Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

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Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by Hujio » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:55 pm

I just posted this over on Kanzentai, but I thought people may want to discuss it here as well. Someone at Toei has leaked the next couple of episode titles early, confirming that Super Saiyan Son Goku will make his Kai debut in episode 047. So with that, let's do what we do best, speculation!

What does everything think Toei will do with this scene, both musically and visually? Will we hear the insert song "An Ultra-super Dragon Soul" again? Will the cropping horribly alter it, or will the entire scene be re-animated at top-notch quality?

Finally, with it only be two weeks away, do you plan on actually tuning in to watch the episode?
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Post by Big Momma » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:59 pm

I'm definitely watching this one.


And while I have no idea what will happen, here's hoping that they re-animate the scene.
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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:04 pm

I'll be watching this one live, too!

I'm really hoping they do all the works for this episode and scene. I suspect that #46 will cover Dragon Ball Z #93-93, so we might actually see about a half episode's worth of fighting in Kai #47.
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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:11 pm

JulieYBM wrote:so we might actually see about a half episode's worth of fighting in Kai #47.
Man, that's something that absolutely solidifies just how awesome DBZ 095 is -- it ends with an evil staredown. I don't know if the emotional impact can be retained if, within the exact same episode, they start fighting. I think it's worth it to get rid of that cut-away to Bulma and Ginyu-Frog, though.

Never mind the fact that DBZ 096's animation is terrible...

This is something I'll probably check out in a somewhat timely fashion. It's arguably the first OMG HUGE EVENT in the (Z) series continuity, and it's worth a look. Crazy that they potentially blew the usage of "Super Ultra Dragon Soul" so early, since it would have been the perfect opportunity to use an insert song (as opposed to some of the earlier uses)... of course, I don't actually think that song would fit with the scene at all, so maybe that's a good thing...?

We've still got "CHASER" and "Muteki AURA..." (and lolz Dende's song) that they haven't used yet, and neither of them seem like appropriate songs for the transformation. Hell, all of them sound like nothing more than backing music to a general AMV of fight scenes...
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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by UristtheGreat » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:15 pm

With all this talk of silence I think they should use that, no music except for Goku turning Super Saiyan and some sound effects.
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Post by Super Klonoa » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:31 pm

Considering that past reports have said that there's a Super Saiyan theme in the Song Collection, and that SSJ Goku is in the background of this song's lyrics page, I'm gonna be surprised and disappointed if they don't use Super Dragon Soul in episode 47.

I mean, the music is perfect for the scene, the lyrics are fitting for it... It'd be a mistake not to use it, really.

Otherwise, I'm really looking forward to this episode if they are planning to use the song. It was really epic for me back in the day...

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:58 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:so we might actually see about a half episode's worth of fighting in Kai #47.
Man, that's something that absolutely solidifies just how awesome DBZ 095 is -- it ends with an evil staredown. I don't know if the emotional impact can be retained if, within the exact same episode, they start fighting. I think it's worth it to get rid of that cut-away to Bulma and Ginyu-Frog, though.

Never mind the fact that DBZ 096's animation is terrible...

This is something I'll probably check out in a somewhat timely fashion. It's arguably the first OMG HUGE EVENT in the (Z) series continuity, and it's worth a look. Crazy that they potentially blew the usage of "Super Ultra Dragon Soul" so early, since it would have been the perfect opportunity to use an insert song (as opposed to some of the earlier uses)... of course, I don't actually think that song would fit with the scene at all, so maybe that's a good thing...?

We've still got "CHASER" and "Muteki AURA..." (and lolz Dende's song) that they haven't used yet, and neither of them seem like appropriate songs for the transformation. Hell, all of them sound like nothing more than backing music to a general AMV of fight scenes...
Aye, my suspicion is that the first eyecatch with cap with the final shot of #95 and then #96 will be contained in the second half of the episode (didn't that end with the "I am Son Gokû, the Super Saiyan!!"...?)

As awesome a episode-ender as #95 has I think #94's end of Gokû smashing down the Genki-dama is the sort of episode-ender that "just feels right." Another plus is the fluidity of which the episodes will likely move with (i.e. less "holy cow, speed up lulz") and more...dare I say classic Dragon Ball Z epic stare down-esque?

Might as well throw down right now suspicions that #45 (airing this weekend) will follow the usual "one episode as Part A, another a Part B" formula the Freeza arc has taken tenderly to with Part A being the end of #91 and Part B ending with #92 (which means we get Twenty-Times Kaiô-ken failing in the first half and the episode ending with Gokû grinning about his hidden-in-plain-sight Genki-dama).
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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by Tyro » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:09 pm

So, I want to be able to tune in to watch these last few episodes before Goku turns SSj. Where do I go to/how do I watch these?

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:10 pm

Tyro wrote:So, I want to be able to tune in to watch these last few episodes before Goku turns SSj. Where do I go to/how do I watch these?
Well, being that you live in Kentucky, and being that Kentucky is in the US, and being that FUNimation has it licensed for the US...

We sure ain't talkin' about that here no more :).
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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by Hujio » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:19 pm

VegettoEX wrote:We sure ain't talkin' about that here no more :).
What about telling someone how to watch it live? Or would you not like that discussed as well? It doesn't matter to me, I'm just curious if you only meant don't tell someone where to download the episodes illegally. Where are you drawing the line on this one?
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Post by linkdude20002001 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:26 pm

Well, if they use KeyHoleTV, it would be completely legal since it's from Japan’s Ministry of Internal Affairs. :mrgreen:
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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by Tyro » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:50 pm

VegettoEX wrote:We sure ain't talkin' about that here no more :).
I hate you.

We (well, most) do not talk like that. At least from where I'm from. :wink:
Hujio wrote:What about telling someone how to watch it live?
This is the info that I wanted. Not torrents or anything. I thought back when Kai was still new word got around about how to watch it live on the interwebz.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:35 pm

Tyro wrote:This is the info that I wanted. Not torrents or anything. I thought back when Kai was still new word got around about how to watch it live on the interwebz.
That information certainly wouldn't be somewhere here on the forums or on sites like Kanzentai. Certainly not. No sir.

In other news, this may be the first episode of Kai I watch in ages. I'm curious to see how bad the (bound to be) reanimated portions are.
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:41 pm

All I'm wondering is what they'll do with "the scream."

Will they keep in line with the original and have some freaky-ass voice come from no where to yell for Goku? Or will Nozawa get in touch with her inner Super Saiyan for some killer yell? 8)
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Post by B » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:13 pm

Wasn't that Ginyu's Z VA? What if they had Katsuyuki Konishi do it over? That would be a treat.
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Post by ThunderPX » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:57 pm

I still think it sounds like it's just pitch-shifted.
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Post by Flamzeron » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:42 am

Damn, we've still got 3 more episodes to go. Next to Trunks' first appearance, Goku going SS1 for the first time is the one thing I want to see in DBKai the most.

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Re: Super Saiyan in Kai - Confirmed!

Post by Bura » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:52 am

I personally don't really care what insert song they'll use in the transformation scene... I'm sure they handle it fine though :3
I do hope they use Freeza's insert song when he suddenly turns out to be alive and killing everyone. That would be sweet! (I do realise the song is being overused but I just think it rocks XD)

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:19 am

I wonder if Masako will do her loud screams like she did in Dragon Ball Z

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Post by MCDaveG » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:26 am

Original SSJ scream is pitch-down of Nozawa's scream. Let's see what they'll do in Kai.
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