Calculating: Distance btw Namek and Earth, & Goku

[Kakarot88]

Proposition for how to determine:
1. The Distance from Earth to Planet Namek and
2. The Speed of Goku’s Space Ship on that flight

Using only (3) Facts I will attempt to explain a range of possible speeds that Goku’s Space Ship most likely goes as well as how far Planet Namek is from Earth:

• Fact (1) It takes Goku 6 days to make it to Planet Namek.
  Source Material: Dragon Ball Chapter 250
  孫悟空復活!! Son Gokū Fukkatsu!!
  Son Goku Revived!!
  
  Fact (2) Using the greatest engine Dr. Briefs ever built it would take Bulma and Co. approximately 4,339 years and 3 months to arrive on Planet Namek
  Source Material: Dragon Ball Chapter 243
  めざせ！ナメックの星 Mezase! Namekku no Hoshi
  Go For It! The Planet Namek
  
  
  Fact (3) In Jaco the Galactic Parolman, which is a prequel tie in, to the events in Dragon Ball, technology on Earth has already advanced so far that Earthlings have manned Space Shuttles that can exit Earth’s atmosphere and orbit the planet.
  
  See: Source Material:
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  NOTE: I apologize to the Kanzenshuu Staff and community in advance if the above self made picture with panels from Jaco that I arranged for context is a violation of the rules. After reading over the rules I would consider this a fan creation.

Propositions:

(1) Because of the gravity technology that Jaco provides and because Manned Space Shuttle Launches are possible in the Dragon Ball world as of the beginning of Dragon Ball it stands to reason that the “greatest engine” Dr. Brief’s ever built as of the Saiyan arc should, at a bare minimum, be able to achieve speeds equal to manned space craft since 1969 when the US landed on the moon.

(2) However, I believe the speeds of Dr. Breif’s “greatest engine” before creating Goku’s spaceship could achieve speeds as fast as that of the New Horizon probe that was launched on January 9, 2006, because although unmanned it was launched towards Pluto, like Bulma and Co. who launched themselves into deep space towards Namek.

[Fun Fact: Helios-A and Helios-B (also known as Helios 1 and Helios 2, were a pair of probes launched into heliocentric orbit for the purpose of studying solar processes. The probes set a maximum speed record among spacecraft at 252,792 km/h (157,078 mi/h or 43.63 mi/s or 70.22 km/s or 0.000234c).]


!! Problem !!

If you disagree with the idea that Dr. Briefs has superior technology than the rest of the modern world and therefore believe that Dr. Briefs could not achieve speeds akin to manned missions to the moon as of the Saiyan arc then indeed Namek would be closer and Goku’s ship’s speed would be slower than what is explained below.



However, such an opinion flies in the face of the Dragon Ball world, because in Dragon Ball the Capsule Corporation is at the forefront of creating technology. Therefore the Ship Dr. Brief would have available should be at least on par with an average space shuttle. (see Daizenshuu 4: "SPACESHIPS: Vehicles with the purpose of moving through the vacuum of space. They are installed with all of the latest technology. There are also ones produced that are installed with technology derived from contact with aliens.")

This matters mainly because the faster you make Dr. Brief’s fastest engine as of Bulma’s statement, as shown beow, the faster Goku’s ship will be and the greater the distance between Earth and Planet Namek



Calculating the Distance of Planet Namek

Distance using Speed 1: Using Appolo 11 (manned space flight to the moon), we take 39,896km/hr and see how far that ship would go in 4339 years and 3 months
4339 years and 3 months = 52,071 months = 1,583,826.25 days = 38,011,830 hours
SO 39,896km/hr for 38,011,830 hours = 1,516,519,969,680km

Thus, the Low end distance of Planet Namek from Earth must be at least
1,516,519,969,680 km or 942,321,821,611.78711 miles or 16,584,864,060,367.50 football fields

