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Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Fri May 27, 2011 2:42 pm

I came across a comment on the internet that said "Yeah. Fortunately, the Dragonball MMO in Korea has replaced GT in the canon. That means GT doesn't exist. Especially if Kai finishes off where it is, or EVEN if it ends in Buu saga." I couldn't read it with a straight face and I started to laugh. How in the hell does GT not exist when I am watching it right now??

I was just wondering what everybody thinks of DB online and if you know how involved Toriyama was with it. Has it been stated that this piece of garbage is the "actual" sequel to Z? The game makes no sense, we have humans going SSJ that can't stand up to little critters in combat. Either those little critters are on par with Super Vegetto, or those humans just suck ass.

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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by DarkGokuZ » Fri May 27, 2011 2:52 pm

Piece of garbage is a little harsh..
I like DBO, and I really like the idea of it. :D

I don't know if its a sequel or not.. I see it as a sequel, but that's just my personal opinion.
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri May 27, 2011 2:55 pm

It's treated as an official continuation to the Dragon Ball manga (as opposed to Dragon Ball GT being the official continuation to the Dragon Ball anime), and it completely ignores GT's story.

But it hasn't "replaced" GT in canon. And obviously, GT exists. But neither have been confirmed to be canon to anything.
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Herms » Fri May 27, 2011 2:56 pm

Toriyama has had to sign off on all the story elements and character designs. But there's certainly not been any message from him or anyone else involved with the game saying that DBO is the only real sequel to the manga and that GT can go suck it. That's just silly fans talking.
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Budogenkai » Fri May 27, 2011 3:03 pm

Still want a US release.


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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by LeprikanGT » Fri May 27, 2011 3:26 pm

Someone wanted a paycheck and wanted to bastardize and disgrace the super saiyan ability.

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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Xyex » Fri May 27, 2011 3:34 pm

OWmyDragonBallz wrote:I came across a comment on the internet that said "Yeah. Fortunately, the Dragonball MMO in Korea has replaced GT in the canon. That means GT doesn't exist. Especially if Kai finishes off where it is, or EVEN if it ends in Buu saga." I couldn't read it with a straight face and I started to laugh. How in the hell does GT not exist when I am watching it right now??

I was just wondering what everybody thinks of DB online and if you know how involved Toriyama was with it. Has it been stated that this piece of garbage is the "actual" sequel to Z? The game makes no sense, we have humans going SSJ that can't stand up to little critters in combat. Either those little critters are on par with Super Vegetto, or those humans just suck ass.
DBO's story line is 100x better than the majority of what GT did. As such, I'm one of the ones viewing DBO as the 'official' sequel to DB, and GT just being another movie. Only longer.

As for the SSJ thing, you do realize all of those 'humans' are actually part Saiya-jin, right? DBO is hundreds of years after DBZ and the Saiya-jin genes of spread out among the population making a fairly large chunk of the humans actually part Saiya-jin. A reaaaaly small part, which is why Shenron is needed to access SSJ, but part Saiya-jin all the same.

Also, why would the 'critters' have to be near Super Vegetto to be anything against these low level SSJs? You're dealing with part Saiya-jins who are, by far, more human than Saiya-jin. Part Saiya-jins that have have DB era level powers. And, I believe, their SSJ power is supposed to be less, due to how little Saiya-jin is in them (though I could be wrong about that). But even with the 50x SSJ level, if Goku were to have gone SSJ at the 22nd Budokai then Nappa would still be able to kick his ass (going by my PLs, and not the Daizenshuu's leves, anyway). So especially if I'm right about the weakened SSJ due to dilluted blood, but even without that, DBO isn't nearly on the same power scale as mid Z, let alone later Z.
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Makaioshin » Fri May 27, 2011 3:39 pm

To cash in on the MMO craze.
And I wouldn't say it would replace GT. GT is a continuation of the cartoon. DBO is a continuation of the comic. You don't have to accept it as canon or whatever.
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri May 27, 2011 3:46 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:wanted to bastardize and disgrace the super saiyan ability.
It's only a game. Everyone having Super Saiyan is just for fans that want to play as non-Saiyan Super Saiyans. You know, break the boundaries. It's an MMO, after all.
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Kiyza » Fri May 27, 2011 3:51 pm

OWmyDragonBallz wrote:I came across a comment on the internet that said "Yeah. Fortunately, the Dragonball MMO in Korea has replaced GT in the canon. That means GT doesn't exist. Especially if Kai finishes off where it is, or EVEN if it ends in Buu saga." I couldn't read it with a straight face and I started to laugh. How in the hell does GT not exist when I am watching it right now??
Canon is a fickle thing when it comes to Dragon Ball. There's really no set canon, and it's more or less up to the individual what's canon and what's not. Dragon Ball Online doesn't just ignore GT, it ignores the anime as a whole.
OWmyDragonBallz wrote:I was just wondering what everybody thinks of DB online and if you know how involved Toriyama was with it. Has it been stated that this piece of garbage is the "actual" sequel to Z? The game makes no sense, we have humans going SSJ that can't stand up to little critters in combat. Either those little critters are on par with Super Vegetto, or those humans just suck ass.
I feel like it's a good idea, and I certainly don't think it's a piece of garbage. It definitely has the spirit of Dragon Ball intact, and I'm interested to see where it goes with it.

