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by Pantalones
Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: OK, before it is revealed, what do you think Vegeta's Yardrat tehnique will actually be?
Replies: 14
Views: 854

Re: OK, before it is revealed, what do you think Vegeta's Yardrat tehnique will actually be?

Maybe it will keep him connected to energy stolen by Moro so he can mess with his body after being drained. So when all seems lost and all lay on the ground defeated unbenounced, to Moro has been bugged by Vegeta's energy allowing geets to do some cool stuff. The idea of a character being able to c...
by Pantalones
Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who Else Has the Potential to Turn 'Good'?
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Who Else Has the Potential to Turn 'Good'?

Nappa and Raditz could potentially have switched sides. They weren't as ruthless as Vegeta, and he ended up a good guy in the end. Plus, Nappa wanted to wish Raditz back at first and wondered about repopulating the Saiyan race by interbreeding with humans -- Vegeta's the one who goes on about "Saiya...
by Pantalones
Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:39 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Kid Goku didn't have a power-level of ten at the beginning of DB.
Replies: 21
Views: 1482

Re: Kid Goku didn't have a power-level of ten at the beginning of DB.

I've always thought beginning-of-Dragonball kid Goku would be more along the lines of a 20-25 based on just how far above normal humans (and even strongman types like Mr. Satan) he was even back then. That puts him comfortably above both normal humans and the kind of power levels I'd estimate for "o...
by Pantalones
Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta and Hell
Replies: 3
Views: 337

Re: Vegeta and Hell

Well, he did qualify as a "good/pure-hearted Saiyan" for purposes of the Super Saiyan God ritual. Maybe that's just comparing to how (genocidally) bad most Saiyans were historically rather than measuring by the same standards that determine whether you go to Hell or not, but it's still a point in DB...
by Pantalones
Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36201
Views: 2824262

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The so called "Rupturing Sorcery" that he used on Spopovich would be extremely dangerous to anyone who can't regenerate their entire body as it's described as causing the blood in the victim's body to violently convulse, causing their body to swell and tear itself apart. A high power level shouldn'...
by Pantalones
Fri May 10, 2019 1:25 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28455
Views: 2080122

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

(by the way it's parallel universes not timelines) ...they're the same thing. DBM's universes are pretty much all defined by "something different happened in the past so it turned out another way than the DBZ we know"... and they literally have Trunks's "bad future" timeline as one of the universes...
by Pantalones
Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo & Android 18 post-Tournament of Power
Replies: 20
Views: 4938

Re: Piccolo & Android 18 post-Tournament of Power

Piccolo was shown to be above Super Saiyan 2 Gohan before the tournament so he’s most likely still at that level (which is probably around Super Perfect Cell). Eh? SSj2 Gohan during the Cell Games was far ahead of Cell (able to match his Kamehameha with only one arm and feeling like he'd lost half ...
by Pantalones
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28455
Views: 2080122

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

As for the pacing, I would take a chapter once a month over the padding side-chapters. Especially when Genie Buu added nothing to the story other than confirming that Zen Buu is a Sue. It was even more pointless than the villain win side-stories. Pointless maybe, but "Buu grants Hirudegarn's wish t...
by Pantalones
Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: I don't get "Wuxia" from the Kikuchi score
Replies: 28
Views: 1960

Re: I don't get "Wuxia" from the Kikuchi score

Super's insistence on providing a new opening every five episodes to sell another Single CD ...say what? Super's had exactly two opening songs, "Chozetsu Dynamic" and "Limit Break x Survivor." I can only assume you must've meant the ending songs instead -- it does seem like they switch those every ...
by Pantalones
Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:04 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35370
Views: 1801767

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

New Hypothetical Question How strong would Radgeta (the Metamoran fusion of Raditz and Vegeta [Saiyan Saga]) be? Fusions are described as being "tens of times" stronger than the people who fused to make them. But since Vegeta would have to lower his power to match Raditz... there's a possibility th...
by Pantalones
Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 16092

