Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
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Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Cell's one of my favorite Z villain-y characters whom has an adorable love-hate attitude, a formidable design per transformation and the whole thing about being the perfect being really suits him. It's really a shame that Freeza always gets to be everywhere and Cell was more or less forgotten.
This would also give TOEI a reason to bring back Wakamoto.
This would also give TOEI a reason to bring back Wakamoto.
Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Cell isn't nearly as popular in Japan as Frieza. Frieza is more or less the "face" of Dragon Ball villains, basically the Joker of Dragon Ball. And his actions are the central driving force of Dragon Ball's overall narrative too. Cell's just a weird bug dude.
Cell's popularity is more of a Western thing.
Cell's popularity is more of a Western thing.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
The popular character from the Cell arc was not Cell, but Trunks. Who did get his own arc, plus two movies and another half-arc for his kid self.
From DB Forever, Cell is the least popular of the four main 'Z' arc villains:
From Weekly Jump 1993 Issue No. 12, Cell was less popular than what seemed to be one-shot joke characters at the height of his own arc:
From DB Forever, Cell is the least popular of the four main 'Z' arc villains:
From Weekly Jump 1993 Issue No. 12, Cell was less popular than what seemed to be one-shot joke characters at the height of his own arc:
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Clearly it's because cell had no allies , no one wanted to bring him back to life not the andriods , z squad, or the earthlingsJohnnyCashKami wrote:Cell's one of my favorite Z villain-y characters whom has an adorable love-hate attitude, a formidable design per transformation and the whole thing about being the perfect being really suits him. It's really a shame that Freeza always gets to be everywhere and Cell was more or less forgotten.
This would also give TOEI a reason to bring back Wakamoto.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
They can resolve this with saying he was an artificial being who didn't had an actual soul (just like Androids 16 and 19) to cover up the fact he was the least favorite DBZ villain.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Cell Jrs miss their Dad?Ssjcell wrote:Clearly it's because cell had no allies , no one wanted to bring him back to life not the andriods , z squad, or the earthlingsJohnnyCashKami wrote:Cell's one of my favorite Z villain-y characters whom has an adorable love-hate attitude, a formidable design per transformation and the whole thing about being the perfect being really suits him. It's really a shame that Freeza always gets to be everywhere and Cell was more or less forgotten.
This would also give TOEI a reason to bring back Wakamoto.
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but 16 and 19 were machines, Cell was a living organismGreen_Goblin wrote:They can resolve this with saying he was an artificial being who didn't had an actual soul (just like Androids 16 and 19) to cover up the fact he was the least favorite DBZ villain.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Look at what I bolded. Resolve = excuse. It's Dragon Ball, they're not expecting kids to know that, and they don't keep on consistency.mahakaishin1991 wrote:but 16 and 19 were machines, Cell was a living organismGreen_Goblin wrote:They can resolve this with saying he was an artificial being who didn't had an actual soul (just like Androids 16 and 19) to cover up the fact he was the least favorite DBZ villain.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
And maybe you should rewatch the series because Cell highlights he's biological in series. It gets into a messy area of including clones and other life forms as not having a soul. Heck, you'd risk having Piccolo as soulless since he's a spat out clone of the original demon king.Green_Goblin wrote:Look at what I bolded. Resolve = excuse. It's Dragon Ball, they're not expecting kids to know that, and they don't keep on consistency.mahakaishin1991 wrote:but 16 and 19 were machines, Cell was a living organismGreen_Goblin wrote:They can resolve this with saying he was an artificial being who didn't had an actual soul (just like Androids 16 and 19) to cover up the fact he was the least favorite DBZ villain.