Also, why would the humans in the game be that powerful anyway? They're probably not much past the level of Gohan and Kuririn on Namek at the absolute best, considering it takes a team of them to take down beefed up versions of Freeza's minions. Just because you're a Super Saiyan doesn't mean you're automatically super strong. It's a set multiplier. (which has, obviously, been bumped down in-game anyway)
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Hasn't even been released in Japan yet.
It was just released for beta testing in Taiwan, though, and there have been rumors of a Hong Kong release. It's moving out of Korea finally, if nothing else.

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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by GamingBuddha » Fri May 27, 2011 5:32 pm

Xyex wrote:DBO's story line is 100x better than the majority of what GT did. As such, I'm one of the ones viewing DBO as the 'official' sequel to DB, and GT just being another movie. Only longer.
Most of the stuff people like about DBO isn't its story though, it's the backstory. The huge Goku and Vegeta battle and Booby probably won't even be a part of the actual game but stuff that's happened prior to it. From what I've seen of the actual story, it's a lot of time traveling and replaying different versions of the original Dragon Ball story.

On another note, I haven't really read anything about its gameplay. Is it any good?

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Re: Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by Chuquita » Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 pm

Yeah, the only DBO-related thing I care about is the back-story. >_>;; I don't really care about playing the game itself.

Goku and Vegeta running away into outer space together in year 801 to fight each other in a final, amazing battle-to-the-death so they don't fall victim to rapid-aging? Wonderfully bittersweet. And it's closure! Official closure; I love it.


Everything related to Buu, his family, and the amusement park? Fun information.
Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Goten and Trunks all starting up martial arts schools? Sounds nice.
Gohan publishing a book? That fits so well.
Future Trunks starting a Time Patrol? Yes. X3

But things like what level you have to be to do what in the game, or who you have to fight where and what techniques to use? That doesn't interest me.
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Post by Travis Touchdown » Sat May 28, 2011 12:00 am

Chuquita wrote: Goku and Vegeta running away into outer space together in year 801 to fight each other in a final, amazing battle-to-the-death so they don't fall victim to rapid-aging? Wonderfully bittersweet. And it's closure! Official closure; I love it.
Just out of morbid curiosity, would this imply Vegeta eventually reached SSJ3? Otherwise, how could he stand a chance against Goku or even consider himself close to Goku in terms of their full power? Sure, they may be dead even as SSJ2s, but Vegeta would want Goku at his very best. He was pissed at Goku for hiding SSJ3 before and basically leading him on into thinking he stood a chance back in the Buu Saga.

Or would that basically just be opening a whole can of fanon worms that leads to arguments we really don't need to deal with?
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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by Xyex » Sat May 28, 2011 12:28 am

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Xyex wrote:DBO's story line is 100x better than the majority of what GT did. As such, I'm one of the ones viewing DBO as the 'official' sequel to DB, and GT just being another movie. Only longer.
Most of the stuff people like about DBO isn't its story though, it's the backstory. The huge Goku and Vegeta battle and Booby probably won't even be a part of the actual game but stuff that's happened prior to it. From what I've seen of the actual story, it's a lot of time traveling and replaying different versions of the original Dragon Ball story.
DBO's backstory is it's storyline, or at least the vast bulk of it at the moment. But it's not only the backstory parts, but the stuff with Mira and so forth, too, that I like.
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Re: Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by Chuquita » Sat May 28, 2011 12:35 am

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Chuquita wrote: Goku and Vegeta running away into outer space together in year 801 to fight each other in a final, amazing battle-to-the-death so they don't fall victim to rapid-aging? Wonderfully bittersweet. And it's closure! Official closure; I love it.
Just out of morbid curiosity, would this imply Vegeta eventually reached SSJ3? Otherwise, how could he stand a chance against Goku or even consider himself close to Goku in terms of their full power? Sure, they may be dead even as SSJ2s, but Vegeta would want Goku at his very best. He was pissed at Goku for hiding SSJ3 before and basically leading him on into thinking he stood a chance back in the Buu Saga.

Or would that basically just be opening a whole can of fanon worms that leads to arguments we really don't need to deal with?