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

Why do many people believe that Evil Boo was stronger than Pure Boo? Because Goku spent Super Buu's entire existence avoiding him and admitting outright that he couldn't win against that form of Buu. And then as soon as Kid Buu turns up he's all "yeah, we did it, we can handle him now!"... and it's...
by Pantalones
Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra Full Power Saiyan 4
Replies: 4
Views: 719

Re: Ultra Full Power Saiyan 4

I'm not 100% sure, but if I had to guess I'd say they probably used "chou" -- which I've seen translated as either "super" or "ultra."
by Pantalones
Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could Son Gohan Have Equaled Super Buu (Base Form) With Super Saiyan 3?
Replies: 19
Views: 1482

Re: Could Son Gohan Have Equaled Super Buu (Base Form) With Super Saiyan 3?

Mystic/Ultimate Gohan was Gohan with his power drawn out "far beyond its limits." So, effortlessly smacking Super Buu around the way he did was beyond the normal limits of how strong he could get just from training and unlocking Super Saiyan forms... but we don't know exactly where his normal limits...
by Pantalones
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who would have been more useful in the future timeline: Krillin or Piccolo
Replies: 9
Views: 1060

Re: Who would have been more useful in the future timeline: Krillin or Piccolo

Piccolo still being alive means Kami still being alive, which means they still have Dragon Balls. There's not really any way Krillin can compete with that. They could wish for a way to become stronger and find out about the Room of Spirit and Time that way, for example -- let's say Piccolo goes in w...
by Pantalones
Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Rildo stronger than Buuhan?
Replies: 39
Views: 2975

Re: Is Rildo stronger than Buuhan?

I've never seen any reason to interpret "Rilldo's hiding his full power, and it might be even stronger than Majin Buu" as "Rilldo is definitely stronger than the strongest form of Majin Buu, which Goku actively avoided fighting." Everyone who chooses to take it that way seems to have a weird ulterio...
by Pantalones
Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: False Super Saiyan 2...
Replies: 2
Views: 640

Re: False Super Saiyan 2...

"False Super Saiyan" doesn't even exist (it's just regular ol' Super Saiyan with a different design because the real design hadn't been revealed yet at the time the Slug movie came out), so... that'd be a no for "False Super Saiyan 2" also. Though I suppose you could refer to the Cell Saga's "trying...
by Pantalones
Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: God Fusion Goku (4D)
Replies: 10
Views: 1735

Re: God Fusion Goku (4D)

It technically makes sense that a "real" person would be omnipotent to a "fictional" person. No... no, it really doesn't. What can any of us do to the concept of Goku? Diddly squat, that's what. Dragon Ball is a ridiculously widespread and popular series, so Goku's everywhere, and there's no way an...
by Pantalones
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Inconsistencies within the manga
Replies: 32
Views: 2500

Re: Inconsistencies within the manga

Another Z to Super inconsistency: The base Saiyans seem to be estimated less powerful than Freeza without Super Saiyans. Yet Vegeta agreed to participate in a tournament with Piccolo and 18. Some people want to act like it os just Vegeta showing off but that's nonsensical. There is no way he agrees...
by Pantalones
Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Captain Ginyu´s First form
Replies: 5
Views: 734

Re: Captain Ginyu´s First form

Wasn't it said in some of the supplementary material that Salza/Sauza/however-you-want-to-spell-his-name from the Cooler movie is one of the few people who's seen Ginyu's original body, and that they'd competed against each other for positions of power in the past?
by Pantalones
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is the strongest (living) character at the end of the original series?
Replies: 49
Views: 3350

Re: Who is the strongest (living) character at the end of the original series?

2. Where is everyone getting this Buu arc Ssj2 Goku and Vegeta are barely stronger than Ssj2 Cell Games Gohan? Basically, it's because raging SSj2 Gohan at the Cell Games is constantly used as a "measuring stick" throughout the early Buu Saga -- which wouldn't make sense if that level of power has ...