), it does seem like Toriyama fully intended Sachie and Jiya to be even more relevant to Jaco than they currently are. Toriyama's version of Jiya's suit even features the same Galactic Patrol symbol as the Galactic Patrol in Jaco, minus the dot.

Here are his concept sketches for the characters from the two series that I took pics of for art references (plus a Galactic Patrol Frog from the Jaco release):

Spoiler:

[SaiyaJedi]

Lol nah, I know who Tuxedo Mask is. I was referring to the guy in Medama_Oyagi's image "spoiler".. The alien guy with earrings and a cape. I should've quoted it the first time, my fault.

It's Vampa, the apparent "bad guy" from Jiya. But there's a twist!

Not to go too much further off topic on that note, but there really does seem to be ample evidence to suggest that...well, that it's a strong possibility if one wanted to take it as such. Not only does the Galactic Patrol appear in both 'Sachie-chan' and 'Jiya' (much more in the latter than the former), Jiya also includes mention of a 'King of the Galaxy'. And that same King of the Galaxy who appears in Dragon Ball Minus -

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So yeah, they're all arguably connected if someone wanted to take the KatsuraAkira stuff into their personal 'canon'. I can't help but assume that maybe that's why the book was finally released at the same time as the Jaco tankobon too.

For what it's worth, Toriyama mentions in the interview at the end of KatsuraAkira that he considers Jaco the Galactic Patrolman a part in what he calls the "Galactic Patrol series", along with Sachie-chan and Jiya. Per his interview last year in V-Jump, it would seem that he originally had it in mind as a faster-paced series with more action (since Katsura would have been the one drawing it), but then overhauled it into something he could draw himself as a part of the Jump 45th-anniversary celebration.