Distance using Speed 2: Using New Horizons probe (unmanned Spacecraft launch towards Pluto) we take 58,536 km/h and see how far that ship would go in 4339 years and 3 months.
4339 years and 3 months = 52,071 months = 1,583,826.25 days = 38,011,830 hours
SO 58,536 km/h for 38,011,830 hours = 2,225,060,480,880km

Thus, on the practical end the distance of Planet Namek from Earth must be at least
2,225,060,480,880km or 1,382,588,483,804.5813miles or 24,333,557,314,960.60 football fields


Calculating Speed of Goku’s Space Ship

Speed 1: Take the distance found above for Speed 1 (1,516,519,969,680km) and divide it by the time it took to get there (6 days or 144 hours). = 10,531,388,678.33 km/hr
Thus, on the low end Goku’s ship traveled on average at a speed of:10,531,388,678.33 km/hr


Speed 2: Take the distance found above for 2,225,060,480,880kmand divide it by the time it took to get there (6 days or 144 hour) = 15,451,808,895.00km/hr






How does that compare to the Speed of Light?

• Low End Speed of Goku's Space Ship:10,531,388,678.33 km/hr 10 billion km/hr
  Likely Speed of Goku's Space Ship: 15,451,808,895.00km/hr 15 billion km/hr
  Speed of Light: 1,079,252,850.00 km / hr 1.08 billion km/hr or 1,080 million km/hr

Which Kinda makes Goku's encounter with Star αHZ (ie a star located at coordinates 654 XY) while heading to Planet Namek absurd! (Chozenshu 2)









If you have thoughts I'd love to hear them!

[Polyphase Avatron]

You know normally I think using real science to analyze fantasy fiction like this is silly, but since you're going for it, I will point out that the maximum distance to planet Namek you came up with is only a little over 1/5th of one light-year, and the nearest star in real life is over 4 light years away.

[Kakarot88]

You know normally I think using real science to analyze fantasy fiction like this is silly, but since you're going for it, I will point out that the maximum distance to planet Namek you came up with is only a little over 1/5th of one light-year, and the nearest star in real life is over 4 light years away.

Nice! So what you're saying is the Dragon Ball Earth would need to be a different Earth from our own. Works for me

I mean it makes sense considering there are dinosaurs and flying cars in the same scene not to mention the entire universe is fluent in Japanese

[Tyro]

The average distance to Jupiter according to space.com is 778 billion meters. It's hard to estimate the time it took to reach Jupiter but it seems to be implied that it was only a few seconds. I'll go with 5 seconds. So on average God's spacecraft can travel 1.556*10^11 meters/second. That would put Namek 4.571*10^14 km away from Earth.

[Polyphase Avatron]

The average distance to Jupiter according to space.com is 778 billion meters. It's hard to estimate the time it took to reach Jupiter but it seems to be implied that it was only a few seconds. I'll go with 5 seconds. So on average God's spacecraft can travel 1.556*10^11 meters/second. That would put Namek 4.571*10^14 km away from Earth.

That's like 48 light-years.

[mister yummy]

There's no reason Goku's ship has to travel at a constant speed. On Star Trek, for instance, ships slow down considerably when in star systems, because the gravity wells mess with warp feilds. Perhaps something similiar explains why Goku was going so slow near that star.

[flashback0180]

Wow, impressive! I always wondered about it.

But I would like to bring (up) the time when Goku's ship was almost sucked into a star. He used the Kamehameha to push the ship away from the star.

Now if the ship was moving that fast, his ki blast shouldn't be able to travel at all because of all the G force applied on him.

This theory justifies (huh?), when Goku is training in 100 times gravity in the magnetic space storm (because/when/shown by) his Kamehameha failed to move up because of the gravity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VAYIb4AsXo

I am not saying your calculations are wrong, I'm saying we just don't know how the ship works.

[Polyphase Avatron]

There's no reason Goku's ship has to travel at a constant speed. On Star Trek, for instance, ships slow down considerably when in star systems, because the gravity wells mess with warp feilds. Perhaps something similiar explains why Goku was going so slow near that star.

True, although a lot of inconsistencies creep into the series when you use filler.