It would be very unlikely he is
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Piccolo was made by BIOLOGICAL reproduction, NOT by amalgam splicing of various genomes. And as I said: it's the SUPER Era, they don't keep things highly sophisticated nor consistent, u know.mahakaishin1991 wrote:And maybe you should rewatch the series because Cell highlights he's biological in series. It gets into a messy area of including clones and other life forms as not having a soul. Heck, you'd risk having Piccolo as soulless since he's a spat out clone of the original demon king.Green_Goblin wrote:Look at what I bolded. Resolve = excuse. It's Dragon Ball, they're not expecting kids to know that, and they don't keep on consistency.mahakaishin1991 wrote:
but 16 and 19 were machines, Cell was a living organism
It would be very unlikely he is
Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
DB is living off of nostalgia and past glory so I think it's only a matter of time before Cell finds his way back into the story. I don't think it'll be a movie cause I don't know if he's popular enough to justify it but he could be in a Super arc once it returns or get something major in heroes like what Cooler has now.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
I had similar doubt. But hey, look at it this way
Movie baddies have bout 30 mins screen-time outta 40-50 mins film & hardly utter even few lines
Cell however had whole mfkin Arc to develop his character, seizing up every moment towards acheiving his perfection while posing as mirroring counterpart against every opponent he's faced
1. Piccolo's sneaky intelligence & sly @ GingerTown showdown
2. Veggie's boastful & arrogant nature @ Super Veggie
3. Goku's confidence & love towards battle @ FPSSJ Goku
4. SSJ2 Kid Gohan's sadistical remarks driven by sickening ego @ climatic Kamehameha struggle
Its actually pretty damn neat in the series & I think TOEI would've reduced Cell into nother Super 13 in movies lol
Even now, after watchin RoF....it still dreads me to think TOEI may "accidentally" give us Diamond Cell
Movie baddies have bout 30 mins screen-time outta 40-50 mins film & hardly utter even few lines
Cell however had whole mfkin Arc to develop his character, seizing up every moment towards acheiving his perfection while posing as mirroring counterpart against every opponent he's faced
1. Piccolo's sneaky intelligence & sly @ GingerTown showdown
2. Veggie's boastful & arrogant nature @ Super Veggie
3. Goku's confidence & love towards battle @ FPSSJ Goku
4. SSJ2 Kid Gohan's sadistical remarks driven by sickening ego @ climatic Kamehameha struggle
Its actually pretty damn neat in the series & I think TOEI would've reduced Cell into nother Super 13 in movies lol
Even now, after watchin RoF....it still dreads me to think TOEI may "accidentally" give us Diamond Cell
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Where's the proof for this?jjgp1112 wrote:
Cell's popularity is more of a Western thing.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Toriyama, or at least some of creative staff in Toei, don't see any storytelling or marketing mileage out of bringing Cell back to life and/or giving him his own story (again).
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
But Freeza got that (imo) shitty ass movie and an arc in Super remade about it? TOEI and Toriyama are lacking creativity if that's the best they can come up with.Lord Beerus wrote:Toriyama, or at least some of creative staff in Toei, don't see any storytelling or marketing mileage out of bringing Cell back to life and/or giving him his own story (again).
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And it would be creative if said movie involved Cell?JohnnyCashKami wrote:But Freeza got that (imo) shitty ass movie and an arc in Super remade about it? TOEI and Toriyama are lacking creativity if that's the best they can come up with.Lord Beerus wrote:Toriyama, or at least some of creative staff in Toei, don't see any storytelling or marketing mileage out of bringing Cell back to life and/or giving him his own story (again).
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Look at the bright side, at least we're not getting a Broly movie.JohnnyCashKami wrote:But Freeza got that (imo) shitty ass movie and an arc in Super remade about it? TOEI and Toriyama are lacking creativity if that's the best they can come up with.Lord Beerus wrote:Toriyama, or at least some of creative staff in Toei, don't see any storytelling or marketing mileage out of bringing Cell back to life and/or giving him his own story (again).
In terms of Freeza, he's the original story's most popular villain so he's going to sell and attract viewers regardless of the quality. It's a shame modern DB is a bit lacking when it comes to creativity but that's not completely its fault as fans are clearly happy with it based on the sales so you can't really blame the people behind it for making what sells.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
He doesn't really need a movie, I feel that his story arc was wrapped up quite nicely in the Cell Saga, along with the fact that there are other characters who are more popular than Cell who will bring in more money for Toei/Toriyama like Broly and Freeza.
The Cell Jrs are all dead lol. Cell has no friends.mahakaishin1991 wrote: Cell Jrs miss their Dad?
Well, despite there being no concrete proof to the claim that Cell is popular in the West (E.G: Popularity Polls) I have met a lot of Western Dragon Ball Fans who do say that Cell is their favorite Villain (He is my favorite DB Villain), though Freeza is generally more popular among Western Fans along with Japanese Fans (especially among more causal fans of the franchise).Hellspawn28 wrote:Where's the proof for this?jjgp1112 wrote:
Cell's popularity is more of a Western thing.
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Re: Why didn't Cell get his own movie?
Probably not. Modern Dragon Ball has been rather underwhelming in terms of stories, characters, music and quality arcs/movies.CTAkuma wrote:And it would be creative if said movie involved Cell?JohnnyCashKami wrote:But Freeza got that (imo) shitty ass movie and an arc in Super remade about it? TOEI and Toriyama are lacking creativity if that's the best they can come up with.Lord Beerus wrote:Toriyama, or at least some of creative staff in Toei, don't see any storytelling or marketing mileage out of bringing Cell back to life and/or giving him his own story (again).
Freeza's movie could have been so much better and I was really hoping it would've been.