Kanzenshuu

1) He wouldn't know exact values, but he'd still be able to accurately gauge strength. Goku has shown himself to be one of the most proficient members of the Z Senshi as far as sensing and analyzing ki, so there's no reason to assume that he'd put the safety of the world (not to mention the direct ...

Final answer - I don't even know what point you were trying to make. Goku is obviously superior to Gohan and Gotenks if you read the story and not try to make up things to fit what you want to believe. 1) Except Goku himself, knowing full well how Fusion works, believes that with the boys' strength...

For me, M8 Broli is beyond SSJ, almost SSJ2 level making him stronger than Normal Cell.
M10 Broli is obviously above a SSJ2 judging by the way he easily trashes Gohan.

I just wish the expanded on him a bit more...

Gotenks was not SSJ3 tier strength (unless Goku was holding back considerably - which is indicated by Vegeta) but no. That would mean the daizenshuu is incorrect, and to be honest nothing indicates that is, except for weak fan theory. Your theories can ONLY be valid if they don't contradict what is...

TheGmGoken wrote:Thor best marvel? Spider man is the GOAT(greatest of all time). Imagine Gohan as Saiyanman in Marvel

Gohan is a trash character who was replaced with a proper hero - He is nothing like Spider-Man.

The Guidebooks state what they state - Goku is bar far in away the single strongest character in the Manga outside of Gohan/Gotenks Buu and Vegetto. Even the Anime/movies has SSJ3 Goku making fodder out Gohan and Gotenks. You're just wrong on this.

When you mean Gotenks surpassed Vegeta and the others, you mean he didn't surpassed Goku? :eh: I'm kinda confused in this thread, as I always had Gotenks' powerlevel as far superior to Goku's. That's what the arguement is about. Some people believe that Gotenks as a SSJ is SSJ3 Goku Tier (making hi...

Thor > All. (I don't even care for the Avengers anyhow. It's all about Spider-man and the Xmen!) I like the Avengers, but I do agree that Thor is the best Marvel character. I really liked what JMS did with the character. He's a great support character and when he returned after civil war for Seige,...

When you mean Gotenks surpassed Vegeta and the others, you mean he didn't surpassed Goku? :eh: I'm kinda confused in this thread, as I always had Gotenks' powerlevel as far superior to Goku's. That's what the arguement is about. Some people believe that Gotenks as a SSJ is SSJ3 Goku Tier (making hi...

Thor > All. (I don't even care for the Avengers anyhow. It's all about Spider-man and the Xmen!)

Except that I just pointed out that Kaioshinn was more scared of KidBuu than of "buffBuu" and SuperBuu. That throws a wrench in that logic. Kaioshin saw his other "Kai" be MURDERED by Pure Boo. I think Kaioshin would be more scared of Pure Boo than Birsu and Omega Shenron.. Wher...

Super Buu into Buff Buu= HOLY SHIT OMG HE'S GETTING EVEN STRONGER??! Buff Buu into Kid Buu = HAHA SCRUB LOL WE CAN TAKE HIM NOW Yea okay. Not really a worthwhile post, here. C'mon, folks. Actually it's worthwhile and basically sums up Super Boo and Buff Boo compared to Kid Boo. We got statements pr...

I also feel GT suffered from it's pacing, it never feels like a middle ground, some things happen too fast (build-up to Super 17), others take too long (Goku vs 1-star Dragon), I mean, you have a whole arc that takes up 8 episodes, but then you have fights that take up (ironically) 8 episodes. The ...

You do know that none of these ambiguous statements you keep trying to bring up actually contradict the blunt and forward statement that Pure Buu is weaker than Super Buu, no matter what kind of insane and fallacious reasoning you try to use to twist it? Much like the manga, actually. You mean like...

I'll go ahead and throw this comment in too Refers to Gohan as having “fantastic power surpassing even Super Saiyan 3” following the Elder Kaioshin’s power-up. From (I think) DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02, an anime guidebook. I know you'll just say "It's referring to Gotenks", bu...

Overrated how? He was just an asskicking in a body - Just because he didn't transform and do something Goofy doesn't make him a bad villain.
Again, I liked him - he's exactly the scariest type of villain. Big, imposing and unreasonable.

He was the strongest...out of everyone still fighting. Everyone else is out of commission, except for Vegeta. And again, he reverted to his South Kaioshin Buu form, which I'm hoping your not denying exists now, since we have provided an official source saying that he did. The same source says that ...

Actually, it specifically says GohanBuu - not any other one. If we are supposed to believe he's no match for even superbuu, how is this a revelation? It's not a revelation, it's just an obvious statement. The guidebooks are full of them. He was no match for Buutenks either. And if it's talking spec...

I can ask the same - Kaioshinn outright says that the absorbing the Kai's weakened him - so who is right here? No, he says absorbing Dai Kaioshin weakened him. Absorbing South Kaioshin made him become "that huge Buu." Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7 Kaioshin: “In m…my era there were five K...

LOL, and that think further supports what I orginally stated "Says Gohan-absorbed Boo is so powerful that on his own Goku is no match even as a Super Saiyan 3. From DBZ Son Goku Densetsu." "Refers to Super Saiyan 3 as “the Super Saiyan that can appropriately be called strongest”. From...