Buu Saga Kai

[theoriginalbilis]

You're right, I am behind the times a bit when it comes to voice actor whereabouts. I agree that it has to because she's out of the country or some sort of pay-related issue then.

On a related note, I am looking forward to hearing the new score. I'm really hoping there will be more memorable tracks from Sumitomo in Kai, instead of the serviceable-but-not-great BoG score.

[Kingdom Heartless]

I think what most excites me about seeing this is the new score, which I'm looking forward to hearing.

Filler-wise, Buu saga wasn't too bad. A lot of the filler was really enjoyable.

[dbboxkaifan]

I think what most excites me about seeing this is the new score, which I'm looking forward to hearing.

Filler-wise, Buu saga wasn't too bad. A lot of the filler was really enjoyable.

Picture quality + soundtrack it probably won't be that great so my expectations are really low. I do agree the filler was fun to watch but I enjoyed the entire arc of Majin Boo.

Only 27 days to go. ^_^

[coola]

I'm also excited for new soundtrack, but uhh..Nagasaki..why him? I don`t hate him as a human, just, keep him away from anime sound industry.

[Ajay]

Absolutely gutted to hear that Videl will have a new voice actress. Minaguchi gave Videl such a recognisable voice that it's going to be hard getting used to her replacement.

Quite happy about the Babidi replacement though, I was never a huge fan of the original so a new take could be interesting. Hopefully it's not just a imitation akin to the early Drummond/Sabat switch up.

I'm definitely most excited about the score. I really enjoyed Yamamoto's work on Kai so it'll be nice to see how Sumitomo's score will work when watched sequentially. His score in Battle of Gods was decent but it didn't feel particularly Dragon Ball-esque. Hopefully he can work in some classic sounding tracks that actually feel like they fit the show. Yamamoto might have plagiarised many tracks but everything at least felt like it belonged.

I can't get over how fast this is all happening. I mean, we knew it was happening but it's always felt so distant and yet here we are, one month away!

[FortuneSSJ]

He scored Battle of Gods and Kei has edited some DBZ clips with his work thrown in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEX-WiC_1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrOSwH_Zt0

yes, I'm aware of that. I liked BoG sountrack but why they dont ask Shunsuke Kikuchi to create new sountracks?! Isn't he active anymore?!

[dbboxkaifan]

He scored Battle of Gods and Kei has edited some DBZ clips with his work thrown in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEX-WiC_1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrOSwH_Zt0

If this is the kind of tracks DBK:MB's going to have then the music'll be rather very generic, emotionless and lack that DB-ness that Kikuchi/Tokunaga/Yamamoto/Kishi/BT2 Team gave to Dragon Ball media throughout the years.

Well, the only thing now I've got to look forward to is if the picture quality will be any good.

[Cold Skin]

With the extended Battle of Gods by the end of March, we might actually hear some of the new tracks sooner than we think.
For the extra scenes, they'll need music from the composer, and I'm not sure they can repeat tracks from Battle of Gods only, they'll probably think "let's throw in that new Kai track for that new scene", since it's by the same composer for the same universe.

Anyway, I guess the Yamamoto incident was for the best after all, but I wish it had been postponed for two weeks so that the two last episodes aired wouldn't have gone back to Kikuchi for the big finale, as it breaks the continuity at the last moment when there was so little left to the end...
Changing the score to a whole new score makes sense from one era to another, not for the last two episodes. If it had been Yamamoto, we would have had a few new tracks and the old ones. Now we get to have totally new tracks all over and by a composer who understands the epic scale of the franchise and how to get the intended emotion straight into your heart. Just listening to the tracks, I could feel the emotions of the movie without having seeing it, the good and relaxed mood at the party, the goofy side of Goku, the unstoppable supreme threat starting to take people down in seconds, the despair of everyone being KO and the world being doomed, the traditionnal magic behind Shenron's appearance, the heroism of the strongest hero ever appearing, the most dangerous and epic battle ever with a God, the feeling of being back to peace having wonderful memories and perspectives for the future (wonderful Cha-La Head-Cha-La rendition)...

So I can't wait to hear that new score as soon as possible, even if it means with the extended Battle of Gods to begin with!
Yamamoto was great, Takaki even better in epicness and emotion with the Ultimate Tenkaichi reanimation tracks, and Sumimoto even one more step ahead with Battle of Gods.

[TheRed259]

I liked BoG sountrack but why they dont ask Shunsuke Kikuchi to create new sountracks?! Isn't he active anymore?!

He is 83 years old. He may not have the stamina anymore.

[Blade]

He scored Battle of Gods and Kei has edited some DBZ clips with his work thrown in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEX-WiC_1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrOSwH_Zt0

yes, I'm aware of that. I liked BoG sountrack but why they dont ask Shunsuke Kikuchi to create new sountracks?! Isn't he active anymore?!

He actually retired after Dragonball Z ended in 1995, hence why they looked elsewhere for GT, eventually hiring a rookie (at 25 years old!) Akihito Tokunaga to replace him. Kikuchi would have almost certainly got the job otherwise.

He has done occasional bits-and-bobs since his formal retirement, such as the 2008 Jump Special, but he hasn't worked regularly for a long time.

