Kanzenshuu

This is ridiculous, is there no possible way for us to contact toriyama's people and attempt to have this question answered? that'd be cool if we came up with something like "the top 5 dbz questions", that kanzenshuu community would like answered the most and he actually responded.

This is what I believe: Cell Games Saga SSJ2 Gohan (full power) Super Perfect Cell SSJ2 Gohan (not full power, which is the one that beam struggled against SPC) 7 years later Babidi Saga Majin Dabura = SSJ2 Adult Gohan (full power) Majin Dabura is a weaker fighter than SSJ2 Adult Gohan, but has magi...

I don't think there is a way to confidently say how much weaker Piccolo was than the Super Saiyans, that's largely opinion since there are no solid numbers from Toriyama. I have a theory though that Android 20 is the biggest liar in the whole DB series. Do you think it would have made a difference ...

To the OP, this is my ranking for the beginning of the Android Saga. Goku Vegeta Trunks Piccolo Gohan Krillin Yamcha I didn't put Tien here because you said to exclude him. I don't like the idea of Vegeta surpassing Goku because of what trunks says here: Chapter: 365 (DBZ 171), P9.2-4 Trunks: “I’m g...

SSJ 3 Goku with the halo when he fought against Majin Buu - too awesome.

This is what I think, in descending order (highest to lowest): SS2 Goku = SS2 Majin Vegeta SS2 Vegeta (before Majin) SS2 Cell Games Gohan Majin Dabura = SS2 adult Gohan SS Goku = SS Vegeta (after Majin) SS Vegeta (before Majin) SS adult Gohan That's a good inquiry, I'd like to think that Vegeta was ...

On top of other things, Dabura flat out states in the anime that he has a higher kiri rating than Goku (not even 4000 kiri could defeat me) and his sentiment is similar in the manga; he's stronger than SSJ Goku against Yakon, so unless SSJ Gohan is stronger than SSJ Goku (lmao no), then he'd have t...

It took Gohan, Krillin, and Bulma 37 days to get to Namek and Gohan's hair looked the exact same as when he was on Earth. If his hair grew at all from when he trained Goten to the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament then it's negligible. There is a distinct physical difference between Gohan in SSJ 1...

The thing is that between that training period and the next time we saw Gohan transform (to either SSJ1 or SSJ2) , there was about a month of in-universe time and likely several times as much out-of-universe time, after which Gohan looks the same regardless of what form he's in. Evidently Gohan's h...

Their was a thread like this on DBZF not too long ago. It's pretty clear that Gohan was only an SSJ2 at the Budokai (M10 as well if you include non-canon material). Ths is clearly shown because Gohan only had the sparks at the Budokai and not anywhere else in the Saga. Toriyama wouldn't point blank...

Their was a thread like this on DBZF not too long ago. It's pretty clear that Gohan was only an SSJ2 at the Budokai (M10 as well if you include non-canon material). Ths is clearly shown because Gohan only had the sparks at the Budokai and not anywhere else in the Saga. Toriyama wouldn't point blank...

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:

mAcChaos wrote:That can be weaker.

I don't believe that Gohan got weaker.

I believe Gohan got weaker because Vegeta said he was stronger as a brat (or kid rather).

To the OP:

I looked through the manga a bit more and found something that you may or may not have seen before. Before the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament Gohan trained Goten a bit:
you could compare this against his SSJ 2 form.

They're two different people. One has the username Kaboom and the other is DbzGtKoSD. Also rush attacks or flying aura does overtake the regular aura. Even if that's a rare error(which I think not) it happen in one panel. The entire time Gohan had zero sparks in thr manga. You're right, my mistake....

Yeah, this thread again, because I'm freaking confused. But this time, I would like to ask everyone to only go by the original manga, and ignore everything else (colored manga, Daizenshuu, etc). So, some believe that Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 only against Kibito, while others believe that he was a...

That's the anime though. Does the manga make the same mistake? Yes, it does. To answer your question regarding "SSJ 2 Believers", there are animations errors where sparks are omitted, I want you to look back at the anime and look SPECIFICALLY when Gohan goes SSJ 2 in front of Kibito. Ever...

Yeah, this thread again, because I'm freaking confused. But this time, I would like to ask everyone to only go by the original manga, and ignore everything else (colored manga, Daizenshuu, etc). So, some believe that Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 only against Kibito, while others believe that he was a...

Goku is naturally a better fighter than Vegeta, so I think Vegeta would have lost.

Goku could have turned SSJ3 also.

Napa says his power was 981. Was it his suppressed power or full power? If it was his suppressed power so what is his full power? When Nappa reads off the power levels of Gohan, Piccolo and Krillin they're all suppressing. As for his 2,800 reading - people argue whether it's his Masenko or power le...

Regarding movie 8, I guess maybe their bodies were wrecked and too sore to move, but they still had loads of ki. I agree with this. When they donate ki it adds onto Goku's base form, then with the SSJ multiplier he's able to overpower Broli. Without Vegeta's ki, Goku would not have won - this is th...