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Seeing how LEGENDS completely ignored the mini versions of SSJ3 Vegeta and SSJ4 Goku from DAIMA and jumped straight to the adult versions just confirms the general thought here that the kid versions have way less appeal than their current ones.


Is that really a surprise?

Can't think of any ...

QuakingStar wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:51 pm
I don't give a fuck if you want to repeat yourself or not. The Manga is referred to as the True Story, not the anime. Go cry to somebody else about it.

anime was referred to as canon as well

What a disappointing episode that just leaves you with more questions

So apparently Goku could use ssj4 the entire time :lol: that’s ridiculous,so I’m assuming Daima takes place in another timeline because surely the writers aren’t going to believe anyone watching this thinks Daima and super takes ...

Give me Super any day of the week especially after Daima's head scratching ending

2) If Son Goku and Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito to try to stop Hakaishin Beerus during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS, then Vegito in his Base Form would have been able to get the job done, as the Base Form of the version of Vegito that would have been fighting ...

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Episode 17 Gomah is called the strongest foe so he scales higher than buuhan and he's gotten stronger since turns out the cast even when nerfed are still strong

Glorio is stronger than Shin of course. Mini Shin that is.


Goku's statement was referring to Supreme Kai in general he didn't say you are stronger than Supreme kai as he is right now

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Vegeta was only starting to lose steam, which reinforces the idea that Gomah wasn’t going all out at ...

Goku took on someone stronger than Supreme Kai who would 1 shot Freeza with 1 arm while being heavily nerfed

Stop trying to fit base Saiyan to be weaker than Freeza narrative because the feats say otherwise

People thinking base saiyans are still weaker than Freeza

Wasn’t glorio stated to be stronger than Shin who Goku could fight with 1 arm and base Goku could fight majin duu

And this is after the revelation the wish probably made them hundreds of times weaker

How much weaker did they get as kids?

Base Vegeta was knocking around Gomah something that Ssj4 mini Goku couldn’t do.Must be a massive nerf.

Secondly, having God Ki does not mean SSG is stronger. Gohan Beast does not have God Ki. Jiren did not have God Ki. Black Frieza does not have God Ki.


I don't think he ever mentioned God ki means he's stronger.Supreme Kai has god ki as well doesn't mean he beats anyone with non godly energy ...

Question:
If indeed we get an actual SS3 fusion(or hell, maybe even a SS4 fusion at this rate) in Daima, would that retroactively give SSG Goku even more of a verifiable buff, given his statement in BoG that not even fusion would be enough to contend with Beerus(which potentially scales SSG above ...

Dragonball powerscaling is not so inconsistent that you cannot determine who is stronger between two different characters. DB has a very simply power system to follow, characters usually don't have powerful abilities that can change an outcome of a fight.

Feats and statements are usually more than ...

Hulk10 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:26 pm I was stating a fact. Powerscaling is always inconsistent in Dragon Ball. I'm not the only one saying it.

Sure it is but doesn't mean you ignore the evidence on who is stronger, that's like me claiming Yamcha can beat Superman because powerscaling is inconsistent in comics

I would respond to all that but i feel like it would derail the thread

That's not why I ignore it. Please put words in my mouth when you don't know me or my reasons.


Well that's essentially what you're doing you said

Powerscaling has always been inconsistent so that seems to not be much of a factor.


That's you saying you don't like powerscaling so you ignore ...

No its a not factor because it goes all over the place, sometimes it shows one thing, but other times it completely disregards what it previously showed.

Again if you want to ignore it because it doesn't suit you that's fine but again Daima is a prequel to super, unless something changes in the ...

And SSJ3 was so powerful it could warp the laws of physics. Does it really matter all that much?
The characters are already extremely unbelievably powerful. Any feat after the Boo Saga is stretching incredulity at this point.


SSJ3 "never warped Physics" in the manga

edit: unless you're ...

Hulk10 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:03 pm
Powerscaling has always been inconsistent so that seems to not be much of a factor.

It's not a factor to you because its shows SSJG as the superior form lol

but since Daima is a prequel to Super(unless something changes this) it still would make it weaker a weaker form

That's fair enough. But SS4 gave me that feel, big time. And in DB Heroes Anime SS4 was shown in a similar light, especially with its Limit Breaker Form. SSG felt flashy and unsubstatial, where as SS4 really came from the deepest part of the Saiyan's potential, after all it is said to bring out ...