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Pan? Probably the single most insufferable character in the show. Goes from an energetic, enthusiastic martial artist to this absurdly annoying brat for the entire run who was purposely written to be a damsel in distress to prop up other heroes. Just an absolute butchering of the strong little girl ...

Sorry I noticed the disk in Goten's hand, so the disk is still there (broken). Hedo didn't discard the disk before, he discarded it only after he retrieved it from Trunks' bag. I think he dicarded it because the disk was the reason why Trunks stole the precious photo signed by Clean God. I still don ...

At some point Trunks stole a disk from Dr. Hedo's safe. Then he went home and inserted the disk into Bulma's laptop and a picture about Cell appeared. Then he removed the disk and put it back into the case.

https://freeimage.host/i/Bmi8HV2

Then he went to the dance party and took the disk with ...

Too many prominent classic characters and concepts have already been dragged through the mud and devalued by the modern slop — Freeza, Bardock, Trunks, Broli, Super Saiyan 4... even Goku himself.
How is Bardock devalued? I agree about Freeza, too many transformations (just bland color swaps), but ...

This whole "Toriyama involvement" makes little sense you know. To be honest Toriyama didn't even create Krillin (volume fucking ONE, year 1984), he was created by his editor because the story was boring and needed a rival. If the original 1984 Dragon Ball manga was written entirely by Toriyama it ...

I'm reading the Trunks and Goten saiyamen arc. It sucks, but it's still Dragon Ball

Anyway, how can Trunks be afraid of ghosts when Gotenks literally shot ghosts out of his mouth? Makes sense?

King Piccolo saga is the first time Toriyama tried something dramatic

And it was good, but the comedy tone was already dead in the 80s

I don't understand how people hate Super Recolours but then praise SS4. It's literally the corniest and edgiest thing ever. It doesn't match Dragon Ball's tone
Dragon Ball's original tone died during King Piccolo saga

Edgy is not a bad word, maybe for you 12 year old of the Z generation. We ...

A "memory wipe" would be even sadder LOL

That would mean Super is utter trash

Super is actually a genuine story that Toriyama wanted to tell
Toriyama wanted to tell or Toei wanted to sell?

Super Saiyan 2 is not a recolor, it's the same color with different hair style and more power. Super Saiyan 3 is the same color with longer hair, no eyebrows etc. Super Saiyan 4 looks ...

In the original manga we can see North Kaio only

You mean South Kaioshin

The true reason for Piccolo and all namekians having 5 fingers in Z / GT / Super is because 4 fingers remind people about the Yakuza that got a finger cut for having done something wrong. Plus 4 is written "shi" that means "death". These are the reasons, but it's an inconsistency with the original ...

Canon and continuity inconsistency are not mutually exclusive, otherwise the original manga would be non canon with itself.
It's not a plot hole, it's a choice

They decided to give him 5 fingers, but in the manga he has 4. IN the anime he has 5 but anime is not canon, so...

Both the manga and ...

I have a question, if Super is canon then why Piccolo has 5 fingers?

Super is most certainly closer to Toriyama's original vision than that edgy/emo Cell saga.

Both are very far from the real Toriyama's style you can see in Dr Slump and first chapters of Dragon Ball, or even Cowa

You see the HUGE difference between Cowa and DBS. Hell, even SandLand is very ...

Toriyama didn't even create Krilin, the most important side character in the entire franchise, because he was created by the editor, and his style was completely different from what we've seen in DBZ (read Dr. Slump if you want to see the real Toriyama) but people are telling X and Y are not canon ...

Hello everybody, nice forum. Few days ago I watched Wrath of the Dragon (13th movie) for the first time, I found this which is a pretty 'big' mistake if you ask me:

First this, the larva form from whcih will be born the final form:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8572/09s1.png

Then this which ...