How Universe 11 could have won
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How Universe 11 could have won
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Step 1: Cocotte puts everyone on the team except for Toppo, Jiren, and Dyspo in a Cocotte Zone bubble, both protecting them and allowing them to float above the arena
Step 2: Toppo, Jiren, and Dyspo quickly eliminate all flying competitors with ki blasts
Step 3: Toppo and Jiren smash the arena, causing all other competitors to fall
Step 1: Cocotte puts everyone on the team except for Toppo, Jiren, and Dyspo in a Cocotte Zone bubble, both protecting them and allowing them to float above the arena
Step 2: Toppo, Jiren, and Dyspo quickly eliminate all flying competitors with ki blasts
Step 3: Toppo and Jiren smash the arena, causing all other competitors to fall
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Re: How Universe 11 could have won
Pride troopers go to one side of ring at the start. Toppo transforms into a GoD, Jiren goes FP and they combine their ki to create one big ass attack and wipe out everyone .
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Jiren could have literally wiped out everyone in the arena instantly with no problems but that would have made for a very boring plot and would go against his character.
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Simple, had Jiren stopped procrastinating and dragging his feet and actually doing everything he has in his power to eliminate the rest of U7 members, that would’ve spared U11 the grief of having to hear Belmod’s squirming.
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Like what PFM18 said and what most will probably say, Jiren could've done it at the very beginning if he wanted to.
Although U11 didn't win the conventional way, no one on the stage could beat him in a fight as U7 at the end had no choice but to force him off the stage so in a way they did win by having the strongest fighter at the end. With UI being unusable at will, I think we won't see a fighter as strong as him until Super's 3rd arc when it returns so that in itself is a major win as by the end of an arc the villain is usually left in the dust by who comes next.
Although U11 didn't win the conventional way, no one on the stage could beat him in a fight as U7 at the end had no choice but to force him off the stage so in a way they did win by having the strongest fighter at the end. With UI being unusable at will, I think we won't see a fighter as strong as him until Super's 3rd arc when it returns so that in itself is a major win as by the end of an arc the villain is usually left in the dust by who comes next.
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Jiren could have ended it in 10 seconds.
Universe 11 should have won.
Jiren being as strong as he is probably reduces his potential future screen time.
Universe 11 should have won.
Then by that 3rd arc Jiren is already way stronger than he is now.sintzu wrote:Like what PFM18 said and what most will probably say, Jiren could've done it at the very beginning if he wanted to.
Although U11 didn't win the conventional way, no one on the stage could beat him in a fight as U7 at the end had no choice but to force him off the stage so in a way they did win by having the strongest fighter at the end. With UI being unusable at will, I think we won't see a fighter as strong as him until Super's 3rd arc when it returns so that in itself is a major win as by the end of an arc the villain is usually left in the dust by who comes next.
Jiren being as strong as he is probably reduces his potential future screen time.
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That and the fact that they kept hyping up Goku and Hit's "rematch" only for Goku to leave him in the dust so the same could happen here but hopefully not as I'd love to see a changed Jiren fight Goku again.namekiansaiyan wrote:Jiren being as strong as he is probably reduces his potential future screen time.
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Re: How Universe 11 could have won
This is one of the many scenarios in Dragon Ball where you need to suspend your disbelief because the narrative want to get the most out of a battle. You might as well start asking why the cast don't use the Dragon Balls to prevents a threat before it happens.
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The difference between Jiren and Hit ia that Jiren is currently way stronger than Goku.sintzu wrote:That and the fact that they kept hyping up Goku and Hit's "rematch" only for Goku to leave him in the dust so the same could happen here but hopefully not as I'd love to see a changed Jiren fight Goku again.namekiansaiyan wrote:Jiren being as strong as he is probably reduces his potential future screen time.
Jiren will be like what he was when Goku and Frieza teamed up. I don't really see what would really change with Jiren when he fights in the future.
If Jiren gets left behind then so do GoDs which I don't see happening.
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Jiren now may decide to be more trusting of others and change his views on life and if Vegeta is anyone to go by (someone who drastically changed) then it'll help him in battle and training...Then again, Piccolo also changed and he's as useful as Yamcha is so who knows, only time will tell.namekiansaiyan wrote:I don't really see what would really change with Jiren when he fights in the future.
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It won't change how he fights though.sintzu wrote:Jiren now may decide to be more trusting of others and change his views on life and if Vegeta is anyone to go by (someone who drastically changed) then it'll help him in battle and training...Then again, Piccolo also changed and he's as useful as Yamcha is so who knows, only time will tell.namekiansaiyan wrote:I don't really see what would really change with Jiren when he fights in the future.
Piccolo's return is inevitable and Saonel and Pirina better hope it is by a new way instead of a traditional way.
Anyway I would rather have a character not do much than shouting 'muh Bulma' and 'muh Cabbage' every 2 seconds.
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What stake do Saonel and Pirina have?namekiansaiyan wrote:It won't change how he fights though.sintzu wrote:Jiren now may decide to be more trusting of others and change his views on life and if Vegeta is anyone to go by (someone who drastically changed) then it'll help him in battle and training...Then again, Piccolo also changed and he's as useful as Yamcha is so who knows, only time will tell.
Piccolo's return is inevitable and Saonel and Pirina better hope it is by a new way instead of a traditional way.
Anyway I would rather have a character not do much than shouting 'muh Bulma' and 'muh Cabbage' every 2 seconds.
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To say jiren jiren could be as usefull as yamcha in the future, is also to say that G.o.Ds would be as usefull as yamcha as well. So use words carefully.sintzu wrote:Jiren now may decide to be more trusting of others and change his views on life and if Vegeta is anyone to go by (someone who drastically changed) then it'll help him in battle and training...Then again, Piccolo also changed and he's as useful as Yamcha is so who knows, only time will tell.namekiansaiyan wrote:I don't really see what would really change with Jiren when he fights in the future.
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DB doesn't have the best track record for using characters once their arc is over so although comparing him to Yamcha was a joke on my part, he might be completely useless when we see him again. Look how hyped up we were to see Hit again only for him to drop the ball.Kenneth La Torre wrote:To say jiren could be as usefull as yamcha in the future, is also to say that G.o.Ds would be as usefull as yamcha as well. So use words carefully.
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Jiren has ended this arc just like Beerus which was way stronger than Goku.sintzu wrote:DB doesn't have the best track record for using characters once their arc is over so although comparing him to Yamcha was a joke on my part, he might be completely useless when we see him again. Look how hyped up we were to see Hit again only for him to drop the ball.Kenneth La Torre wrote:To say jiren could be as usefull as yamcha in the future, is also to say that G.o.Ds would be as usefull as yamcha as well. So use words carefully.
Jiren right now might be the strongest in all 12 Universes.
Toriyama must want Jiren and Beerus to stay relevant. After what happened to Ultra Instinct.
What is a traditional way of Namekians getting stronger and what happened to 2 other Namekians from Universe 7 we got to know?Simere wrote:What stake do Saonel and Pirina have?namekiansaiyan wrote: It won't change how he fights though.
Piccolo's return is inevitable and Saonel and Pirina better hope it is by a new way instead of a traditional way.
Anyway I would rather have a character not do much than shouting 'muh Bulma' and 'muh Cabbage' every 2 seconds.
I don't want it to happen but will Toriyama and Toei be able to resist it?