[JulieYBM]

He actually retired after Dragonball Z ended in 1995, hence why they looked elsewhere for GT, eventually hiring a rookie (at 25 years old!) Akihito Tokunaga to replace him. Kikuchi would have almost certainly got the job otherwise.

He has done occasional bits-and-bobs since his formal retirement, such as the 2008 Jump Special, but he hasn't worked regularly for a long time.

The 2008 JUMP Super Anime Tour Specials is all old music.

[FortuneSSJ]

Thanks for the answer guys.
I didn't know It was other composer who did GT soundtracks. I love GT sountracks as much as DB/DBZ ones.
But when it comes to Kai is other story.

[kei17]

I think you might be misunderstanding me, which is probably my fault. I'm not faulting the other composers simply because they're not Shunsuke Kikuchi, and I'm more than willing to give new talents a chance. You'll never hear me say a bad thing about Tokunaga's score, for example, because I think he did a great job capturing what I consider to be the proper atmosphere and tone of Dragon Ball (despite being very different from Kikuchi's interpretation). And I want to clarify that I never said I didn't like Yamamoto's and Takaki's music. I've got all three Kai soundtracks and listen to them quite frequently. And I would LOVE to throw my money at a compilation of Takaki's score (mostly for that great piece that plays when Goku and the gang defeat Hachi-Hyack). I just don't think they have much of a personality or identity to them (as in, you could insert this music into any generic action series and it would be just as effective; it doesn't feel like Dragon Ball). That's something that I still stand by.

Can't agree more. Their scores are pretty serviceable and sound good for their own sake, but I just can't find any "Dragon Ball-ness" in them. It's hard to explain, though.

I'm on my phone so I can't find it now, but there's also a clip of the SSJ3 transformation using a BoG track, and it works really well.

Do you mean this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4-PtD1APwU

I also made a fan edit of the fight between Videl and Spopovich with Sumitomo's music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYn9dbjpv14

I liked BoG sountrack but why they dont ask Shunsuke Kikuchi to create new sountracks?! Isn't he active anymore?!

He is 83 years old. He may not have the stamina anymore.

He still composes songs for Tokusatsu shows occasionally, but he probably doesn't have the stamina for composing a lot of pieces for a long TV show.

[penguintruth]

I would love more Kikuchi music.

Even if it had vibraslap.

[Gyt Kaliba]

He actually retired after Dragonball Z ended in 1995, hence why they looked elsewhere for GT, eventually hiring a rookie (at 25 years old!) Akihito Tokunaga to replace him. Kikuchi would have almost certainly got the job otherwise.

He has done occasional bits-and-bobs since his formal retirement, such as the 2008 Jump Special, but he hasn't worked regularly for a long time.

I'm not doubting you, but are you completely certain on the retirement after DBZ thing? I seem to recall hearing that the reason he didn't do GT was because he had made a commitment to do the score for Tenchi in Tokyo...but I can't remember where I heard this and I've never compared dates to see if that would even make sense, so I dunno. Or would that fall under the occasional bits-and-bobs kind of work, since that's only a 26 episode series?

[TheRed259]

I seem to recall hearing that the reason he didn't do GT was because he had made a commitment to do the score for Tenchi in Tokyo...but I can't remember where I heard this and I've never compared dates to see if that would even make sense, so I dunno.

And many tracks do sound like the ones from the 13th DBZ Movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6w6JbdYjk

[Gyt Kaliba]

And many tracks do sound like the ones from the 13th DBZ Movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6w6JbdYjk

Heh, it does sorta. But yeah, I do know that he did the Tenchi in Tokyo score, since ANN has it listed for him.

Let's see though, as long as I'm poking around on ANN...Dragon Ball Z came to an end in on Jan. 1, 1996. GT started up the following week on Feb. 2, 1996. Tenchi in Tokyo started...hmm, according to ANN it didn't start until April 1, 1997. That's more than a full year later...so unless there's something I don't know about how long it takes to do a score (and I'm sure it does take some time), or some of these dates are wrong, I guess the two events are probably unrelated after all.

[ChibiGoku]

As far as I am aware, although Kikuchi doesn't do much in terms of scoring anime, he is still an active composer. Mostly just scoring movie scores, at this point. I have heard though he's apparently expensive to hire, which could have been part of the reason Toei dropped him for Dragon Ball GT (and for that matter, possibly why a lot of anime production companies do not hire him).

[dbboxkaifan]

And many tracks do sound like the ones from the 13th DBZ Movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6w6JbdYjk

Just based on this I'm going to check out Tenchi in Tokyo because it sounds like what could've been Modernised Kikuchi music for Dragon Ball Kai.

If someone rescored the Artificial Humans arc & Cell arc of Kai with Kikuchi's modern music that would be awesome.

P.S.: My problem with Kikuchi's music in Kai wasn't that it was old (I adore listening to the DB & DBZ BGMs) but there was very little to no variety which led to repetitiveness and annoyance making it hardly watchable.

[TheRed259]

And this is like Tapion's and Hirudegarn's theme. It seems that Kikuchi was still affected from DragonBall Z.