Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

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Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by precita » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:54 pm

I always see people say that Japan isn't as critical of Super as us "westerners" so I'm curious what is the Japanese opinion on Super?

Its easy to forget the Japanese are seeing these Super episodes for the first time the same way we are, so for the first time all around the world Dragonball is new to everyone. So what did the Japanese think of the Zamasu arc, Future Trunks, Vegito, etc?

Is the opinion generally the same across the board? Are they more forgiving of some of Super's writings than us?

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:01 pm

Well, I know that some Japanese fans were pissed about the whole inconsistent line in episode 60 about how Goku never kissed Chi-Chi

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:19 pm

Sometimes out of curiosity, i watch super's videos posted by japanese fans, just to translate the comments in google, and overall, i think that they view it in the same way, there are those that love it and others that hate it.
But they may change on some things idk, that scene of Vegeta clapping in ep 24, bothered a lot of people in the comment section of the western audience but once i found that video in japanese, and it had like a lot of views and likes, and i was like : "It's just Vegeta clapping, what's so great about it?"
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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:33 pm

I hope so, because it seems like Toei doesn't care at all about the westerns audience opinion.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:07 pm

Not sure about the Japanese fanbase at large but kei17 lost interest because of the trajectory the series was going in.
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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Esfír Dedragón » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:36 pm

If Toei should give a darn about anything, it should be its native Japanese audience.

I wonder how they feel about Toriyama viewing his series as being more suited for kids than for older audiences.
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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:18 am

SaiyanGod117 wrote:I hope so, because it seems like Toei doesn't care at all about the westerns audience opinion.
Well, with Super, they wouldn't have had us in mind as it likely wasn't particularly planned to have a Western release (though they could've at least hoped to localize it elsewhere, to make more money).
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Post by sintzu » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:49 am

Anime Kitten wrote:Is that true? He really quit the franchise? :?:
Not the whole franchise, just Super.
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Post by Avery » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:17 pm

I recall Kei17 talking about the 2ch thread being "full of complaints" despite newer fans still enjoying the series but that was a year ago.
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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:24 pm

I don't why they wouldn't. There's always going to separate portions of any given fanbase that will offer a differing opinions on a particular subject.

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by simtek34 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:22 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:Well, I know that some Japanese fans were pissed about the whole inconsistent line in episode 60 about how Goku never kissed Chi-Chi
That was a Dub-ism. Only in the FUNimation dub

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Fionordequester » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:32 pm

simtek34 wrote:That was a Dub-ism. Only in the FUNimation dub
...huh? Are you saying that there's a FUNI dub of Dragon Ball Super Episode 60? That they've already dubbed it, and already mangled the translations somehow :eh: ?
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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Razorsaw » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:39 pm

The ratings are always pretty high so that's far, far more important.

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:46 pm

simtek34 wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:Well, I know that some Japanese fans were pissed about the whole inconsistent line in episode 60 about how Goku never kissed Chi-Chi
That was a Dub-ism. Only in the FUNimation dub
Super doesn't have a dub. And even in the Japanese it's heavily implied it was a kiss. Bandai even made a figure of it. Regardless the line is still really dumb and inconsistent with manga Goku. There he flat out said he could get naked pictures of Bulma (and said she was still hot. That doesn't sound like someone who doesn't know what a kiss is and/or never had one

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:49 pm

While this is pretty off-topic, I've interpreted that line as Goku saying he's never delivered a Senzu in that manner, not that he's never kissed someone.
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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:55 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:While this is pretty off-topic, I've interpreted that line as Goku saying he's never delivered a Senzu in that manner, not that he's never kissed someone.
Exactly. The humour was the miscommunication between Goku and Vegeta hence why Vegeta was so quick to drop it.

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Re: Do the Japanese fans view Super the same way westerners do?

Post by precita » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:16 pm

Does anyone know how the Japanese reacted to the last episode with Trunks timeline wiped out? Was it similar to us?

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