Hugo Boss wrote:Boo may be different from Cell and Freeza, but not because his power fluctuates though, since those two are a good example of it. As for Piccolo Boo, the plot required a twist for him to power-up, then his final form still remains Pure Boo. Take Cell for example. The plot at last required Cell to be close on Gohan's powerlevel, even after he lost No.18. This is my [first] point. As for Vegeta surpassing Goku, not only he surpassed Goku, but also managed to hit Beerus for the first time in the movie, something not even Boo, Gotenks and Gohan did.
You say the plot required Cell to be close on Gohan's battle power even after he lost No. 18. Which is fine, we actually have a reason for why Cell came back more powerful than before. But if we go by plot, that is the exact reason why Goku was trying to return Boo to his original form(Fat Boo for them). To get Boo to be close to Goku's battle power. Because as Goku said, they stand no chance against Evil Boo(Super Boo). Unless you've got an explanation for why Goku magically powered up between him actually telling us they can't beat Evil Boo and when Pure Boo appeared, which you claim is more powerful, then the plot has a gaping plot hole.
Because, in your scenario, on one hand we have the plot point that Goku was trying to find a way to weaken a Boo he admits he can't beat and then when he suddenly has to fight a much more powerful foe he jumps at the chance to fight him alone and even tells us he could beat him at full power. Can you honestly tell me that this is logical? I mean you can twist what he says about not being able to beat Evil Boo. But the fact of the matter is we have Goku saying he can't beat Evil Boo and nothing ever contradicts it. Going by the facts we have and not making up reasons as to why the facts are wrong we can easily see that Pure Boo is weaker than Evil Boo given the context of what Goku says on both versions of Boo.
Hugo Boss wrote:Pure Boo should be easier to stop, because he is expected to be weaker than Evil Boo. That's me in an objective perspective of what "most dangerous" means. If Evil Boo is less dangerous than Pure Boo, then Evil Boo should be easier to handle, at least. Though, you may think in a subjective point of view, no problem. But I see Evil Boo being short-tempered, willing to kill whatever bothers him, only having Mr. Satan memories stopping him from destroy the planet right away. Pure Boo doesn't seem to have any rational motivation to do what he does, so that might be your point of view, "most dangerous" means "reckless", "rash", "lacking ratio" or something similar.
Freeza was weaker than Goku. By nearly twice as much before he launched a planet destroying attack to destroy Namek. And Goku could do nothing to stop it. Pure Boo wouldn't give Goku and Vegeta the time of day to prevent the Earth's destruction and there was nothing they could have done to prevent that. In comparison Evil Boo would have at least tried to fight Goku and Vegeta before blowing up the Earth given Goku and Vegeta a chance at saving it. Even with Boohan extremely outmatched by SSJ Vegetto he didn't try and destroy the Earth, which would have killed SSJ Vegetto if he didn't have the time to teleport.
In comparison, if SSJ Vegetto were up against Pure Boo and Pure Boo launched a planetary destruction attack at Earth then it's all over. Of course I am speaking hypothetically here. SSJ Vegetto is probably much too powerful to not stop that attack. But if we were to reign back SSJ Vegetto's strength to the point where the attack could have time to hit the planet and destroy it then Pure Boo is the most dangerous one, correct? Because even though Pure Boo is the easiest one to destroy he is still the most difficult to deal with because he more than likely wouldn't care about fighting SSJ Vegetto and just attack Earth.
Hugo Boss wrote:Goku noted Evil Boo's strenght increasing, but well noted nothing is confirmed about Pure Boo's, excepting that absorbing Dai Kaioshin made him weaker and he lost South Kaioshin's traces in his look. It's implied that Boo's characteristics are influenced by the people he absorbs, but is also implied that the stronger individual will be the base of his look. As South Kaioshin is stated to be the strongest kai, I don't understand what happened at all, since Boo took Dai Kaioshin's costume and shape as his new base. Was Dai Kaioshin in fact the strongest kai or the order might factor more? OR, in this case, Boo's look was determinated by the kai who most weakened him?
I would like to see a guidebook having a word on this.
Well, you say nothing confirms Pure Boo's strength. But we have Goku saying "We did it!" after Boo becomes Pure Boo. While you and another person choose to interpret this as size. It would be PIS(Plot induced stupidity) that Goku who was sensing Boo's power up till a few seconds ago just stopped sensing his power and was relying purely on size. And Goku had a goal in mind in the first place, which was to decrease Boo's power. "We did it!" would make sense in this context because that was the goal they were trying to achieve. Not make him smaller.
