Universe 7 contains only 4 galaxies?

[Low Tone G]

Does the known DB universe contain only 4 galaxies: The Northern, Southern, Western and the Eastern?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Yes. But I would imagine that these 4 galaxies would contain other smaller galaxies in them.

[Marco Polo]

I'm sure 4 galaxies is still a lot to King Yemma.

[Saiyan007]

It's not literally 4 galaxies.

In the north galaxy there is a galaxy itself called the milky way galaxy

[Strife1]

There are only four galaxies in Universe 7. Within these galaxies are planets. Planet Earth is in the North Galaxy aka the Milky Way.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Herms typically always has us covered. So here is an excerpt with relevant tidbits underlined:

The Universe
宇宙/Uchuu
Translation: the universe, space, outer space

The universe is the upper portion of the living world, and is the realm where Goku and the other main characters live and die. It’s the only portion of the DB world that even remotely resembles reality, being based off of the actual universe (or at least the universe as seen in countless sci-fi space operas like Star Wars). As such it consists of countless planets, stars, and other celestial bodies. Daizenshuu 7 explains that in the DB universe, a collection of planets forms a nebula, and a collection of nebulas forms a galaxy (in actual modern astronomy, nebula are collections of space dust and gas rather than planets, though the term was originally looser and included galaxies). There are four galaxies in the DB universe: north, south, east, and west.

These 4 galaxies serve as the governing areas for the gods, and so each one is overseen by the corresponding Kaio and Kaioshin. In fact, Daizenshuu 7 says that the “galaxies” of DB are merely administrational units used by the gods, and so there’s nothing stopping races from travelling from one galaxy to another, provided they have the technology to do so. So basically, these “galaxies” don’t have much reality as physical divisions, and are sort of like the boarders between countries. It’s not clear what significance the cardinal directions could have in space, but the map of the DB world shows what appear to be division lines between galaxies engraved into the living world’s outer walls, so that might have something to do with it.

[Herms]

Just for completion's sake, I guess I should mention that part in Daizenshuu 7's glossary that makes it sound like there are an infinite number of galaxies in the DB universe:

The four Kaiou who rule over the east, west, south, and north [sections] of the universe actually govern these galaxies. Because the Kami in the Heavenly Realm and the Kaiou supervise the galaxies that exist infinitely in all the universe, the sections known as the East, West, South, and North Galaxies are denominations that came into use through their duty.

Which is somewhat open to interpretation, and besides, various other parts of Daizenshuu 7 and other guidebooks and whatnot all say there are only 4 galaxies, so we can probably safely ignore this. Plus, the idea of the Kaios splitting an infinite number of galaxies up between themselves is hilariously futile (not that one person having to oversee an entire galaxy sounds all that workable either).

[DannyDBZfanforever]

How great are the galaxies in the DB Universe? Are they with the same size as our galaxies? I mean, Goku took only 6 days to go to another galaxy, so I have the impression that the galaxies are not very big ...

[Hellspawn28]

From what I can remember that our universe has billion of galaxies and the Milky Way galaxy is about 100,000 light years in diameter. I guess it's possible the galaxies in DB are smaller or just Goku had a very fast space ship. The series had FTL space travel since the start of the Saiyan saga. Kami's space ship went from Earth to Jupiter in seconds.

[Darkprince410]

How great are the galaxies in the DB Universe? Are they with the same size as our galaxies? I mean, Goku took only 6 days to go to another galaxy, so I have the impression that the galaxies are not very big ...

Galaxies have varying size, both in the Z universe and ours. Besides, if you remember, the ship Goku took to travel to Namek was based on his original Saiya-jin spacepod, including the faster-than-light drive. We see that the ship that brought the Son of Katatz to Earth was capable of traveling several times the speed of light (given that it made it from the Earth to Jupiter near instantly and it takes light over half an hour to traverse that distance even when the two planets are closest to eachother), and that ship took a couple months to reach Namek from Earth, whereas Goku's ship made the trip in under a week.

Assuming both ships were traveling at their respective maximum velocities, Goku's ship is roughly ten times faster than the Son of Katatz's, so you're looking at hundreds of times the velocity of light easily.

[sekzee]

If I recall correctly, it only took Bulma and the others 34 (or 35) days to reach Namek.

[Darkprince410]

If I recall correctly, it only took Bulma and the others 34 (or 35) days to reach Namek.