I'm really not the strength argument person, so I'm probably not the best to ask; but my answer would be that yes, I think Vegeta eventually reached SSJ3. If they're both nearing their 70's in 801, that means Vegeta's had around 30 years or so of training in-between the Buu arc and their final battle. Plus if he has Goku around as a sparring partner I don't see any reason why he wouldn't get to ssj3 at some point; I'd think sooner than later.
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Re: Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by Rocketman » Sat May 28, 2011 1:35 am

Chuquita wrote:Future Trunks starting a Time Patrol? Yes. X3
Stupid idea for two reasons:

1. Trunks is no more qualified for such a role than anybody else.

2. Travelling through time splits off timelines. A "Time Patrol" can't save the past, just create a new timeline where DBO's villain was stopped...which means the timeline where it wasn't stopped still exists...and the original timeline remains unmolested because when the big bad travelled back that in itself created a new timeline.

It's a stupid shit gimmick created so people can refight the same old battles with copy-pasted fighters while patting themselves on the back for playing an 'original' game.

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Re: Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by Michsi » Sat May 28, 2011 4:23 am

Travis Touchdown wrote: Just out of morbid curiosity, would this imply Vegeta eventually reached SSJ3? Otherwise, how could he stand a chance against Goku or even consider himself close to Goku in terms of their full power? Sure, they may be dead even as SSJ2s, but Vegeta would want Goku at his very best. He was pissed at Goku for hiding SSJ3 before and basically leading him on into thinking he stood a chance back in the Buu Saga.

Or would that basically just be opening a whole can of fanon worms that leads to arguments we really don't need to deal with?
It's not outside the realm of possibility given DB and it's power- up trend, but personally I doubt it. Goku could limit himself at SSJ2 just like he did during the Buu Saga, because this battle wouldn't be about winning but about enjoying one last good fight and not dying of old age.

The reason I don't like the Goku vs. Vegeta fight is that 1. it feels a bit like fanservice (though strangely enough it is also fitting in a way ) 2. Vegeta himself admits that he'd probably never catch up to Goku 3. Vegeta is almost 20 years older than Goku, shouldn't he already entered the old phase?

As for DBO itself, I think it's a good idea, if for nothing else than revitalizing the franchise worldwide someday, mayber even more so than Kai. I might not agree with everything that has been done with he game and it's story but I like it enough to want to play despite not liking games much.

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Re: Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by rereboy » Sat May 28, 2011 7:42 am

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Chuquita wrote:Future Trunks starting a Time Patrol? Yes. X3
Stupid idea for two reasons:

1. Trunks is no more qualified for such a role than anybody else.

2. Travelling through time splits off timelines. A "Time Patrol" can't save the past, just create a new timeline where DBO's villain was stopped...which means the timeline where it wasn't stopped still exists...and the original timeline remains unmolested because when the big bad travelled back that in itself created a new timeline.

It's a stupid shit gimmick created so people can refight the same old battles with copy-pasted fighters while patting themselves on the back for playing an 'original' game.
The time patrol idea was just so that the players in the game could go to the past.

I just include some ideas of DBO in my fanon like what happened to the main cast of the series.

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Re: Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

Post by Necrosaber » Sat May 28, 2011 7:46 am

OWmyDragonBallz wrote:I came across a comment on the internet that said "Yeah. Fortunately, the Dragonball MMO in Korea has replaced GT in the canon. That means GT doesn't exist. Especially if Kai finishes off where it is, or EVEN if it ends in Buu saga." I couldn't read it with a straight face and I started to laugh. How in the hell does GT not exist when I am watching it right now??

I was just wondering what everybody thinks of DB online and if you know how involved Toriyama was with it. Has it been stated that this piece of garbage is the "actual" sequel to Z? The game makes no sense, we have humans going SSJ that can't stand up to little critters in combat. Either those little critters are on par with Super Vegetto, or those humans just suck ass.
You're not the only one. There are people who'll take anything over GT. I'm not one of those people. I think DBO is completely ridiculous. The story itself doesn't bring anything interesting, and to me, it sounds like a bad fanfic. Gameplay isn't all that great either. For a month 1/2 I played it, I found it really boring and the combat clunky.

Like the new special with Vegeta's brother, I just act like it's a "what-if" kinda thing. I don't put it ahead of GT it terms of anything.

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Re: Why was DB online even made?

Post by kaialone » Sat May 28, 2011 7:51 am

LeprikanGT wrote:Someone wanted a paycheck and wanted to bastardize and disgrace the super saiyan ability.
Because Trunks and Goten reaching SSJ as children totally didnt do that :roll:
Not to mention the fact that the humans who can turn SSJ in DBO have Saiyajin blood.
But enough of that,people can hate DBO all they want,it their opinion.

I think DBO is really interesting,though I´d really love to play it myself,becaus ebefore that Ic ant really have a real opinion on it.I have to admit that I'm more interested in the backstory though,wich is why cant wait for a japanes erelease because I'm sure someone will be able to tranlate the ino then.As oposed to use google tranlator on korean text and trying to make out something.
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