In fact, Goku in this arc has been pretty much on the ball all the time with estimating characters strength. He accurately called that there was something weird about Fat Boo's power which was proved right when Fat Boo got angry and his power increased incredibly. He was more than likely right that SSJ Gotenks could take Fat Boo. He literally called it that Fat Boo still had some strength hidden when he thought him as a SSJ3 which made him weary as to whether he could beat Fat Boo. Later he does say he could have beaten Fat Boo but, as with what has been pointed out earlier, this was in relation to Fat Boo's strength at that current time. Not Fat Boo's strength after he gets angry at Bee being shot or Mr. Satan being shot.
Hugo Boss wrote:If bringing Gohan and Gotenks to fight Pure Boo is pretty much a stomping-fest, it wouldn't kill (for you) the dramatic purpose of making a genkidama? If that was a much more safe way to save the universe, not risking everything in a move they didn't know if it would work? How unfair it would be bringing Gohan to fight Boo in a one-a-one battle? Or if things didn't go according to Vegeta's plan they would use dragon balls to fix the s*** they have done? Restoring all the planets Boo would have destroyed while Kibitoshin recovers his stamina and sends Gohan to finish Boo off? Oh man, all of that could happen, but..
Like I have already said, the Genki Dama was merely a plot device to handle the suspense and dramatic tone of the battle. It made a more thrilling scene to have the battle hinge on the Genki Dama as if they screwed up then everything could have gone wrong. In comparison, do you think it would have made a good story if they brought Gohan to Pure Boo and then have Gohan take him out in one single move? Also, who's to say that Pure Boo wouldn't go to Namek before Kibitoshin has recovered and destroy Namek along with the Dragon balls making no more dragon balls(Because Dende was there too) exist in the universe and effectively killing off the only other character who can teleport around the universe? Then it wouldn't even matter if the two most powerful characters are still there in reserve. Because Boo is the only one that can teleport. He could destroy every other planet before coming to Earth. And who knows how long that would take. By the time Boo comes back to Earth then Gohan and the boys might be dead. But Boo is ageless.
Hugo Boss wrote:Maybe, but the skinny Boo had Dai Kaioshin's costumes, which can mean something. Pure Boo seems an entirely different Boo, while the Pure Evil Boo was a counterpart of the Good one, but acting ruthless, not holding back a hair (and of course being Kenan & Kel pair
). Unfortunately, Good Boo was exhausted from the beginning, it would be much more interesting if he fought back at full power.
The Pure Evil(Grey) Boo having the Dai Kaioshin costumes could be due to several reasons for all we know. He existed as the evil manifestation of the Fat Boo so that may be why they looked so similar. Because if we were to take this at face value then why is it that Evil Boo doesn't have the Dai Kaioshin costumes even though he was formed from two Dai Kaioshin costumed characters? I don't think we can really comment on Pure Evil Boo's appearance and make it as a point of where he got his power from because we have no idea why he has the Dai Kaioshin costume and then he doesn't when he becomes Evil Boo. If anything, if this was supposed to be Pure Evil then he shouldn't have any Dai Kaioshin clothes at all and Evil Boo should be the one with Dai Kaioshin clothes. Right? All we can do is speculate with this point.
Hugo Boss wrote:Pure Boo is very similar to Son Goku from the early story. Both are "total idiots" in their own ways, as their abilities are also in completely different dimensions. I'm not exactly downplaying neither character intelligence, because that's not my point. The point is that both witness techniques and like to experiment, they have sense to come up with something incredible when put in the corner. I can see Pure Boo absorbing South Kaioshin and if nothing apparently negative happens we would try again. When absorbing Dai Kaioshin maybe he should feel the need to stop, but I also don't see Good Boo pointing anything contrary to the idea of absorbing East Kaioshin, for example, and we have Pure Evil Boo trying to do the same thing that once depowered him, but this kind of thought can go either way. How exactly Boo knew absorption would increase his power? It was from South Kaioshin's experience or after Good Boo is absorbed? I'm inclined for the second.
I'm sorry. But your point here is that they both like to experiment? But I am pretty sure that if Goku was in the very same situation, something like the sacred water not doing anything. Do you honestly think that Goku is going to drink the sacred water again unless he is told that it will give him an increase in strength? If it didn't benefit Pure Boo the first time then he isn't going to repeat it. Animals certainly don't do things unless they benefit them and if it doesn't benefit them they have no reason to do it again.
If you are teaching a dog to give you their paw then you provide an incentive for repeating the action so that they will keep doing it. But if you ask for their paw and they get nothing out of it. Do you think they will keep giving their paw? No, they won't. And even we, as intelligent beings, live by this concept. We don't do things that don't provide a benefit. Would you jog if it didn't increase your fitness? Would you read if it didn't make you more knowledgeable? Would you eat food if it didn't give you energy and keep you alive?