You're right. They left on November 14th and reached Namek on December 18th, so a little over a month. I don't know where I got two months from. However, the fact remains that if the two were both being pushed to their full speeds, that would still mean that Goku's ship was 5 times faster than the Son of Katatz's, and given that his ship was many times the velocity of light (Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds when it takes light half an hour minimum to make the same journey), that'd put Goku's all the faster.

[valfranx]

Just for completion's sake, I guess I should mention that part in Daizenshuu 7's glossary that makes it sound like there are an infinite number of galaxies in the DB universe:

The four Kaiou who rule over the east, west, south, and north [sections] of the universe actually govern these galaxies. Because the Kami in the Heavenly Realm and the Kaiou supervise the galaxies that exist infinitely in all the universe, the sections known as the East, West, South, and North Galaxies are denominations that came into use through their duty.

Which is somewhat open to interpretation, and besides, various other parts of Daizenshuu 7 and other guidebooks and whatnot all say there are only 4 galaxies, so we can probably safely ignore this. Plus, the idea of the Kaios splitting an infinite number of galaxies up between themselves is hilariously futile (not that one person having to oversee an entire galaxy sounds all that workable either).

very strange, because the Daizenshuu 7 French not mention anything about galaxies that exist infinitely in the part of the glossary.
The original says that the number of galaxies is 4, and also says that the reason of kaioshins and KAIOS have decided create only 4 galaxies, is for facilitate control.



for me the existence of other galaxies has always been something created by fans because I watched all the episodes of the anime and i read the manga. even dragon ball BOG at the beginning of the film shows that the northern galaxy is formed by only a single galaxy. one filler goku in another world, akira asked to production team to add extra official information that also was also passed to the guides. about The concept of universe and how many galaxies exist in the universe, and was told that was formed by 4 galaxies.


Another common mistake I see is translating this kanji 银河
to the word "Milky Way", Generally this kanji is used to word galaxy. in rare cases depending on the context can be translated as Milky Way.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

Figured that I would try to revive this 2024 thread for a little while. Has it been proven to this day or not if the DB universe consists of only 4 galaxies? Any new information to prove otherwise or is it pretty clear.

[Saiyan007]

Figured that I would try to revive this 2024 thread for a little while. Has it been proven to this day or not if the DB universe consists of only 4 galaxies? Any new information to prove otherwise or is it pretty clear.

actually the last episode of Super showed it's basically the same as our universe



Countless amount of galaxies

[Zelvin]

It is actually explained that the DBU is divided into 4 Quadrants, each representing a quarter of the entire universe. Each quadrant in appearance look like galaxies, thus the name of North, South, East and West Galaxy as their names when, in fact, they aren't singular galaxies. They are given the name of the four cardinal directions, but aren't so limited. Each one contains countless galaxies within them.

In the recent Super manga, Jaco himself states, when asked where the center of the universe is, that the universe is unfathomably vast and contains an endless number of galaxies. One would need to be omniscient to know where the actual center of the universe is.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Figured that I would try to revive this 2024 thread for a little while. Has it been proven to this day or not if the DB universe consists of only 4 galaxies? Any new information to prove otherwise or is it pretty clear.

actually the last episode of Super showed it's basically the same as our universe



Countless amount of galaxies

If you take that image as a literal depiction of the edge to the center of the universe, it looks more like a few dozen galaxies...

[saunasolmu]

Figured that I would try to revive this 2024 thread for a little while. Has it been proven to this day or not if the DB universe consists of only 4 galaxies? Any new information to prove otherwise or is it pretty clear.

actually the last episode of Super showed it's basically the same as our universe



Countless amount of galaxies

If you take that image as a literal depiction of the edge to the center of the universe, it looks more like a few dozen galaxies...

Every single dot in the background would be a galaxy there. Stars wouldn't be visible.

[Khin]

Yeah,all of them are galaxies.(There's also a line in the manga where Jaco said there were tons of galaxies in the universe)

[Adamant]

Figured that I would try to revive this 2024 thread for a little while. Has it been proven to this day or not if the DB universe consists of only 4 galaxies? Any new information to prove otherwise or is it pretty clear.

Daizenshuu 7 is stupidly vaguely worded, but it seems like what it was actually trying to say was that the universe is split into four areas called the "North Area", "West Area" etc, each of which is governed by a Kaio, and that each area contains numerous galaxies collectively referred to as The North Galaxies", "The West Galaxies", etc.

EDIT: Actually fuck it, it DOES say the universe is divided into four galaxies.
Maybe they just misunderstood Toriyama?